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Flying plane[edit]

Flying plane

The original submission.[edit]

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Comments and discussion[edit]

  • The scope of this logo is air travel only. IMHO, this is a bit too narrow.---<(kmk)>- (talk) 15:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
    It is a metaphor. Is the second logo about air balloon travel only? Nicolas1981 (talk) 01:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • A better small version is needed. There has been discussion about creating small buttons & banners for external websites to link to Wikivoyage (see voy:Wikivoyage talk:Tourism Bureau Expedition). Perhaps just the plane flying around a "W". The scope of the logo is limited, but it is still a very nice logo and air travel is so closely associated with travel in general that it shouldn't be too big of an issue. AHeneen (talk) 17:23, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
    What is the smallest size at which we can reasonably expect the logo to be used? 16px seems smaller than any icon use I've seen. 32px looks closest to how WMF icons are displayed in browser tabs, which the smallest use I'm familiar with. Also, at such small resolutions, I believe the convention is to omit the text. --Peter Talk 18:21, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    A Favicon is a file containing one or more small icons, most commonly 16×16 pixels, and yes, usually, text is omitted in such small resolutions. -- Rillke (talk) 19:45, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    I think the small version would work better if we took out the word "Wikivoyage" (in the small version only - keep it in the larger versions). It's unreadable at that size and taking it out would allow more room for the plane. PerryPlanet (talk) 21:38, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This, rotated by 90 degrees, may make a good miniature icon. PrinceGloria (talk) 05:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Airplanes are often relatet to environmental pollution. That's why i dislike this logo. --Nicor (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Hmmm, not sure about this one. The logo reminds me of a fish or some sort of salamander, rather than a plane. — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:10, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I like this one but the tail is a bit too wide or the plane too small imo. --Lofor (talk) 18:01, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This is definitely my favorite of the three options. It's sleek, it looks modern, and it most clearly conveys the idea of "travel" of any of the three. Aside from the aforementioned suggestions regarding the small version, I wouldn't change a thing. PerryPlanet (talk) 23:27, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

The logo will look better with transparment backcolor, and that at the 32px and the 16px versions will be without the "wikivoyage". בנימין (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

All submissions should probably choose the same background type (white or transparent) for the final vote. I'll ask about that. --Peter Talk 17:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

I believe two modifications are needed before the final vote, both of them just for the 32px and 16px versions:

  1. Remove text
  2. Make the icon "fatter"

Globe-trotter, are you working on these modifications? --Peter Talk 17:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

  • Big logo it's done and nice. I don't like the small icons (but I've seen that you have improve it below) --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:10, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Weight of text is too light. Not clear to read. This, that and the other (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Translation[edit]

I flipped and translated it to Persian to show how it will look on a RTL language --ebraminiotalk 15:31, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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  • Other languages? --Danapit (talk) 06:19, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Chinese (simpl. and trad.) version follows. And why not add a slogan to the bottom of the pics? Super Wang (talk) 07:21, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Transparent flying plane and favicon wo wordmark[edit]

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as per discussion above; favicon still needs more love, I think Rillke (talk) 22:31, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Without the tail-swoop, the favicon resembles Twitter's logo a bit too much, I'm afraid. LtPowers (talk) 23:08, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I think the tail swoop is still workable into the design of the 16px option, and would like to see it. --Peter Talk 05:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • When reduced sufficiently, all icons look the same:-/ At least this is identifiable on the browser tab. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I don't like the 16px. The rest is nice as always. --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for Transparent flying plane and favicon wo wordmark[edit]

  • Support Support [✖ withdrawn] as the proposer Rillke (talk) 22:32, 14 August 2013 (UTC)


Transparent flying plane and favicon wo wordmark II[edit]

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as per discussion above; favicon contorted, with contrails Rillke (talk) 14:39, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • If it's impossible to have on the 16px version the same shape of the others I'm fine with that, otherwise I'll suggest you to try a much more similar design. --Andyrom75 (talk) 15:14, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Changing the shape of the contrail is fine, but I don't think the plane itself should be squashed and stretched. Let me see what I can do. LtPowers (talk) 15:25, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Agreed with LtPowers, and looking forward to seeing what you come up with. This is almost it, though. --Peter Talk 22:01, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for Transparent flying plane and favicon wo wordmark II[edit]

  • Support Support as the proposer Rillke (talk) 14:40, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Currently this is the best Flying plane version Andyrom75 (talk) 15:16, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support sees great. בנימין (talk) 07:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support I think this has the best favicon solution. --Peter Talk 08:27, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support The least worst option of the least worst of the dreadful 3 finalists.--W. Franke-mailtalk 15:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support this though travel is not restricted to airplanes.Super Wang (talk) 06:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support 2q1w2007 (talk) 13:43, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Daniel749 talk 21:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wolf Lambert (talk) 19:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Alan (talk) 19:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

No wordmark, contrailed favicon[edit]

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I think the favicon needs something more... here's an attempt. LtPowers (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC) LtPowers (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Is there a vector version of this logo? Because the PNG is really hard to work with. LtPowers (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The small version here looks a little too much like a guy about to do a belly flop for me. PerryPlanet (talk) 21:55, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
    You're not wrong, unfortunately. The problem is that the curve of the contrail matches the curve of the plane's ventral surface, which means if I change one I have to change the other. I'm not sure what else to try. LtPowers (talk) 23:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I prefer the previous one. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:00, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for No wordmark, contrailed favicon[edit]


Fantasy Balloon logo3[edit]

Fantasy Balloon logo3

The original submission.[edit]

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Comments and discussion[edit]

  • I really don't like the font, particularly the "W" · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The basket looks a bit too narrow · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Not only too narrow.. I think the style could be changed to fit with the balloon a lot more. Balloon looks 3D, basket looks 2D; balloon has gradients, basket is solid; balloon is abstract and tapers, basket is a simple shape. Having said that I'm really happy this made it to the final round, it's an exciting design and with a few tweaks (definitely the font too), I think it would be an excellent logo for Wikivoyage. --tiimta (hello) 10:49, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Why we cann't save Lenka font for this logo? May be use alternative color scheme, change basket, minimum rotate it ccw? Digr (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I only recognized the shape as a hot air balloon after I read the comments above. It looked like a big bud to me.---<(kmk)>- (talk) 15:07, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Rather a cool logo, but yes, the font needs adjustment. -mattbuck (Talk) 18:42, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • It absolutely needs different colours. The current scheme makes me think of off pickles. PrinceGloria (talk) 05:47, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • A pickled caper? --Danapit (talk) 08:10, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Too much of similar colors, IMHO. Could you please made a version in standart Wikimedia colors? Ain92 (talk) 10:17, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Wikimedia colors shouldn't be used in of these logos. Wikivoyage is a standalone content project like Wikipedia, not a meta project like Commons, Wikidata or Meta-Wiki. Also, it has a long history (since 2006) outside the WMF. Globe-trotter (talk) 14:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
      • I agree strongly with Globe-trotter that aping meta WMF projects is not something we should aim for. We should aim for originality and individual personality in the color scheme, which I feel this logo has. --Peter Talk 18:37, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
          • Not to mention that WMF's color scheme is absolutely unsuitable for any logo. (At least not if you're not seriously working on the tones of the green and the red.)--Toter Alter Mann (talk) 08:41, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
        • No project ever will ape this colour scheme for sure, except for WikiComposting perhaps, but it is still bad. Needs other colour options. PrinceGloria (talk) 06:35, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This is the only one that works as a logo, the other two options are heavily text reliant Oxyman (talk) 11:56, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Best of the three, it's not childish--Seonookim (talk) 05:46, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • It's the best one. Not all the travels are in plane, but the ballon is like a metaphor of travel. It's classic and brilliant.--CarlosVdeHabsburgo (talk) 03:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

basket, pitch, font[edit]

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Excluded by the WMF legal team. " The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes."

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Made basket not look like a parachute bomb, pitched (rotated) ballon a bit more, changed font, separated "wiki" and "voyage" for readability. I am sure many other variations can be better. Sorry I don't know how to remove the text for small sizes. Also, characters must be kerned better. Nicolas1981 (talk) 01:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • I cropped the viewBox. Hope you don't mind. -- Rillke (talk) 07:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Nicolas1981 (talk) 09:23, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Better. -mattbuck (Talk) 07:25, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The basket is definitely better, the font is more readable, and I can't notice the rotation. Ain92 (talk) 10:19, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The font is very slick and minimalist, it doesn't really fit with the playfulness of the logo. The basket is an improvement. Globe-trotter (talk) 13:39, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I like this logo the best. — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I agree with Globe-trotter that this font less fits the playfulness of the icon (which I love). I'm not sure why people object to the former font, perhaps they could clarify specifically why, and hopefully offer alternative suggestions? --Peter Talk 18:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
Basket with gradient, Lenka Stabilo font in greens
  • Here's a version with a gradient for the basket (to make it look a bit more 3D per concerns above) and with the old Lenka Stabilo font in shades of green for a comparison (also per a suggestion above). I very, very slightly rounded the corners of the basket also. I prefer the basket in this version slightly over the above, but I don't think the Lenka font works as well as the original font above. --Peter Talk 18:53, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • I love your version with Lenka Stabilo font in greens! Looks like the balloon is travelling above Brazil forests :-) My font was not playful enough indeed. Nicolas1981 (talk) 03:09, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Yea I love this too. Maybe there is still a better font out there, but this basket is great and I like the use of green in the font. --tiimta (hello) 11:49, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Another comment: The wider basket looks much better at small sizes, but I think it's a little too wide when larger, as in the sidebar version. I presume we could use a slightly different version for these different purposes, right? --Peter Talk 18:54, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Peter that large basket look bad in larger versions. Make it small for larger versions. Basket design can be tweaked from |_| to \_/ to see how it looks. ( i dont find better way to explain this :)) Try with different fonts also. -Nizil Shah (talk) 19:15, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Nizil Shah, using an isosceles trapezoid is one of those very simple, should-have-been obvious ideas that really improves the look. I think it looks best at every size. I use it in the following two examples, which show alternate color schemes, and alternate fonts. The fonts are in order clockwise from top left: Trajan Pro Bold, Lerotica, Lenka Stabilo, Linear Regular. I think the original color scheme is still the best--it's bold and eye-catching, classy, and suggests Brazil forests per Nicolas1981 ;) I don't have a very strong opinion about the fonts, but I think I like Trajan Pro Bold the best. The icon is already so whimsical that I think the more staid font works, while Lenka seems a bit overkill. Lenka was necessary to liven up our old, incredibly dull logo. --Peter Talk 21:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This is great. I agree with Peter about the color scheme, and the original font is crisp and appealing. — Scott talk 19:47, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
If this logo ultimately passes, which I am most afraid it might, it certainly should not be used combined with a cartoonish font, as Peter said. We could use something along the lines of Gill Sans with it - very legible and to-the-point, but not serifed or overly artsy.
The new colour propositions are going somewhere, but I'd ditch the central green stripe altogether as well, and try something in the typical base colours used for balloons, which is blue, red and yellow. Of the greens used, we could perhaps do with the pastel green on the left of the original proposal, the other two are (right one) "composting green" and (middle one) "forest green", neither of which suit a balloon well. PrinceGloria (talk) 04:55, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Hey, who snuck aboard our balloon?
I for one think the font should be playful too. I love the Lenka Stabilo one for this reason.
Unrelated comment from a friend: Maybe could you put an earth or a suitcase instead of the gondola (basket)? Nicolas1981 (talk) 05:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Ask and you shall receive. Below are color schemes in blue, red, and yellow per PrinceGloria. I still think the logo author's original color scheme is the best, though--I haven't been able to equal it. It's sharp and classy. De gustibus non est disputandum, but, ah, I think I'm going to have to dispute your gustibus. To the right is the version with suitcase, which has a nice enough aesthetic, but I think it's just too surrealist once you realize what you're looking at. --Peter Talk 07:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much Peter! I believe, to quote Beth Ditto, that we are indeed moving in the right direction. Let us not dispute tastes, they are subjective. Objectively, however, the versions with different colours are simply better and don't look like cabbage :D I guess the RBY combo might look a bit too sombre in those shades, I was wondering if perhaps combining the violet and light blue from one of your earlier versions with a third balancing hue (also a pastel one if you find a fitting one) might just hit the sweet spot.
I personally like the suitcase idea. It doesn't change much in lower resolutions and adds a nice touch in the high-res versions, as well as at least brings us closer to the idea of travel. PrinceGloria (talk) 19:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
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I tried a bunch of different pastels for the central band (and desaturated & lightened the colors of the others just a tad), and the bgv variant to the right is definitely the best I came up with. But I still prefer the original at each size, and especially at 16px. --Peter Talk 20:26, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Yellow might not be very printable/visible? Nicolas1981 (talk) 01:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

There was a suggestion in the poll below that brighter colors might work better. The versions on the right below are higher saturation (with Lenka font), while the ones on the left (with Deja Vu Sans) are in the original color schemes. I actually do prefer the higher saturation versions, particularly for the one in greens. --Peter Talk 22:33, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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Translation[edit]

I just translated it to Persian to show how it will look on a RTL language. --ebraminiotalk 15:00, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

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Per suggestions below, here is a variant using Deja Vu Sans, with Greek, Russian, and English. --Peter Talk 22:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
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Try these in Chinese--I think we don't need to put different colors on the logo. --Super Wang (talk) 12:33, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for basket, pitch, font[edit]


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DejaVu Sans[edit]

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & DejaVu Sans font. DejaVu Sans has the big advantage of translatability, with support for most alphabets. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Text should be left out when too small to be legible. This will allow the recognizable part of the logo to be bigger for the same overall image size, so is a two-way gain. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:36, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Indeed, fixing this now. --Peter Talk 06:46, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for DejaVu Sans[edit]

  • Support Support My second choice after Lenko. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Of the balloon variants, this one is my favorite. PerryPlanet (talk) 07:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Rillke (talk) 07:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support I don't like the cartoonish font, and this is more translatable than Linear Regular. Can you try GillSans? Ain92 (talk) 07:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support GMM (talk) 07:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Johan Jönsson (talk) 18:34, 18 August 2013 (UTC) The basket shape change is great, also great to have it in non-text colour so it doesn´t look like an accent.

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Lenka Stabilo[edit]

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Lenka Stabilo font. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Could you please make some non-Latin versions? Ain92 (talk) 10:08, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Unfortunately, Lenka only supports Latin characters. It's based on the author's handwriting, which makes it difficult to apply to multiple alphabets. I'm not someone who knows a ton about typeface design, but I could certainly recommend alternative fonts for non-Latin alphabets. Cyrillic, for example, I think looks pretty nice with Trebuchet MS (although something a little more bold might harmonize better with Lenka). --Peter Talk 16:49, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Manual kerning can be done easily enough at any stage. Just get some specification on what needs to be adjusted. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 11:39, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Just for consideration (and we're definitely running out of time), here is a variant with the teal-ish scheme LtPowers used on AleXXw's proposal. It also shows a slightly kerned version of the Lenka (to reduce the space between o and y). --Peter Talk 17:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
      • I like the cyan/blue version with Lenka font. Can you submit this? -- Rillke (talk) 17:13, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
        • Thank you! -- Rillke (talk) 21:49, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Not part of this proposal, just an idea

Votes for Lenka Stabilo[edit]

  • Support Support My first choice. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:32, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support I'm going to be bold and choose this one too. The gang of Peters... --Peter Talk 06:48, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Looks great! --Andreschulz (talk) 07:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Adventure! Wildness! Kerning might need to be touched a bit, to reduce spacing between "o" and "y". Nicolas1981 (talk) 09:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
    • In the blues version to the right, I made the kerning adjustment you suggested. Does it look better? If people say yeah right now, I'll adjust the variant submission. Otherwise we might have to save such adjustments for after the logo voting ends, if this is the ultimately chosen option. --Peter Talk 17:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support I like the playful style. JuliasTravels (talk) 10:17, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tuvalkin (talk) 11:39, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Manuspanicker (talk) 18:45, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Cloud668 (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support SupportΛΧΣ21 04:25, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support. Note: the 32 and 16 px favicons need to be cleaned up--in the favicon versions the light green of the right side of the balloon may need darkening and the favicon's basket may need to be slightly bigger. The balloon with Lenka wordmark says, "Voyager, come write on me," with style! Well done. Rogerhc (talk) 21:47, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
    • That's a good point, and I've made both changes. It's a little awkward to make changes after people have already voted... but I think they're slight enough where no one will care much. I made the same color change to the larger versions (not the basket sizing change). --Peter Talk 17:57, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Atsirlin (talk) 05:16, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Moroboshi (talk) 09:17, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Oxyman (talk) 10:50, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Adehertogh (talk) 19:10, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support This is my favorite submission. The font complements the fun of the balloon and the colors represent the earth. Nick1372 (talk) 20:21, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Daniel749 talk 21:38, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support This or the blue version, definitely. I'm firmly in the camp that using Lenka does not make the logo look childish; in fact, continued use of the font emphasizes the fact that Wikivoyage is, first and foremost, a fun site to be at. --Sky Harbor (talk) 12:33, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support, I’m not fond of the « k » in Lenka but that doesn’t matter : for me, this font suits the best the project. Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 12:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Linear Regular[edit]

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Excluded by the WMF legal team, who say that, "The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes." See talk.

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Linear Regular font. Peter Talk 06:10, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

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Votes for Linear Regular[edit]


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Lenka Stabilo in blue[edit]

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Excluded by the WMF legal team, who say that, "The new shape of the basket makes the design less distinguishable for trademark registration purposes. Likewise, we need to avoid the color blue on this design." See talk.

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Using Nicolas1981's pitch, my isosceles trapezoidal basket, & Lenka Stabilo font, all using alternate blue theme. Peter Talk 20:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

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Votes for Lenka Stabilo in blue[edit]

  • Support Support An option. A good option. Rillke (talk) 21:48, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support. Digr (talk) 06:02, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support, because small icons look better as far as the rightmost part is darker (b&w version looks better too), but we should provide a font for non-Latin scripts. Ain92 (talk) 17:55, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support the best of all Balloon variants. --Danapit (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support SupportΛΧΣ21 00:20, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support SupportInkey (talk) 00:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 14:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wolf Lambert (talk) 19:13, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw[edit]

WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw
(Please note that this logo does need some minor modifications to avoid legal issues. These have been communicated directly to AleXXw.)

The original submission.[edit]

Submission text and other options

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(Please note that this logo does need some minor modifications to avoid legal issues. These have been communicated directly to AleXXw.)
(Please note that this logo does need some minor modifications to avoid legal issues. These have been communicated directly to AleXXw.)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • I think we all need to know what the problem is. If it is the font or the colour scheme, no big deal, but tell us already. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:37, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
    • The arrows can't be concave quadrilaterals (per link above). This is a major element of the current design - the concavity leads your eye from one arrow to the next and brings it all together. Plus most arrow heads are that shape, so diverging from that shape is diverging from an easily recognisable arrow. --tiimta (hello) 10:03, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • May be use solid more narrow triangle with special erased form at basic side? Example, red arrow at WV logo v23a.png. Digr (talk) 12:40, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I like how this logo works without text in the tiny version.---<(kmk)>- (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I like it, nice and simple, but maybe try with two-tone arrows to make it look 3D? -mattbuck (Talk) 18:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I really like this logo, especially how it scales to smaller sizes, and retains integrity even without text. I think if you just change the concave angle to an arc - making it like a circle has been inscribed on the insides of all the triangles, that you would have a similar logo (especially at small size), but it's distinctly not a concave quadrilateral. Vanisaac (talk) 00:17, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Is perfect. And I agree Vanisaac. The small one without the text is nice too. --DerFussi 10:09, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Because it is obviously overlooked, I post the language variants here again. -- Rillke (talk) 13:38, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    The Russian version is most probably wrong: First, its font is too much weighted (not bold here but really black). Second, the term chosed which reads viki gid is not translating "voyage" or "trip", but the term "guide" (i.e. the tourism book) If would have used one of the following terms after the transliteration of "viki" :
    • путешествие (voyage, tourisme)
    • дорога (route, voie, chemin, voyage)
    • поездка (promenade, course, tournée, voyage, tour, chemin)
    • плавание (navigation, voyage, sailing, swim)
    • странствие (voyage, pèlerinage)
    • езда (course, balade, circulation, trafic, voyage)
    • путь (voie, route, ligne, chemin, trajet, voyage)
    For simplicity of the composition, the first one is probably too long, the second term is probably the best (дорога, doroga), but I like also поездка (poezdka) which is not just about the road followed but related for to the (virtual) visit, to speak about the points of interests and things to know when traveling. I would avoid the term странствие which is too much related to religion. The two final terms are probably too short or too narrow/technical in meaning. I also like the term плавание (plavanye).
    Is there a vote for translating the term "Wikivoyage" in Russian? to submit one of: вики-дорога (read viki-doroga), вики-поездка (read viki-poezdka), вики-плавание (read viki-plavanye) ? verdy_p (talk) 14:10, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • My bet is that the Russian Wikivoyage Community will have to hold that (s)election. -- Rillke (talk) 15:57, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • The vote already finished 9 months ago. Ain92 (talk) 07:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • very good Logo for a not existing sister project "WikiMaps". But nut for "WikiVoyage". Marcus Cyron (talk) 17:06, 13 August 2013 (UTC)\
  • I am very disappointed that this logo must be modified, and I don't like any of the proposed modifications. Had I known that the logo I was voting for would not be allowed, I would have voted for other proposals. In the end, I will vote for any of the modifications of this logo, because I think they are better than the other finalists; however, I don't think they are as good as the logos that had been my 2nd and 3rd choices, after your original, unmodified logo. I feel cheated and greatly regret that it doesn't seem to have been possible for management to know about the copyright issue before the first round of voting. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:48, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • To some extent I agree with Ikan Kekek, that I would have voted differently If the legal issues were known before the vote. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 08:54, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

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Outlines without the concave could be one option? tiimta (hello) 10:57, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Arrows and logo not writing. Digr (talk) 12:34, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
  • We need some examples wit non-latin alphabets, in this logo the title is almost too much "part of the scheme". - εΔω 06:12, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Pity the original proposal has to be changed! The lines are a bit too thin now making the logo look weak and transparent. --Danapit (talk) 08:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Nope, this isn't working for me. I prefer the hot-air balloon logo. The arrows in this logo are too thin, and somehow I don't get the idea of travel from it. Also, there was a comment in the discussion relating to the hot-air balloon logo suggesting that the WikiVoyage logo shouldn't use the same colour scheme as Wikimedia projects as it's a standalone project like Wikipedia. — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:18, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • What about other color scheme? --Danapit (talk) 14:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I have a strong hunch I know what the legal issue was... but this is a real pity. I don't think this stripped down version works. The original arrows suggested compass points, while this one doesn't seem to me to have a relation to travel. This emaciated version lacks the dynamism of the original, and doesn't work at all when small. Could it be resurrected in some other form? --Peter Talk 18:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • No hunches required - the logo cannot use concave quadrilaterals for arrows. --tiimta (hello) 11:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Gotta agree with Peter on this new version. The original made me think of a compass, but this new one makes me think of a star or something, and is way too faint as a browser icon. PerryPlanet (talk) 21:32, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The small icon is barely reconizable as a logo. ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 00:58, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Is this a comment or a vote? -- Rillke (talk) 08:02, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Both versions are very fine logos (I even rated them higher then two other candidates), but they consist mostly of text, and are optimised for English text "wikivoyage". This'is why I'm quite against it, because for Russian "викигид" almost all the composition will be destroyed. Ain92 (talk)
  • Support Support I support the 2-shade version of this edit as the least bad of all the variants. I still feel like they are all greatly inferior to the proposal I voted for. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Rather dull colours, but plain arrows better than two-toned. Empty arrows not good at all. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 08:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw Arrow Outline.svg[edit]

New Variant: Arc instead of concave angle (Instead: #New Variant 4: concave rounded triangles)[edit]

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I have changed the arrows according to Vanisaac's proposal (at least what I understood she/he had in mind). If this logo is accepted or developed further at some stage, it needs to be reviewed by a graphics person, I don't know if I edited it correctly. This is just to have an idea what it would look like. --Danapit (talk) 07:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • In case this variant is legally acceptable, I like it most. --Danapit (talk) 10:53, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, much better, I didn't think of using an arc. Can we run this by legal? It's not a quadrilateral but it's still a concave arrow.. --tiimta (hello) 11:42, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Excluding the original one ...that I still do not see the issue... it's my favourite alternative, and still my first choice in case of voting. --Andyrom75 (talk) 22:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • i like this derivate most. maybe this one could have "shadows" (like the one above this in blue)? --Wetterwolke (talk) 11:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Best alternative for arrow shape. Would prefer different colours, and not sure how text for other languages would work. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 08:47, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support A favor It's a best alternative for this logo. --Jorge Abellán (talk) 19:09, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

New Variant 1: Triangles[edit]

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New Variant with just triangles as Arrows AleXXw (talk) 10:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • Sorry for my late response, I was in Hong Kong just without my PC. I like this version best. --AleXXw (talk) 10:40, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Sorry AleXXw, I'm not a fan of any of these variations. The text and the triangles no longer seem to be part of the same logo, they clash with one another. I think the arc option is as close as we'll get to your original design. --tiimta (hello) 11:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
    • You're true, arcs where my first thougt too and I love them. But I'm not sure if it's OK for the legal dept... Best --AleXXw (talk) 12:51, 13 August 2013 (UTC) PS: do you mind if I slightly change them to fit them into the metrics?
    • Yes, please change them, I just wanted to see what they would look like, but I am not a graphics expert. I hope the arcs will be ok. Can we get some legal review before starting the elections? --Danapit (talk) 13:32, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Tiimta, I'm glad you identified the problem specifically. Unless the arrows are concave in some way, they push towards the text awkwardly. --Peter Talk 18:34, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for New Variant 1: Triangles[edit]

  • Support Support --Gce (talk) 22:19, 20 August 2013 (UTC)


New Variant 2: Deltoid[edit]

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New Variant with deltoids as Arrows AleXXw (talk) 10:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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Votes for New Variant 2: Deltoid[edit]



New Variant 3: Rounded Triangles[edit]

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New Variant with rounded triangles as Arrows AleXXw (talk) 10:38, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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Votes for New Variant 3: Rounded Triangles[edit]



New Variant: Arc instead of concave angle, shades of blue[edit]

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There were a few voices against using the Wikimedia colors color scheme. Danapit (talk) 12:26, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

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  • This version is using shades of blue from Wikiquote. I quite like it, although I mildly prefer the original colors. --Danapit (talk) 12:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
It's still using colours from a Wikimedia project, rather then using fresh colours Oxyman (talk) 21:05, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
If it wouldn't be stated here, I wouldn't have noticed that it is reusing these colours. -- Rillke (talk) 07:34, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I updated the logo file in blue shades with the metrics according to AleXXw's New Variant 4: concave rounded triangles (so that the two versions only differ in colors now), but in the thumbnail it appears distorted, no idea why. --Danapit (talk) 09:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Fixed. --Danapit (talk) 11:36, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for New Variant: Arc instead of concave angle, shades of blue[edit]

  • Support Support Rillke (talk) 07:41, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Looks really smart, even if the text is a tad too large relative to the symbol (could use one font size down, especially given that almost all other language versions will have a longer name than "Wikivoyage"). PrinceGloria (talk) 22:25, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Danapit (talk) 06:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --AleXXw (talk) 12:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support All of the 3 finalists are visually dreadful - particularly as small icons. This is probably the least awful of this particular variant. --W. Franke-mailtalk 15:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Decent colors; would prefer a bit more variety, though. LtPowers (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support these colors. I don't want the "meta" (red green blue) colors. So I'd like to see alternative colors like this and #Concave rounded triangles: Turquoise, green, blue. Rogerhc (talk) 06:11, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support AHeneen (talk) 13:32, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Beautiful! Simple! Memorable! All blue is best. Blue Rasberry (talk) 15:01, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • --MF-W 20:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

New Variant 4: concave rounded triangles[edit]

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Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg
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Wikivoyage-Logo-v3-icon.svg
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New Variant with concave rounded triangles as Arrows using the Idea of Danapit, design drawings will follow. AleXXw (talk) 17:48, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

metrics, construction & colours
  • For Those who are interested: I uploaded a file describing the metrics, construction & colours of the logo proposal. Best --AleXXw (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Of the new variants, I like this one the best, but I think that's because it's so similar to the initial submission. My concern would be that this is not enough of a change to pass the legal review. Although I'm obviously not qualified to make that judgement ;) --Peter Talk 18:30, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
  • This is my favourite logo and it's variant and hope it would pass the legal review. It was said that "... the three arrow elements ... cannot be shaped as concave quadrilaterals, but they can be triangles, quadrilaterals that are not concave, or other shapes." IMO this design would fulfill it, but ... --Danapit (talk) 06:17, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I hope this passes legal, I think it's an excellent execution of the best general design. Vanisaac (talk) 06:33, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Just got the OK by the legal-team for the arc-versions, see this edit. Best --AleXXw (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I like this idea best, but I think it would look better if the concave triangles all shared the same radius. If you try to draw a circle by connecting the triangles, it looks a bit wonky. —Fredddie
    • indeed they all have the same radius, 2 units, wich is the same length than the hight of the arrow. Best --AleXXw (talk) 12:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
      • I think Freddie means that the radii of the concavities should imply a common center point for all three arrows. That is, the negative space should look like a circle. LtPowers (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
        • OK, missunderstood that. The problem with that solution is that there are two different variants in wich the arrows are different far away... Now the negative space is a reuleaux triangle, at least another curve of constant width ;) --AleXXw (talk) 17:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • That's great news, that the logo is legally ok, thank you Maggie. --Danapit (talk) 06:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • My preferred option on this logo , but would like brighter shades if staying with RGB. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:04, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The RGB has got to go. Any other color scheme, please. LtPowers (talk) 15:31, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
    • You're welcome to propose the colours you prefer, I'd love to see different variants. But I personal think that colour-scheme represents perfectly wikivoyage's home within their new family. --AleXXw (talk) 17:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
      • I'm sympathetic to LtPowers' point, but the rgb theme suits this icon pretty well, and I haven't come up with anything better. All ears for suggestions, though. --Peter Talk 22:40, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
        Shades of blue, or blue/violet/magenta, or teal/green/blue would be good options. LtPowers (talk) 00:43, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I'd like to see a variant where the arcs create a perfect circle. //Shell 19:21, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for New Variant 4: concave rounded triangles[edit]

  • Support Support Rillke (talk) 07:40, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ana al'ain (talk) 19:56, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Glad to hear this has been approved by Legal! Peter Talk 21:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Daniel749 talk 22:19, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Danapit (talk) 06:11, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Amga (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --AleXXw (talk) 12:08, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support More than glad to read this great news! --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:53, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support PerryPlanet (talk) 07:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yep - really like this one! -- Chuq (talk) 10:40, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 12:28, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support MB-one (talk) 22:13, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --TheMillionRabbit 20:05, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Atsirlin (talk) 05:19, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support -- DerFussi 07:42, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --NatiSythen (talk) 07:51, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support GMM (talk) 07:52, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support g (talk) 17:32, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --β16 - (talk) 07:36, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --80.152.156.56 10:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Avenue (talk) 11:46, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support AHeneen (talk) 13:28, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wolf Lambert (talk) 19:10, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • --MF-W 20:15, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Yair rand (talk) 06:26, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Abyssal (talk) 16:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Other font styles[edit]

You know already that I'm doing everything to not let Gill Sans be used in a logo. I like this and #Concave rounded triangles: Turquoise, green, blue the most, but as I'm a hobby designer and typographer, I hate Gill Sans. So here are some more fonts:

Comments[edit]

  • Of the options above I like Open Sans best. I also like voyage being bold instead of wiki, but I would prefer voyage in dark gray, instead of black. What about the rest of the logo, is it based on file:WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Logo).svg? It is not mentioned in the file description. --Danapit (talk) 20:12, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
    • Yes, it's based on that. Open Sans is my ultimate favourite font, but I wasn't sure if it would fit good here. Further, I thought I had set the text in dark grey. Maybe it's very dark? Wolf Lambert (talk) 09:14, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
      • Yes, it's close to black on my screen. --Danapit (talk) 09:40, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
        • The original font is the one that I like most. But if I have to express an opinion on the above fonts I would go for linear, as it is, and for Open Sans, but with less contrast between the two words because both are equally important for this project. --Andyrom75 (talk) 10:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
Pacifico version
  • I am not even a hobby typographer (and I do like the Sans version), but I quite like this version, too. The text is a little too small. Would matching fonts be also available for languages using non-latin alphabet? --Danapit (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
    • I will make the text bigger, and look if there are characters for the non-latin alphabets. Wolf Lambert (talk) 16:34, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
      • There are no characters for other alphabets, unfortunately. Maybe use another font for the others? Wolf Lambert (talk) 16:37, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Sorry, but this font doesn't work fo me at all. I was actually (for a second) wondering what language this might be until I noticed that the presumed "K" in "Koyage" is in fact supposed to be a "V". --El Grafo (talk) 14:52, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I have uploaded a new version with bigger text and a small v in the voyage part. Wolf Lambert (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
    • I prefer the cleaner look of the original submission. The logo design is fairly tech-y, which looks a bit better with a more complementary font. The WIKI part looks just a little too Wikipedia-y, and the stroke following the v does look weird--I don't think that's how I'd write it in script. --Peter Talk 21:49, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • The Pacifico font is nice, but we need to see all the possible language versions, including non-Latin scripts, to make a judgement. At any rate, as a typographer, you surely know that Gill Sans ALWAYS WINS anyway :D PrinceGloria (talk) 22:21, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you Wolf, although I quite like your proposal, I prefer the version with Gill Sans. Also it is evident that the unusual font upsets readability, which is worrying in a logo. --Danapit (talk) 06:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I prefer the original font. Furthermore I agree with El Grafo: the initial "v" it's not so clear. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

What about these?[edit]

Either of these shapes and/or color schemes strike your fancy? LtPowers (talk) 01:08, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

  • LtPowers, sorry, I didn't see this. Yes, I do like the first color scheme (cool colors), although RGB would be my first option. I would prefer to keep the Variant 4 shape, though. --Danapit (talk) 08:22, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • About the second version I would just say: OMG! :-D --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:04, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
    Just experimenting with some different shapes. The latter would (presumably) let us keep the quadrilateral that we all liked. LtPowers (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Concave rounded triangles: Turquoise, green, blue[edit]

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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Icon) tgb.svg
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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Icon) tgb.svg
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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Icon) tgb.svg
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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Icon) tgb.svg
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WV-Logo Proposal AleXXw 3.0 var4 (Icon) tgb.svg
Colors are based on LtPowers's suggestion, shape after Variant 4 by AleXXw. Forest, sea and sky? --Danapit (talk) 08:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

Votes for Concave rounded triangles: Turquoise, green, blue[edit]

  • Support Support --Danapit (talk) 08:54, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nice to have an alternate color version, and I think this one works pretty well. --Peter Talk 21:33, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Works for me. LtPowers (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support these colors, especially the green. I don't want the "meta" (red green blue) colors. So I'd like to see alternative colors like these. Rogerhc (talk) 06:00, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support The main issue I had with this design was the RGB colors, and I like this a lot better. Not the best, but my favorite variant of this logo. 108.14.250.111 20:05, 18 August 2013 (UTC) Soory I forgot to log in. Nick1372 (talk) 20:07, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support AHeneen (talk) 13:25, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wolf Lambert (talk) 19:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Support Support The other two concave rounded triangle proposals (RGB and all blue) are fine, but this one is the best. Bothvar (talk) 19:41, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Why don't combine them all?[edit]

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I couldn't choose between the three so I made this (also including the original check). The font is Linear. Wolf Lambert (talk) 07:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Comments and discussion[edit]

  • :D --Danapit (talk) 07:07, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
    • :) Wolf Lambert (talk) 07:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
      •  :-))))) --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:57, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
        • Best one yet, you have to include the original tick to ensure backward compatibility ;) --AleXXw (talk) 17:12, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • It's kind a mess, but I like it. - Sarilho1 (talk) 23:24, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
  • Just fantastic! The crashing airplane is all we need, huh? :) Wizardist (talk) 07:54, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • ahahah AleXXw & Wolf Lambert are genius! :-D --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:08, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
  • None of three proposal really convinced me. But combining a few is a very good idea. But perhaps less logos makes a better logo. It looks a bit overcrowded. Perhaps just two logos
Airplane + balloon (+ original wikiVoyage logo)
balloon + compass (this 120° thing by AleXXw) (+ original wikiVoyage logo)
--Nobelium (talk) 20:41, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

NEVER. Far, far too dizzy.--Seonookim (talk) 06:20, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

  • This logo scares me. One quality logo is better than four crammed together --Bothvar (talk) 00:59, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
  • I might have taken this seriously if you hadn't incorporated that ugly old Wikivoyage logo in there. No thanks! Nick1372 (talk) 20:24, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
    • I agree. Bothvar (talk) 19:35, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
      • wikimedians...ok we can have some fun..--Nizil Shah (talk) 16:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Votes for Wikivoyage balloon and plane compass[edit]