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Global blocking of open proxies

Hello, due to a concern raised at d:Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/HaroldBot (and barely touched at the long-closed w:Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ProcseeBot), is there any steward willing to undergo the task of either globally blocking open proxies in bulk (maybe from a list generated and reported by a bot) or in support of having a bot do it? It would be in compliance with No open proxies, and along with reducing the need for multiple local blocks per proxy, would help to minimise xwiki abuse.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  04:25, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that it is impossible to reliably determine that a particular IP is an open proxy unless you actually try to make a connection through it. So, it is not clear how your bot is going to test them. Even in this case the massive blocking of open proxies will lead to a significant overblocking of many legitimate users as open proxies constantly appear and go and IPs that once were open proxies may be given to legitimate users. You will need to redo checks fairly frequently to minimize this problem. In addition, many so called open proxies simply arise due to errors in configuration and may not be a threat to our projects. Ruslik (talk) 06:23, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
I agree with Ruslik and don't think it is necessary to block open proxies which do not abuse. --MF-W 16:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Ruslik's arguments are quite interesting and I completely agree with MF-W. The risk to block non-proxies or former proxies, and thus preventing regular contributors from editing, is too high for automated (g)blockig. Regards, Vogone talk 17:10, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
If I understand how ProcseeBot works correctly (which I very well may not), it independently verifies that a proxy is open before blocking. 17:15, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
Yes, or at least that's what slakr said on the BRFA.  Hazard-SJ  ✈  02:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Massive sysop abuse in ce.wikipedia


I tried to move a page in my userspace about WikiLang to main because there are other WikiLang pages in main, but I didn't know that the move was set in userspace, and I accidentally turned 1 into ! by adding 'shift'. So this is not vandalism, and please give me back my rights.--Seonookim (talk) 04:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

You should have moved it back instead of copy-pasting. Ruslik (talk) 08:10, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
You need help from a Meta admin, not a Steward. Please request here: Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat QuiteUnusual (talk) 08:21, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Disruptive user at Punjabi language wikipedia

Hello to all the Stewards'! I am Raj Singh. A user from Punjabi language wikipedia There is a disruptive user that is bothering and warring with me over some matter. This Dispupting User is pa:User:Babanwalia, he think that whatever he do is right and what other are do is wrong. He think because he made a page that it must be his property and nobody is have permissions to edit. Have a look at some problem:

  • This works: In this article you are see I have tag it with {{ਬੇ-ਹਵਾਲਾ}} (sourceless), {{ਅਧਾਰ}} (stub) and I have change the number from Gurmukhi to International arabic which is used everywhere in online Punjabi, Newly published books and the Punjabi University Patiala use these, we even have a discussion at here and most are support and there is good point and no point from oppose. But on this page Babanwalia rather because he believe it is his article that I am not allow to change it so he say I am vandalize but all I did was right. I am say very sorry for war, that I did was wrong and I rather come ask here and report him. Same thing happen at here. Instead of making sources and making bigger he wars and removes all the tag I apply and he call it vandalism.
  • Same here. At Boston article I move it to correct name ਬੋਸਟਨ but he revert and say "Dont just copy the spellings from Hindi wiki. Given in the aricle is the pronunciation. Listen to it and then edit further." (in fact the Hindi copy is ਬੋਸ੍ਟਨ which I did not use) but also most Punjabi news that cover the recent event use ਬੋਸਟਨ, not "ਬੌਸਟਨ" (Baustan)

He also sends false messages to Users Satdeep Gill and Kooljeet:

ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰਕੇ ਵੇਖੋ ਕਿ ਰਾਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਕਿਵੇਂ ਜਦ ਵੀ ਇਸ ਵਿਕੀ ਉੱਤੇ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਬਸ ਸਿਰਫ਼ ਉਜਾੜਾ ਹੀ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ, ਲਿਪੀ ਦੀ ਬਦਲੀ, ਦਿੱਤੇ ਹੋਏ ਹਿੱਜਿਆਂ ਦੀ ਬਦਲੀ ਆਦਿ। ਕੋਈ ਇੱਕ ਚੱਜ ਦੀ ਸੋਧ ਨਹੀਂ ਵੇਖੀ ਮੈਂ। ਅਤੇ ਉੱਤੋਂ ਬਾਕੀ ਕੰਮ ਕਰ ਰਹੇ ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰਾਂ ਦਾ ਵੀ ਸਮਾਂ ਖਰਾਬ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਕਿਰਪਾ ਕਰਕੇ ਉਸਨੂੰ ਸਮਝਾਓ ਕਿ ਲੜਾਈਆਂ ਛੱਡ ਕੇ ਵਿਕੀ ਦੇ ਵਾਧੇ ਵਿੱਚ ਯੋਗਦਾਨ ਪਾਵੇ। --Babanwalia (ਗੱਲ-ਬਾਤ) ੧੪:੨੦, ੧੮ ਅਪਰੈਲ ੨੦੧੩ (UTC)
Trasnlation: Please look how since Raj Singh has come on this wiki he is only vandalizing, changing script and given spellings etc. I am not seeing any constructive edits. as well as this he is also wasting other users time. Please make him understand that he must leave fighting and contribute into growing wiki.

I never vandalize beside war which he is also equal responsable, but he say I am waste his time and he say his spelling is right and I even told sources. Please allow to make Babanwalia understand that Wikipedia is for everyone to edit according to consensus, all other users are editing according to consensus except Babanwalia. All articles that are release in Punjabi language wikipedia are use Intenational numbers except pages made by Babanwalia, he also is refuse to work with other consensuses. Whatever I do that he dispute he try to find a way to blame it on "Hindi" always and he not only done it with me, many other to, Please do also make him understand that tagging, changing numbers systems by consensus and changing name of article according to sources are not vandalism. Thank you for reading and please help because pa.wikipedia has no active admin. --Raj Singh (talk) 15:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)


Dear stewards, could you please use the appropiate format when noting removals or extensions on that page? The bot will not archive a thread on that page if the syntax is not respected. Templates like {{removed}} will not work. Simply use '''Extended''' or '''Removed''' (no dots at the end of the word) as the heading of the page notes. That, or archive the thread yourself at the relevant archives. Thanks for your cooperation. -- MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:43, 26 April 2013 (UTC)