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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello Ajraddatz, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). If you would like, feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Happy editing! Barras 19:01, 4 January 2011 (UTC)


Check this. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:21, 10 January 2011 (UTC)


Hi Ajraddatz,

Not all of my cross-wiki work translates well into what is visible with the Steward elections. If you'd like, I can give you a rundown of my cross-wiki work to help alleviate any concerns over inexperience in that area. Furthermore, while I cannot speak foreign languages very well, it has not interfered with my cross-wiki and foreign language wiki work. In fact, for the 2010 fundraiser, I was responsible for helping implement translations, as well as assisting with outreach and foundation assistance on smaller wikis. Though this does not translate well into edit-count, there are numerous people involved with the fundraiser that can vouch for my cross-wiki and language capability being sufficient for the task. I hope this alleviates any concerns you have, and please feel free to get in touch with me on my talk page for any questions. SWATJester Son of the Defender 22:38, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

GS edit[edit]

Hiya! :) I just saw your edit to GS and agree that the paragraph needs a rewrite. The issue is that within the GS framework, a wiki can technically opt-in, although I don't believe any have yet. What do you think? :) fr33kman 03:33, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

I think that the entire page needs a redo; it doesn't even mention the prerequisite of 6 months of content wiki adminship before requesting.
While it is possible for a wiki to opt-in, the wikiset is set as opt-out, so it might be easiest to just say opt-out instead of confusing people like me :P Ajraddatz (Talk) 03:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Request for being a Global Sysop[edit]

Hello Ajraddatz,

As you may know I recently commented your request, finding that a little sysop experience will be a good thing before requesting the Global Sysop status. And you see I'm not the only one worrying about that. That's why I would suggest you to request adminship on WikiMedia testwiki : I'm sure it would be better to experience tools there than on content projects, and it would probably reassure some people. Best regards, -- Quentinv57 (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Alright, if you think that requesting the tools there would be beneficial, I will. Thanks for your feedback. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:02, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
And the second variant will be meta sysopship. You are quite active on meta, and i think that few more edits here will make it easy. I didn´t vote because i don´t want to add one more oppose because of lack of sysop experiance, even if i would like to support you. But think about this opinion i wrote above. --WizardOfOz talk 18:28, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
I think that one of the actual requirements for being an admin on meta is three months of WMF admin experience, plus, there are plenty of meta admins to do the few sysop tasks that need doing here. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
We are still discussing about content and no-comntent sysopship as requirement for meta. As i see, you are now sysop on testwiki... so do some work there and than run for meta or gs. I hope there will be no change of rules untill then. --WizardOfOz talk 18:52, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
If you really want to see my admin experience, I've provided links on the request. But I'm still not going to start editing a wiki, just to become an admin, just to become a global sysop when there really shouldn't be a problem with me becoming a gs now. Plus, editing on a wiki just to become an admin is something that I despise other people doing, so I definitely will not do it. Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:07, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
Ok lets see: how would you solve this in case you were a sysop on hrwiki. Forget everithing that has been done in this case, give me just your meaning about the whole case. I think that if you find any plausible solution (not matter if this solution will be for or against me), there will be no reason not to support you, not for me and I´m sure for others the same. --WizardOfOz talk 16:32, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Preliminary thoughts:

  • It's obvious looking at Kubura's interactions/actions outside of this case that he is not a good choice for an admin anyways. He gets very involved in on-wiki issues, to the point of allowing himself to be emotionally compromised. Also, whether or not you were at fault, that admin shouldn't have been the one to make the block, since he clearly doesn't like you/was involved.
  • I'd also say that the steward that removed his sysop tools was in the wrong, as he violated the steward's policy of not making decisions. Something like that should have been left for the community to decide.

Final thoughts:

  • In this case, I'd support desysopping or strongly warning Kubura over taking a sysop action in a case in which he was obviously involved. Also, I'd caution him to try and not take such a strong stance in issues, but rather try and stay neutral, especially when taking actions like a block.
  • Unblock you. The three main reasons why people want you blocked seem to be because they don't like you, Croatian isn't your preferred language and because you initiated the creation of a bad ArbCom.
    • In regards to the first, this is never a good reason to block someone.
    • In regards to the second, it isn't a crime to contribute in more than one language. If the community had gone and created a policy about blocking anyone who didn't use strictly Croatian, sure, a block would be warranted. I'd never see any good community passing that proposal, though.
    • In regards to the third, it isn't a crime to initiate what you feel will be a positive solution - never mind the fact that many other wikis have taken the same course, a course that was initiated first by Jimbo Wales on enwp. While I personally don't like cabals, ArbCom is one that can work, even though it can also be broken easily by the actions of a few people. At any rate, there is no harm in proposing it. It didn't work out in this case, but that's no reason to block someone.
    • All of this being said, if the community really doesn't like you for whatever reason and takes a vote to block you, consensus established there should be enforced. But I see no need for an arbitrary block on the judgement of one user in this case.

Anyways, I also realize that a global sysop would never be responsible for getting this involved on a small wiki and settling a dispute, but I am still glad to spend time looking through a situation like this and telling people what I'd do. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:33, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I´ve gave you this case just to see the way you would act. Even if don´t agree with some lines above, you have provide me a evidence that you are more than able to act in a community. Using buttons is one, but need to judge in a community another thing. Thats what a content sysop need to do. Even if you´ll never need to judge as a gs, I trust you like i will do it to any other user who is already sysop and requests a gs flag. Thanks once more. --WizardOfOz talk 18:44, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for giving me the chance to prove myself. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations and a request[edit]

Hey congratulations for having those cool tools! And a request, can you add babel templates on your meta userpage? That will be helpful for people to know what languages they can contact you with. :) — Tanvir | Talk ] 06:36, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and congratulations to you as well, I see that your request also passed :) - I've added the template. Ajraddatz (Talk) 13:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
Good luck Ajraddatz ! And remember to contact me if you need some help ;) -- Quentinv57 (talk) 15:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
hello! i want ask you some things about wikimedia because i am not proficient in use wikimedia yet.

Using GS tools in Bengali Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Ajraddatz, I see you are continuously using your global sysop tools in Bengali Wikipedia. That wiki has 9 sysop with 4 active ones. Please not that it is not a good practice using GS tools to nuke harmless nonsense page, where there are plenty of local sysops to deal with. I hope you will understand. Leaving a delete on that page will be the best way to help. I hope you will consider. Wikitanvir 08:19, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

If you say so. In that case, I was helping to clean up crosswiki vandalism (if I hadn't done it a steward would have), but I'll try to avoid it anyways. Ajraddatz (Talk) 13:38, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
Also, if the community has such a problem with GS actions being taken there, why don't they just opt-out? Ajraddatz (Talk) 13:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
First of all, I have no doubt that you wanted to help. I appreciate your intention, and stewards never act in such cases if there are enough (more than 2 is considered enough) active sysops. It's not a problem yet, it's just not a good practice. Though I am a local sysop there, but I am not the community. Here, I am a GS like you are, and we have to practice our attitudes with caution to avoid any possible controversies. So, if there are more than 2 active sysops, we should give local sysops the chance to nuke those harmless pages, as it's mostly their jobs.
There are few more wikis out there who are in GS wiki-set, but also have few active local sysops. Technically GSs have sysop access over 600 wikis, but we should only act when locals need us. That's what I call good practice. Wikitanvir 14:40, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
I personally don't see the deletion of crosswiki vandalism from a wiki with GS enabled as either controversial, or outside of the GS scope, but as I said above if you don't want me doing that on that wiki I won't. GS is enabled on wikis to help speed up maintenance, etc, as well as give local admins a hand - if there is a problem with global sysops performing actions on wikis, then as I said opting out would be a good thing. Anyways, thanks for your thoughts, I'll try to remember to not perform actions on that wiki. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:15, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Question about patrolled "WikiOldTimeSolutions" page[edit]

Hi Ajraddatz,
I'm new to wiki editing and contributing.
I have recently created
I saw the following logs on a page I have created recently:

   06:18, 10 June 2011 Micki (talk | contribs) deleted "WikiOldTimeSolutions" ‎ (Test, please use the sandbox) 
02:49, 10 June 2011 Ajraddatz (talk | contribs) marked revision 2650982 of WikiOldTimeSolutions patrolled (aut

omatic) ‎

Could you tell me what is the meaning of "patrolled"?
Sebastien.Binet 17:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikimedia! Patrolling pages is a system of checking for the quality of edits, and some people go through the Special:RecentChanges checking edits. If they are good, they are marked as "patrolled" so that everyone else knows that they are good. All of my edits are automatically patrolled because I have that right. Have a nice day, Ajraddatz (Talk) 17:20, 14 June 2011 (UTC) --Retrieved from ""
Hi Ajraddatz,
From your answer, I understand that you have observed that page and you have found that it is ok. Do I understand well?
If this is the case, I guess that Micki will soon tell me why he has deleted it a few hours later.
Sebastien.Binet 17:49, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Actually, all it meant was that my edit was well. Your page was deleted because it does not fall into meta's inclusion policy. I'm not entirely sure where you could remake that page, you'd better wait for Micki. Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC) --Retrieved from ""
A last question: How can I see the change that you have made? Now that the page was deleted by Micki, it seems that I cannot see its history.
Sebastien.Binet 18:30, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
You can't, and neither can I. Only administrators can view a deleted revision, so you'll need to ask one of them to copy/paste it onto your talk page. Sorry for the inconvenience, Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:37, 14 June 2011 (UTC)



I see that you reverted me on the file br:Restr:Eniac.jpg because it is used. It's true but there is the same picture with the same name on Commons : commons:File:Eniac.jpg. So, could you delete this file on ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 12:00, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Could you link me to the commons file, please? Ajraddatz (Talk) 13:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
As I said : commons:File:Eniac.jpg (same name so there will be no impact on br.wp). Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 16:32, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I misread what you said. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, I've deleted the file. Thanks, Ajraddatz (Talk) 20:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
That’s nothing. Thanks to you ! Cdlt, VIGNERON * discut. 08:20, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Use of GS tools[edit]

Hello. When you use your GS tools on a project, please don't forget to create your user page. So local contributors can discuss with you if they need to.

Thanks by advance. Amicably, -- Quentinv57 (talk) 17:42, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure that I haven't somewhere? I'm one of the few new global sysops who always does that ;) Ajraddatz (Talk) 17:49, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
Speaking about this one -- Quentinv57 (talk) 08:47, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know, I've made my page there now, and I do try to create my userpage on every wiki that I use my tools on. Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:00, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Deleting an IP user page[edit]

Hi, Ajraddatz!

I saw that yesterday. I always thought that it was at least not controversial to delete a page like this; my opinion is similar to this one left by Mathonius. As an IP page, it will never be a 'personal' page, concerning that an IP might be used by different users. That is one of the reasons to create an account. Unless the info is about the IP itself, I don't see a reason to keep it. Since there are no active sysops on that project, I think that delete it is an action that could be performed by a GS. I agree that tag it to deletion and wait for a local sysop to delete it would be better - that is not a classic vandalism -, however I'm afraid that there would be no local sysop to delete it.
It would be great to read your opinion about it or the standard procedure in cases like this if exists. Cheers.” Teles (Talk @ C S) 05:18, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

I personally don't see what the problem here is. An IP userpage really doesn't hurt anything - regardless of what local policies are on other wikis. But beyond my personal opinion there, deleting once or maybe twice would be acceptable, but getting into essentially a delete war with the IP just really isn't needed in my opinion. Is it worth deleting eight times just to prevent the IP from making a userpage with absolutely no harmful content on it? I personally think that this has just gone very far out of proportion, with global sysops deleting a page multiple times and eventually protecting it when, in my opinion, there was nothing wrong with it in the first place. If IPs weren't allowed to have userpages globally, then I doubt that they would be allowed the technical ability to create a page in the userspace. Also, and although I appear to be outnumbered here, perhaps it would be good to start some sort of thread on this, so that others can present their opinions as well, and perhaps we could even establish some consensus with which to base future decisions like this off of. Thanks, Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for answering. In fact, that page wasn't deleted eight times; those are the deleted edits. From the deletion log, you can see that my deletion was the second one and it was deleted only once more by other user unless you are also taking into consideration other user pages deleted. If we consider that as a good-faith edit, I would like to know the opinion of others from community before deleting another user page; if you are willing to create a discussion, please keep me informed about it.
I've just checked other deletions. Now I think it might be some sort of vandalism. An user (it appears to be something done by the same person) not only created other user pages with very similar content (example), but also created and vandalized an user page of a registered user (see).
Anyway, I have my opinion above said on my first comment, but I guess we should ask others about deleting or not user pages created by IP. Thank you. Have a nice day week.” Teles (Talk @ C S) 22:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Three or eight doesn't matter to me, it is still more than what should have been done. If that IP truly is a vandal, then its actions could be seen as trolling, but either way this could have been solved by just leaving it alone. As I said above, a page with "Hello!!!!" isn't hurting anyone. Regardless of the intent of the IP in this case, I still feel that it is a waste of time to delete IP user pages on small wikis, and quite possibly not covered by the GS scope either, considering it is more of a local thing whether or not IP userpages are deleted. Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Just for the record[edit]


I just wanted to let you know that I'm still a moderator (administrator) on Incubar, MediaWiki and ffrwiki (and some other things like the blog and mailinglists) I only lost adminship on Commons and Meta.


Huib talk Abigor 20:38, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

You reverted an abusive edit, but RevDel and username hiding required.[edit]

[1] The username is outing and the edit should be revision deleted ASAP. --Abd 04:24, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I'd love to, but I'm not a local admin here. I'll ask someone who is to do so, though, and thanks for bringing it up. Ajraddatz (Talk) 04:25, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Done. --Bsadowski1 04:32, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for your swift response, Bsadowski. Ajraddatz, somehow I thought you were. Whatever you did, it worked. --Abd 04:45, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


Are you interested in running for steward? Can you not because you don't want to identify? — Kudu ~I/O~ 22:41, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Nope, I am not running for steward for two reasons. First of all, I can't, since I haven't been a local sysop anywhere for 3 months (global sysop doesn't count). Second, I don't really want to due to a personal belief that I don't have a sufficient understanding of the policies relating to checkuser and oversight use here, and a desire to avoid legal concerns as a result. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:47, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your antivandalistic edits on it.source[edit]

Dear Ajraddatz,

I'm grateful for your timely help in restoring my talk page on it.source. Next time you can write in English: maybe I'm not so keen when it comes to writing, but I still can read without using a dictionary.

That vandal seems ceaseless: just watch the block log...

Thank you again: whatever you need, just drop a line to ask and I'll be there to answer. - εΔω 23:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Always glad to help, and I'll be sure to watch out for that guy coming back. Good to know that you can read English, because I can't read or write in Italian. Regards, Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Reply from Babel[edit]

Hello Ajraddatz. I hope I am allowed to post here. I just wanted to clarify and expand my position regarding the meta:babel topic in a more personal manner thus off-topic for that page IMHO.

It's a fact that meta contains sensitive stuff: CentralNotice, Spam blacklist, Title blacklist, the wiki HTTP portals, etc. all of them with a global impact. As such I think that those applying here should have prior experience working with administrator stuff before. I may agree that "content projects" is probably not the best wording but I think that the requirement of having admin experience is very OK for this wiki. That's all my supporting evidence: just my personal thinking. As you can see in the poll I've linked in that page others somewhat also shared the same position. People is free to, of course, disagree with it and I respect it as I respect other positions different than mine, too. Of course my opinion is just only one and if the community gauges consensus to change the policy I will of course respect and abide by it.

To clarify: this is nothing personal with you, just a policy matter. I think you did good job and wish you the best of luck. In passing I also wanted to thank you for your recent antivandalism actions in es.wikibooks. They're welcome and thanks again.

Marco Aurelio (disputatio) 15:35, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, you are always welcome on my talk page. I understand and in fact agree with your position - there are aspects of meta that have a global impact, and I likewise think that it is important that sysop candidates have some sort of experience with sysop tools before becoming admins on meta. My only concern comes when a rule prevents otherwise good candidates from becoming admins here (and I'm not talking about myself in this regard). I likewise respect your position and you as a person, and again thanks for the clarification. Hopefully the meta community will be able to sort something out on this topic that satisfies both sides to this. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:13, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Vote page of Teles[edit]

Hello Ajraddatz, those two votes you marked as ineligible are valid, see this and this. So, I reverted your edits. — Tanvir | Talk ] 14:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh Roberto is not eligible, but you removed the vote of another user with a R.. :P Also, I fixed that, thanks! — Tanvir | Talk ] 15:05, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

My Request[edit]

Hi Ajraddatz. Since I haven't replied yet, I would like that you read this. Thank you. --Frigotoni ...i'm here; 19:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Global sysop inactivity[edit]

Sorry but I didn't find any indication about this on Talk:Global sysops, in the history of the page or elsewhere, could you point me to where it was decided? Thank you, Nemo 20:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. Nemo 20:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: NWI header edit[edit]

Hey, you're right. :-p Sorry. I didn't catch that sentence, I've changed it. Nemo 09:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

To be honest I'm not sure what's so special about a week, but whatever. Thanks for your understanding. Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:22, 1 December 2011 (UTC)


Watching the page - thanks --Herby talk thyme 19:23, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll keep you informed of any major developments as well :) Ajraddatz (Talk) 19:27, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Hi Ajraddatz, I'd like to thank you for your calm and fair comments here and on an/i. Best wishes.--Mbz1 05:46, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Just possibly[edit]

You might want to take a look at this. You will probably see it but just in case. Regards --Herby talk thyme 16:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah - I've commented on the AN thread over there, trying to clear up that my opinion on how RfCs work isn't the last word that they seem to think it is. I must say that I wondered whether the Gwen Gale RfC would attract even more enwiki drama here, seems that I was unfortunately right. Thanks for letting me know, Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:06, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Invitation to events: bot, template, and Gadget makers wanted[edit]


I thought you might want to know about some upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, extending functionality with JavaScript, the future of ResourceLoader and Gadgets, the new Lua templating system, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, MediaWiki developers, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the Chennai event in March, the Berlin hackathon in June, the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC, or any other of our events.

Best wishes! Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 00:21, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

You can now register for the Berlin hackathon. Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation Volunteer Development Coordinator 14:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the notice, though I unfortunately won't be able to attend. Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Global AbuseFilter[edit]

Hi. Regarding the Global AbuseFilter. I haven't read all the details yet, so I have no comment at this stage regarding the filter. But just want to let you know that sv.wikipedia uses the local filter and that it is maintained. So there is no need to be covered by the Global AbuseFilter. -- Tegel (Talk) 12:15, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, once technical people actually get back to me I'll add it to the list, if such a list is still needed. Ajraddatz (Talk) 05:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


hello, I want to say that you are wrong when you are saying that it was a vandalism. It was only a bad translation, good bye. ----X4v13r3 (talk) 02:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

The user has gone to many wikis creating pages like that, so I consider it cross-wiki vandalism since none of those pages are good enough to keep. Ajraddatz (Talk) 03:52, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Global bans policy discussion[edit]

At Requests for comment/Global bans, where you have commented in support of Option 2, a third option has recently been implemented. The first two options did not prove a way for respondents to indicate that they oppose global bans entirely, i.e., that it is not possible to write a meaningful global bans policy that would attract their support. Option 3 is intended to provide that opportunity, and to aid in distinguishing between people who oppose the proposed policy because it requires improvements and those who oppose the proposed policy because no policy permitting global bans should be adopted.

Because the third section was added late by a respondent, it is possible that some people who responded early in the RFC have commented at option 2, but would really prefer to support option 3, or support both. If so, you may voluntarily choose to move your original comment or to or strikethrough your original comment and add new comments. This is a courtesy notice of the change, and there is no requirement that you take any action. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)


I see you've been supporting RfCs where I am attempting to offer input and support. Ajrnub, are you stalking me everywhere?! So, can you guess who I am? JamesA (talk) 11:36, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I do my best to comment on any RfC that pops up on meta... but would you be Chicken7? cluck cluck cluck Ajraddatz (Talk) 15:50, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
What did you call me?! Jk, yes, it is I. cluck cluck cluck --Chicken7 06:42, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
I'll see. Such a guy? Ill remember u, seems to me. --Angel54 5 (talk) 21:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


Hi Ajraddatz, and thanks for processing requests at SRSD. Just wanted to remind you to create userpages in the projects where you use your tools, so that people know who you are and where to contact you if needed. (Apparently that's also a policy requirement nowadays.) Cheers, Jafeluv (talk) 11:04, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

What an odd requirement; I thought that was what talk pages were invented for. I usually do make myself userpages when I go places, but I suppose I'll need to be more careful about doing that. Thanks for the heads up. Ajraddatz (Talk) 11:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC)