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- Personal info: 27 months and some thousands actions before being a steward is still a challenging and interesting task (though it's pretty hard) to be accomplished in a great team. I must apologise for the dramatical increase of my average response (time because of my various duties) and how we (both stewards and the Foundation's team) weren't yet able to solve the issues of a certain wiki. I hope, anyway, them will be fixed within some weeks. Finally I'd like to thank the whole Community for the trust which has been given me since late 2011, I'd like also to spend some words to remember all those who passed away this year, Diamant above all.
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- Informazioni personali: 27 mesi e qualche migliaia di azioni dopo essere steward è ancora un'interessante sfida (abbastanza tosta) da compiere in un bel gruppo. Colgo l'occasione per scusarmi per la forte crescita del mio tempo medio di risposta e per come noi (steward e fondazione) non siamo stati ancora in grado di risolvere i problemi di una certa wiki che spero, però, saranno risolti entro qualche settimana. Vorrei ringraziare la comunità per la fiducia che mi viene accordata dalla fine del 2011, vorrei inoltre spendere qualche parola per ricordare tutti coloro che ci hanno lasciato quest'anno, in particolare Diamant.
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- Keep --Aplasia (talk) 18:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Good and quick responses. Natuur12 (talk) 18:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Érico Wouters msg 18:44, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep While we've had our differences at times, I very much value Vituzzu's expertise and dedication to the job. He is a great asset to the team. Snowolf How can I help? 18:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:46, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep agree with Snowolf. Although I have probably annoyed Vito in the past about specific things, his work as a steward has always been quite good in general. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep JurgenNL (talk) 18:59, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Rschen7754 19:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep MoiraMoira (talk) 19:09, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. LlamaAl (talk) 19:10, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Active and sensible. --MF-W 19:13, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Stryn (talk) 19:47, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Alan (talk) 20:04, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep — S t a r u s – ¡Dímelo! – 21:07, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep — TBloemink talk 20:58, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep ~~EBE123~~ talkContribs 21:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Sjoerd de Bruin (talk) 22:23, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment No more CU fishing, please. — Danny B. 22:25, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Would you mind providing some more background to other people? I don't think so many people will call "fishing" the ability to find out which admin on cs.wiktionary used a sockpuppet to defame another user ;) --Vituzzu (talk) 13:54, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep One of the most helpful stewards, especially with locking socks and spambots. INeverCry 22:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Southparkfan 23:11, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Kolega2357 (talk) 23:24, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep of course--DangSunM (talk) 23:36, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep--Hosiryuhosi (talk) 00:04, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Comment: Please warn before blocking, please don't block people indefinitely for truthful posts to their own talk pages, and please avoid involved blocks. Please don't threaten to globally lock people's accounts for "childish trolling" – that shows alarming ignorance of policy, and is incredibly worrisome coming from a steward. You have done some good things, and should focus more on that – please defend helpless users from the abuse of admins, instead of joining with the abusers. You know it makes sense. ~ DanielTom (talk) 00:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- In short: you are still using meta to insult people related to your incidents on other wikis, until you won't understand incivility is *never* acceptable you'll always be in a borderline situation. For the record, you "truthful post" was calling en.wiki's checkusers "cowardly anonymous psychopaths". I honestly find almost unbelievable someone can even doubt that was *so* uncivil. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- This is the second time in a matter of minutes that you deliberately misquote me. I wasn't referring to "en.wiki's checkusers" in that edit summary, I was referring to someone who has sent me death threats and who has had access to IPs (though he recently lost it), you just combined my words out of context. If you want to quote me properly, it's either "cowardly anonymous people", or "anonymous psychopaths". If your reaction after reading that (yes, truthful) post is, "hmm, I should really block DanielTom", there is something seriously wrong with you. ~ DanielTom (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- I don't believe you were referring to someone in particular but that won't change a thing. Anyway going on will change nothing the same, it was my fault to try catalysing you and you cannot use meta this way. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Excuse me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that I have translated many more pages at Meta than you have in several years (in fact, you don't seem to have translated any page at all in years, no doubt because you are busy with other work, like blocking me). In any case, I was under the impression that this section was about you, not me. It's a huge problem that you don't know how to take criticism—even if phrased extremely politely, you immediately come to my talk page and threaten to block me; please follow the advice you give to other people, and look yourself in the mirror, so you can become a better
personcontributor. ~ DanielTom (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2014 (UTC)- You can become a better person that's definitely your main mistake, we are dealing with onwiki behaviour, while, in order to self-justify your behaviour, you include what shouldn't be included at all. Personal attacks are an easy consequence then. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Fixed, sorry if I offend you by thinking of users as persons. ~ DanielTom (talk) 23:07, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- You can become a better person that's definitely your main mistake, we are dealing with onwiki behaviour, while, in order to self-justify your behaviour, you include what shouldn't be included at all. Personal attacks are an easy consequence then. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Excuse me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that I have translated many more pages at Meta than you have in several years (in fact, you don't seem to have translated any page at all in years, no doubt because you are busy with other work, like blocking me). In any case, I was under the impression that this section was about you, not me. It's a huge problem that you don't know how to take criticism—even if phrased extremely politely, you immediately come to my talk page and threaten to block me; please follow the advice you give to other people, and look yourself in the mirror, so you can become a better
- I don't believe you were referring to someone in particular but that won't change a thing. Anyway going on will change nothing the same, it was my fault to try catalysing you and you cannot use meta this way. --Vituzzu (talk) 22:00, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- This is the second time in a matter of minutes that you deliberately misquote me. I wasn't referring to "en.wiki's checkusers" in that edit summary, I was referring to someone who has sent me death threats and who has had access to IPs (though he recently lost it), you just combined my words out of context. If you want to quote me properly, it's either "cowardly anonymous people", or "anonymous psychopaths". If your reaction after reading that (yes, truthful) post is, "hmm, I should really block DanielTom", there is something seriously wrong with you. ~ DanielTom (talk) 21:55, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- In short: you are still using meta to insult people related to your incidents on other wikis, until you won't understand incivility is *never* acceptable you'll always be in a borderline situation. For the record, you "truthful post" was calling en.wiki's checkusers "cowardly anonymous psychopaths". I honestly find almost unbelievable someone can even doubt that was *so* uncivil. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep -- Avi (talk) 00:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep — billinghurst sDrewth 03:11, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep MBisanz talk 03:31, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Glaisher [talk] 05:16, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Meno25 (talk) 06:53, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Wiki13 talk 11:13, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Steinsplitter (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Remove – Per Danny B., DanielTom, and the "remove" votes from last year. In addition, Vituzzu was one of Nemo bis' enablers: [1], [2]. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 13:18, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- My "remove" vote here has caused Vituzza to censor criticism of Nemo bis. Vituzzu is still an enabler of disgraced former sysop Nemo bis. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:38, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep up the good work! Laaknor (talk) 13:50, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Pundit (talk) 16:12, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep IW 16:39, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Remove Block before warning of DanielTom explains the whole thing, and per Michaeldsuarez. Message at DanielTom's talk page show obvious lack of maturity, that messages slaps me in the face. --Goldenburg111 17:14, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Roberto Segnali all'Indiano 17:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --FriedrickMILBarbarossa (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Remove See steward's response to DanielTom above and, after DT's comment, on DanielTom talk,today, and [6], and per Michaeldsuarez. During this very confirmation process, this is conduct unbecoming of a steward, showing an inability to tolerate even mild criticism. --Abd (talk) 18:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- In short I've lifted DanielTom's block just to see him deeming "truthful post" a bunch of blatant personal attacks he made. That's definitely a dramatic failure in my attempt to catalyse him. A failure which is, speaking frankly, also due to the very bad advices you gave him. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- This page is not about DanielTom, it is about Vituzzu. This "ex-enwiki user" has never before been threatened by a steward. Now, today. Abd (talk) 23:04, 9 February 2014
- In short I've lifted DanielTom's block just to see him deeming "truthful post" a bunch of blatant personal attacks he made. That's definitely a dramatic failure in my attempt to catalyse him. A failure which is, speaking frankly, also due to the very bad advices you gave him. --Vituzzu (talk) 21:37, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - The opposes are not at all convincing. Sportsguy17 (talk) 18:38, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Remove per DanielTom, Danny B., and Michaeldsuarez. Is somewhat trigger happy with his tools and I don't believe he can stay impartial enough in disputes. jni (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Great all around! --Gobbler (talk) 22:20, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep A great guy, a great user. Thank you for your note about Diamant; I appreciated you brought his memory with you here --g (talk) 00:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Remove, per DanielTom, Danny B., and Michaeldsuarez. Seems to have used his own rights for unblock himself in 2012, but this not passed in 2013. --Zerabat (talk) 02:07, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Self-unblock legitimate, buggy edit filter.However, he's using his tools inappropriately here, today, deleting, without discussion, User talk:Jimbo Wales/Archiveand full-protecting User talk:Jimbo Wales, claiming vandalism, when there wasn't.--Abd (talk) 02:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)- I misread another log, maybe not an accident. Vittuzu's block log on itwiki for 30 March 2012 [7] shows self-unblock for block at 21:10 for personal attack. It then has some self block and unblock actions by Vituzzu. The full block log then has a three more blocks and self unblocks, 8 Nov, 2012, from edit filter blocking. I have seen this behavior from a user pushing information away from the top of a display. There may be an innocent explanation; however, Zerabat was correct. The objection was made at confirmation in 2013, and wasn't "passed", i.e., it may not have been noticed, for quite the same reason I misread the log. There are many more opposing this time. --Abd (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Abd, you misunderstand. Vituzzu was restoring "move" protection after the "move" protection was lost during the deletion. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks, Michael, I misread the log. --Abd (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Besides, that action was performed with the sysop tools that Vituzzu possesses on this project and is not related to steward work. LlamaAl (talk) 04:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- The timing of his various actions shows reaction to comments here, which reflects on his ability as a steward to handle criticism evenly and without retaliation. --Abd (talk) 04:52, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Abd, you misunderstand. Vituzzu was restoring "move" protection after the "move" protection was lost during the deletion. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 04:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- I misread another log, maybe not an accident. Vittuzu's block log on itwiki for 30 March 2012 [7] shows self-unblock for block at 21:10 for personal attack. It then has some self block and unblock actions by Vituzzu. The full block log then has a three more blocks and self unblocks, 8 Nov, 2012, from edit filter blocking. I have seen this behavior from a user pushing information away from the top of a display. There may be an innocent explanation; however, Zerabat was correct. The objection was made at confirmation in 2013, and wasn't "passed", i.e., it may not have been noticed, for quite the same reason I misread the log. There are many more opposing this time. --Abd (talk) 06:05, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Risker (talk) 03:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Delfort (talk) 10:45, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Wim b / [ t ] 11:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep -- Wagino 20100516 (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Guycn2 (talk) 18:39, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Totally unconvinced by opposition. AGK [•] 18:43, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep--Jusjih (talk) 21:25, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Igorwindsor (talk) 22:00, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Ask21 (talk) 14:42, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep from my personal point of view and what I've seen in 2013. -- Quentinv57 (talk) 16:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Defender (talk) 18:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep--Dome A disposizione! 22:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Demart81 (Qualcuno mi cerca?) 22:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Euphydryas (msg) 22:30, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep certainly! Trijnsteltalk 22:59, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Ganímedes (talk) 23:03, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep The opposes are not convincing. Armbrust (talk) 05:45, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per Snowolf and Quentinv57. Besides, most of the opposes seem to focus on his work as a local admin here, not as a steward. Mathonius (talk) 11:53, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Alright. Elfix 18:30, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Nungalpiriggal (talk) 20:49, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep—Teles «Talk to me ˱C L @ S˲» 21:58, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep per AGF. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 12:13, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Eumolpo (talk) 16:36, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep I love you all~~ ✒ Bennylin 13:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep, why not? --Midnight Gambler (talk) 09:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Kartoffeln sind wichtig. Vogone talk 11:54, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep — Arkanosis ✉ 12:00, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Nolispanmo (talk) 12:12, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - Hoo man (talk) 14:21, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Kartoffeln. Nothing to say more. —DerHexer (Talk) 17:59, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep--Kal-El drop me a line! 18:48, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - QuiteUnusual (talk) 22:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep --Holder (talk) 06:23, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep -jkb- 20:45, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep —DoRD talk 15:11, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep -FASTILY 09:17, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep. Unconvinced by the opposes. Jafeluv (talk) 13:53, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep - εΔω 22:23, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep Sure! --Pratyya (Hello!) 07:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep -- Zyephyrus (talk) 16:22, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Keep TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 23:24, 27 February 2014 (UTC)