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Hello bot operators (@Thparkth, NKohli (WMF), and MusikAnimal (WMF)). Please request approval at Meta:Requests for adminship (bot status request section) authorization to run this bot. Thank you! —MarcoAurelio 19:30, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: Sorry about that, we figured this was uncontroversial since it's only editing pages for Community Tech. I see the "requests for bot flags" section. We don't actually need the bot flag, though it wouldn't hurt. Is approval still necessary? What if it edited in its userspace? We of course want to adhere to any guidelines/policies/etc, but the important thing is to keep the bot running, as the wishlist survey is in progress. Please advise, thank you! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:54, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I have created a request for bot status at Meta:Requests for bot status/Community Tech bot. Regards MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:11, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal (WMF): Hi! Thanks for opening the request. The bot can of course continue running, no worries. Sorry for all the bureaucracy and the paperwork. Regards, —MarcoAurelio 09:45, 11 November 2016 (UTC)

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Uncontoversial?

This bot has started "rotating" the proposals. Is this uncontroversial? How often will it happen? Will it not be difficult to watch a proposal, if its position on the page changes again and again? What is the reasoning? Is there documentation? --𝔊 (Gradzeichen Diſk✉Talk) 05:41, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

The bot request Meta:Requests for bot status/Community Tech bot mentions nothing about this task. — xaosflux ^Talk 16:14, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@° and Xaosflux: Sorry, some explanation should have been added to the survey pages (I've done so now). The bot rotates the proposals every 6 hours so that each has a fair chance at visibility. There are so many proposals some !voters may never get to the bottom 5 or so in a category, etc. I can make this more clear in the edit summary. It was not brought up in the bot request because at the time, we did not know we were going to have nearly 300 proposals, where visibility of individual proposals would be a problem. Yes, your proposal may move up one slot (or to the bottom if it was at the top), but the benefit outweighs this minor inconvenience, we believe. Edit conflicts are also handled properly. Hopefully that makes sense, let me know if you have questions! Thanks MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 16:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Edit conflicts are a concern. If someone starts editing a commented support vote just before the rotation, and saves after the rotation, I suspect there will be a conflict? What about categories with less than 10 proposals? Is rotation needed with this categories? (There is a category with 2 proposals and it is rotated! That does not make any sense to me.) Every 6 hours means 4 rotations per day, 2 of which are during business hours. But in a worldwide project, this are not the same two for everyone. With the number of propasls being a multiple of two some propasals will profit, others not. If rotation is needed, how about moving each propasal to a subpage, so that if you start editing the voting section, you stay on the edited page, even if the category page gets rotated in the meantime. --𝔊 (Gradzeichen Diſk✉Talk) 17:22, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

@°: We investigated using subpages and decided it wouldn't work for us (for various reasons). Edit conflicts are bound to happen on any busy page, with or without the rotation. E.g. if I tried to add my support !vote at the same time as you, we'd have an edit conflict. 4 rotations a day seems modest considering. I will talk with the team about decreasing the rotation rate (making it less often), but I truly believe what we have is ideal. You are right about the need to rotate categories with fewer proposals. I can try to add some special logic for those, but again I don't find it particularly troublesome. Thanks for your insight and understanding! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

I like the idea of rotating proposals and I support it for holding justice. I just want to mention a possible drawback: I had loaded the page before your bot rotated the proposals. I was reading proposals from top to bottom and it took some time. When I hit the [edit] link to cast my support !vote for 2016 Community Wishlist Survey/Categories/Admins and stewards#Allow user rights to expire automatically, I ended up somewhere else! Fortunately I found out that something was wrong. I reloaded the page and cast my support !vote at the right place. I'm afraid that some users might cast their votes in the wrong place. 4nn1l2 (talk) 18:56, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

This is true, and I suppose a necessary consequence :( We're taking all of these lessons into account for next year's survey, but for now we might have to deal with these drawbacks. I'm going to reduce the rotation rate to three times a day, making this scenario less likely. The issue you speak of is compounded by the fact that the Voting sections do not have working anchors. There is an embedded {{anchor}} tag that means you will be brought to the right section if you are pinged, but after hitting save you are not brought back to the area of the page that you just edited (flaw with MediaWiki). I might shift my focus to this issue, and somehow ensure the user is at least redirected back, so they can quickly notice their mistake should they have voted in the wrong place. Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 19:06, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Each voting section now has a unique, informative title. This should make it clear what you're voting for. Thanks! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:21, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Is there a reason the bot is continually rotating proposals today? Samwalton9 (talk) 17:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

It was an error related to fixing a different bug. Sorry about the noise! Quiddity (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

Empty report

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T159774

Hi, really nice to see that the report has been taken up again. On en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Popular pages, the bot seems to have created an empty report though. Opencooper (talk) 00:06, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

@NKohli (WMF): pinging. Opencooper (talk) 20:11, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi! The bot is still a work-in-progress. There are a bunch of reports that have turned up empty. This is because the PROJECT param that project uses in its assessment template is different from the project name. If you could help with fixing that, you can change the "Name" field for the project on User:Community_Tech_bot/Popular_pages_config.json. If you don't feel comfortable editing JSON, I can do it as well. It'll take me a day or two to get there though and some more days to update the bot again. Thank you for your patience. :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 01:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Patience - yes - it is removing more than adding of the projects I have on watch - please fix it! Thanks :JarrahTree (talk) 10:46, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

repeatedly removing - and not replacing with anythng :JarrahTree (talk) 14:52, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

@Opencooper: The reason WikiProject Anime and manga isn't working is because that project doesn't use the WPBannerMeta template for its talk page banner (which this bot relies on). That's also why it doesn't show up in other interfaces like CopyPatrol. It's possible to work around this limitation by adding a bunch of extra code to the WikiProject Anime and manga banner template, but like I tried to explain on the template talk page, there's no reason why WikiProject Anime and manga couldn't use the WPBannerMeta template. I'll go follow up on that discussion and see if we can reach a consensus. Kaldari (talk) 06:51, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

NKohli, I would edit it but I'm not sure what to change it to so it would be appreciated if you could make the changes instead. That is if the issue Kaldari mentioned about the WPBannerMeta template isn't a blocker. Kaldari, thanks for looking into it, I certainly think the templates should all use the same base for consistency and so other tools can utilize them properly. Opencooper (talk) 07:10, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: If you could let us know which projects you are noticing problems with, we'll try to get them fixed quickly. FWIW, the bot will no longer write empty reports as of earlier today. If it can't locate the articles for a project, it will just skip writing the report entirely. Kaldari (talk) 05:36, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

sorry I have a very complicated watch list - might not be able to track in the short term :JarrahTree (talk) 13:03, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages

I realize it might still be in development, but wanted to send a notice that these reports don't appear to be working:

• WikiProject Video games/Popular pages
• WikiProject Philosophy/Anarchism/Popular pages

czar 06:37, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Empty WikiProject_Poker/Popular_pages 2005 (talk) 01:57, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@Czar and 2005: I looked into the 3 WikiProjects mentioned above:

• WikiProject Video games: Bot hasn't gotten to it yet, but should work.
• WikiProject Philosophy/Anarchism: Known bug (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159774)
• WikiProject Poker: This is set up as a task force in {{WikiProject Gambling}}, although it's actually not a task force, it's a full WikiProject. I've fixed this in the config for the bot, but it should really be fixed at the template level. All WikiProjects should have their own banner templates.

Kaldari (talk) 06:35, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

The bot also emptied en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Western Australia/Popular pages (diff). Probably the same issue as above - the project uses parameters within the Australia project's banner, since by definition any page within the WP:WA project's scope is also within the parent project's scope. - Evad37 (talk) 02:00, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

@Evad37: WikiProject Western Australia is fixed for the next bot run. The issue, as you noted, is that WikiProject Western Australia is set up as a task force of WikiProject Australia in the banner template, so it gets reported to the PageAssessments extension as "WikiProject Australia/WikiProject Western Australia" rather than just "WikiProject Western Australia". Let us know if you see any others that need to be fixed. Kaldari (talk) 05:42, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

That is very weird - because all the states of australia have projects and we were under the inpression that they were setup as 'sub projects' - not 'task forces' as far as I can remember when they were created - :JarrahTree (talk) 13:01, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I wonder if the bot should be aggregating page views for redirects and the redirect target in compiling the report? Imzadi 1979 → 22:47, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

@Imzadi1979: We'll be adding that soon: phabricator:T160201. Kaldari (talk) 05:24, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Coming from WP:NZ. Can we rank pages not by views but by views/wikiprojects? Most of our high ranked pages are in dozens of different projects and we have little to do with them. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:50, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi. What do you mean by "views/wikiprojects"? The page views are not affected by wikiprojects in any way. They are independent of each other. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 11:21, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Updates

Wondering if we can have the updates occur in the section "list"? And not remove the top stuff here. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:49, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Also does this bot produce total pageviews for the pages within a Wikiproject in that month? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:55, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

About having updates occur only in section "list", it'll need some investigation and modifications in the existing code. Can you file a ticket for this?

And no, the bot does not produce total pageviews for a project. Is this something that'd be useful to add? Feel free to file a ticket if so. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Note that the previous version of the bot didn't overwrite page headers (e.g., project nav banners). Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:50, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Okay created the ticket here[1] for total pageviews Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:24, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Page views for WikiProject Sanitation?

There used to be a bot giving us the popular pages views statistics for WikiProject Sanitation. Not sure if this bot here is that same as that one? If yes, when will this page update itself? Do I need to do something to get it updated? See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sanitation/Popular_pages Currently it is stuck at March 2016. - Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 12:18, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Updated. The bot hadn't reached it when you posted this. :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Current issues in popular pages

Here are current issues that I know of:

1. Empty reports (see above). Also add en:WP:LOU/PP to the pile. en:WP:KY/PP hasn't been run at all yet. (These are projects I work on a lot.)
2. Redirects aren't included in the stats like before (phab:T160201)
3. Page headers are being overwritten, like in en:WP:LOU/PP, the project banner went away. The previous bot left page headers in place.

Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:43, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Redirects though once they are followed end up being added to the viewer numbers for the primary page no? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm not expert in this aspect, but the previous bot had to add redirect calls because the views were accumulated for the redirects and not the pages they redirected do. There is a ticket linked above to investigate this. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Ah well if that is the case it needs to be fixed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:25, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I guess the issue we have at this point is how gradual the bot is running. It's April 11, and still working on WikiProjects that start with 'B', the last one being 'Boxing'. It's not purely running in alphabetical order, but that's generally how the bot is proceeding. At this rate, it clearly will go into succeeding months just to complete March stats. I didn't want to be the one to complain, but this is a problem. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:11, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

I haven't investigated the code, but it seems like it's quering article that's in multiple projects multiple times, but it gets the same data (or it should get :D ). So I think it would be logically (and probably much more faster) to simply get the list of pages, that are in at least one project scope and then query views for them (store data in database). And then simply update reports. --Edgars2007 (talk) 16:17, 22 April 2017 (UTC)

That's correct. The bot is indeed slower than we'd anticipated because we are fetching data for redirects and that pushes the number of pages queried to be very high. We are looking into ways to make it run faster without compromising on the data. To respond to @Edgars2007: every project does its own evaluation for a page. So it is very much possible for a page to have different class/Importance factors depending on the wikiproject. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 02:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

NKohli, OK, yes, each project has it's own evaluation, but that doesn't mean, that pageviews will be different for those articles in other project :) How I see bot algorithm (in big steps):

a) get's list of all articles, that are in at least one project scope (so it gets article "United States" only once, not many)

b) get's pageviews for each article (with all those redirect views) and store them in datrabase or some array

c) get's let's say Wikiproject Maths article list with their quality levels and lookups for pageviews in table or array.

d) voila!

--Edgars2007 (talk) 07:08, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, we are looking into caching pageviews for articles but it will not provide us as much of a speedup as it appears because the Pageviews API does caching on their end, so the time saved would be very small. Our best possible alternative, apparently, is to run two or more instances of the bot so it can cover multiple projects in parallel. We risk running into memory or API limits though. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

I would like to include another, (not sure if 2. covers this or not):

4. Sub-project groups (eg. WikiProject Caribbean), that are tagged to parent pages (eg. Haiti=yes) are also not incurred no longer in these statistics. Please, please find a solution for this one (as well as the mentions above of course). Popular pages is probably my favorite statistic on the platform and it was working so well, don't want it to become nostalgic. Cheers! Savvyjack23 (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Savvyjack23:, thanks for reporting this. We can take a look into it. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 02:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello. I think the same is happening for Wikipedia:WikiProject Scottish Castles. Where the talk page has {{WikiProject Scotland|castles=yes}} (instead of {{WikiProject Scottish Castles}}), then it doesn't show up in the popular pages list. This is the case for en:Balmoral Castle, which gets most page views of all yet does not appear in the list! Thank you for looking into this. What Are The Civilian Applications? (talk) 12:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@Savvyjack23: The problem with Haiti is that Haiti is set up both as a full WikiProject and as a task force of WikiProject Caribbean. Currently the bot is only generating a report for the full WikiProject. I can also have it generate a separate report for the task force, but they can't be combined into the same report. Someone needs to decide if Haiti is a full WikiProject or a task force of WikiProject Caribbean. It can't be both. It looks like Cuba has the same problem, but Jamaica, Dominican Republic, Bermuda, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Barbados, etc are set up correctly. The easiest solution is to do something like Template:WikiProject Jamaica. Kaldari (talk) 23:01, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@Kaldari:, thanks for the response. I just don't understand why the script that was allowing this to no longer be at play here. Are we really better off than before? I could be wrong but I don't believe what we had was broken; it seems incomplete now. What you are suggesting would be some very tedious work. Savvyjack23 (talk) 04:07, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

@Savvyjack23: The old script (which stopped working about a year ago and can't be fixed without significant re-architecting) figured out WikiProject membership based on category conventions, which isn't easily portable to other wikis. The new script relies on a parser function embedded in a shared banner template, so it can easily be ported to other wikis that also have WikiProjects (like French Wikipedia), regardless of their category conventions. I would be happy to help fix the templates for WikiProject Haiti. I just need to know if WikiProject Haiti should be considered a stand-along WikiProject or a task force of WikiProject Caribbean (for the purposes of banner tagging). In other words, if someone wants to tag an article as being related to WikiProject Haiti, should they use {{WikiProject Haiti}} or should they use {{WikiProject Caribbean|Haiti=yes}}? Kaldari (talk) 15:36, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

@Kaldari:. Yes, ok I see. As, for project Haiti (and I believe Cuba and Puerto Rico, don't quote me though), it is a stand-alone project. Had this problem previously, where a number of {{WikiProject Haiti}}, were converted to {{WikiProject Caribbean}} without the |Haiti=yes and had to have that script amended. So yes, all should tag {{WikiProject Haiti}} Savvyjack23 (talk) 21:35, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Report not updated

The data for Wikipedia:WikiProject Jainism has not been updated for march and April. Capankajsmilyo (talk) 01:17, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 02:42, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Add project to popular pages reporting

Can you add GLAM/Pritzker [2] so that this WikiProject receives the popular pages report too? We'd like to see the top 100 pages for GLAM/Pritzker. Thanks for your assistance! TeriEmbrey (talk) 13:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @TeriEmbrey:. I want to clarify if the project you are referring to is "Pritzker Military Library". Could you tell me how you do article assessments for the project? I'm interested in the Project name field you use for doing the evaluations. Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 18:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

@NKohli (WMF): "Pritzker Military Library" is correct. Admins set this up for the WikiProject in 2013. The institution's official name has since changed to the Pritzker Military Museum & Library. Thanks for helping with this! TeriEmbrey (talk) 18:25, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

This has been done now. I generated the initial report to test it. It's available at en:Wikipedia:GLAM/Pritzker/Popular pages. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 20:13, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Any chance you could also add WikiProject Typography? Thanks. Blythwood (talk) 16:57, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Issue with popular pages for articles with double quotation marks in title

The link to the pageviews tool does not work if an article has double quotation marks in its title. For example, on w:en:Special:Permalink/779276492, the link to pageviews for the w:en:Eddie "The Eagle" Edwards article is incorrect. Feminist (talk) 10:16, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting this! I will fix this before the next bot run. :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 11:37, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Did bot for Popular pages skip a WP or is it running late?

Greetings, The monthly update of popular pages for Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Popular pages was last ran on 5:54 pm, 15 May 2017, Monday (1 month, 5 days ago). I have been checking daily to see if updated. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 13:42, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Done - The bot did run today. Thanks. JoeHebda (talk) 01:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Bot not running?

This report hasn't updated in two days. Is the bot not running or is it malfunctioning? - MrX (talk) 10:33, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

@MrX: The bot task was under trial and we were waiting for the outcome of the BRFA. It has now been approved! Moving forward the report should be updated every 12 hours. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:47, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Thank s for letting me know MusikAnimal. - MrX (talk) 17:51, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

NPR bot

Hi,

I did an abnormally large number of NPP reviews yesterday and the bot hasn't reported since (link), I'm worried I might have broken it!

Any ideas?

Thanks,

DrStrauss (talk) 15:04, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps MusikAnimal (WMF) can assist with this.MrX (talk) 18:26, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply. Did the data show up DrStrauss? MrX, Are you noticing anything off? MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 05:25, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal (WMF): Yes, it's only updating once a day now. [3].MrX (talk) 15:10, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

So I'm not sure what's going on. I first did a manual run to see if there were any errors, and all went well. Likewise I don't see any errors in the logs. It might be a memory issue, so for starters I've given the job more RAM. The report should be updated around 4:30 and 16:30 UTC every day. Hopefully the extra RAM does the trick! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 18:08, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikiproject Notre Dame

The bot updated the popular page for wikiproject Notre Dame, but it only added three pages out of hundreads. Is that a bug? Will it add more later? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eccekevin (talk) 15:39, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for the report and apologies for my delayed response. The problem was that the name field for the report contained "Notre Dame" but instead the correct name was "United States/WikiProject Indiana - Notre Dame". The comprehensive list of project names can be found here. Both of those names exist in the database and presumably somebody used the former at some point but as of today, the latter is used by the project. This is also verifiable by the assessment template used by the project. You can also use the API to see the list of pages in any given project, for example see this. I've updated the page and the report has been fixed. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 00:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Request Popular Pages report for WP:Karate task force

Hi there, I'm not sure if I'm missing some guidance somewhere on how to add a popular pages report, if I create the page will it just get picked up by the bot? We have a new task force for Karate under WP:Martial arts and this tool would be very useful for us to work out where our attention could be best used. Any assistance and guidance much welcomed, Mountaincirque (talk) 09:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi! The bot has a config page. if you add the project to it, it should work. Although I already see that report added in there. Thanks and sorry for the late reply! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 16:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Problem with WP:AFL

There are 2 ways to add articles to en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian rules football: only a few articles use {{WikiProject Australian rules football}} template, but most use an |afl=yes parameter in the {{WikiProject Australia}} template. The popular pages list seems to not detect the articles added via the afl=yes method. Interestingly though, other subprojects of WP:Australia, such as en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Adelaide/Popular pages which only uses an Adelaide=yes parameter in the {{WikiProject Australia}} template are listed correctly. Can this incorrect please be investigated and corrected? The-Pope (talk) 15:24, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, this was a problem in the bot config that I have now fixed. Whoever added the project probably made a mistake. Cheers. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 16:30, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

"Rotating proposals to ensure fair visibility (happens every 8 hours)"

Contrary to the claim in the edit summary, this seems to actually be happening every 10 minutes. It might be more efficient to use a Scribunto module to shuffle the order randomly every time the page is purged, and have the bot purge the page periodically. I can help with such a module if you'd like. Anomie (talk) 14:53, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Yup haha, it was a nasty bug. The script was erroring out for other reasons, and consequently didn't update it's local cache, so it didn't know that it already had done the rotation. It's fixed now, but I do like the idea of a module to shuffle the order on purge! I'd be interested to see how that works, but we are content with the current bot solution. Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 05:53, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

I put the template at testwiki:Template:Shuffle. The reason I suggested it was because it makes it easier to watch the pages for new proposals to look at (or is there a better way?) Anomie (talk) 15:00, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

This is very neat! Thank you :) I will look into implementing this when I have a little more time (rotation is more important during the voting phase, anyway). Indeed the bot rotation could get in the way of watching for new proposals within a category -- if you're watching for bot edits, that is. For new proposals overall, you could monitor 2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Tracking. – MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 18:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Sorting at 2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Tracking

Since you recommended 2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Tracking above as a way to watch for new proposals, what's the deal with this edit? I can't tell what if anything was changed for all the random rearranging of existing rows. Is it trying to sort based on supports or something and not using a stable sort? Anomie (talk) 16:01, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

No it definitely does not have any conception of sorting except for the category (and that's only because it's looping through category to category). Anyway it's easy enough to sort alphabetically, so I'll do that. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 04:55, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

And sorry this wasn't done sooner... like before the proposal phase ended! =P The voting phase starts in a week, then it will start sorting by support count. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 05:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

This is just to say thank you to those that developed this bot, I'm very impressed with how it's handling the housekeeping around the 2017 community wishlist proposals! Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Working with EventStreams has been fun :) MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 05:04, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Request for full list of New Page Reviewers for the year.

The community tech bot currently prepares a list of the top 100 reviewers/admins only (for the 365 day list). Could we possibly get it to also prepare a full list? It would be good if the full list was not on the same page though, to reduce loading times. Maybe a subpage such as Wikipedia:Database reports/Top new article reviewers/365 full list or similar (with a link on the main page). If the bot uses a command for the top XXX number of reviewers, this could simply be modified to record the top 2000 (as there are only 1776 admins+NPRs, though the number of NPRs is raising slowly at the moment). Currently it is near impossible to determine who is not using the tools at all, which would be useful from a statistics standpoint, but also for enabling us to decide what to do with users that have not used the user-right in the past 365 days (which we cannot currently identify unless we manually decide to go through the list of 500+ new page reviewers and check their page curation logs). Pinging MusikAnimal (WMF).

Additional subpages with the full list for day/week/month/3 month would also be useful if it is as simple as flicking a switch, but if it is not so easy, these are not as critical as having the 365 list .

If such a long-list already exists, please point me in its direction! Cheers. Insertcleverphrasehere (talk) 06:22, 7 December 2017 (UTC)

@Insertcleverphrasehere: I don't know when I'll be able to get to this, but in the meantime here's the results on Quarry, sorted by least active reviewers: quarry:query/23501. You can fork that query, and then moving forward just hit "Submit Query" to get fresh results. Regards, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 01:06, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

Is there a way to modify the query to also list users with the NPR flag that haven't reviewed at all? Currently this query only lists people who have reviewed at least one article, I also need to find the users who have the NPR flag who have not reviewed any (not including admins who have done zero reviews). I can use the data from the query you provided (alphabetized in excel) to go through the list of NPR flag holders and list any missing from the excel list, but it will take a couple hours of tedium. If there is a quick way to also list NPR flag holders in the query by default (even if 0 reviews), that would be ideal. Insertcleverphrasehere (talk) 22:41, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military logistics and medicine task force/Popular pages

G'day, would it be possible to have Community Tech bot update Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Military logistics and medicine task force/Popular pages, like it does other Milhist task force pages such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Japanese military history task force/Popular pages? Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:40, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I found a few more Milhist pages on en Wiki that currently aren't being updated by Community Tech bot, which the project would like added, if possible: AustralianRupert (talk) 09:35, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Asian military history task force/Popular pages
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/European military history task force/Popular pages
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/North American military history task force/Popular pages
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Cold War task force/Popular pages

Okay, I think I might have worked this out myself. I made the following edits: [4]. Could someone please check that these haven't messed anything up? Apologies if I have. Thank you for your time. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:05, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

This is a little late - but you figured it out perfectly fine. Thank you! :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 23:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

New report for WikiProject Korea

Hi! Checking in to see when the bot will run a new report on Wikipedia:WikiProject Korea/Popular pages. I might just be impatient :) but it would be very helpful for the working group to have a fresh report so that we know which pages to improve now that the Olympics has begun in South Korea. Thanks! Lenoresm (talk) 16:43, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, sorry for the delay. There was a backend issue last week which caused a major delay in the bot run cycle. I've triggered another run. Hopefully it'll be updated within a few hours. Feel free to ping me if that doesn't happen. Thank you! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 23:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

Report not updated

Please look at [5]. Thanks Capankajsmilyo (talk) 12:50, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Yes, see my reply in the above topic. Reports are being generated on a delay this month. It should be updated soon. Sorry for the inconvenience! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 20:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Finland

Hey! I created WikiProject_Finland/Popular pages and supposedly added it correctly to the bot's files. Any chance the bot could run on it so I know if it's working? Thank you! Manelolo (talk) 11:29, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Because you added the table, the bot thought it had done that and hence it didn't update it. The bot will update the page in the next bot run (in March). Don't add the table, the bot will do that. I looked at the config and it looks fine. The report will get updated when the bot runs. Thanks! :) -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 05:37, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Gosh, fooled the bot! Thank you very much! Manelolo (talk) 10:59, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Logfile for bot?

Hello, where is the debug log file that can be consulted to troubleshoot why the bot hasn't updated Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state)/Popular pages since August and hasn't created Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/American television task force/Popular pages? Thanks. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, the log files aren't publicly accessible - and they won't be of much use unless you have some programming experience. :) For the latter, the "Name" field in the config was wrong. I fixed it. For the former, there is no entry for it in the config, as far as I can see. From a quick look at the edit history, I couldn't find the edit that did this. But it'd be very easy to add another entry for it and the bot will resume updating it. Don't forget to look at the API page for correct "Name" field for the project. Thanks! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 22:12, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

About the contributions of 13 April 2018

Hello,
I am surprised by the contributions of the bot on 13 April 2018. It seems that these contributions are the consequences of this support vote that occurred long after the voting phase.
The updates done by the bot on the page 2017 Community Wishlist Survey/Tracking were great from the beginning until 11 December 2017, but I suppose that no update is necessary since 12 December 2017 (when Community Wishlist Survey/Tracking became Community Wishlist Survey/Results).
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 19:48, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that, NicoScribe. Your assumption seems to be correct at a first glance. MusikAnimal, can you look into disabling the bot from monitoring the voting pages until next cycle? -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 23:43, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Oops! I was fiddling with unrelated cron jobs the other day and must have turned this on by accident. The on-wiki run page has been set to false since the Survey concluded, so it shouldn't have ran anyway. Turns out this is because the code for this task was for some reason set to ignore the run page, which I've fixed. So shouldn't happen again :) Thanks for the ping, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 07:53, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

en:Talk:Margaret Thatcher

Please see the history - the bot added numerous duplicate notifications. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

It's doing it on a lot of article talk pages. I think you need to shut it down until fixed. Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Duplicated notices on en-wp

Hi, Community Tech bot has been making multiple duplicated notices for the same Commons deletion discussions on multiple pages (e.g. en:Talk:Istanbul). I've had to block it as it was doing this at high frequency and for several hours now. Fut.Perf. ☼ 07:58, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

About the vandalism of Vvjjkkii on Phabricator

Hello @NKohli (WMF) and SWilson (WMF):
Vvjjkkii has done many vandalisms in Phabricator. I have seen that you have canceled some of them, and Community Tech bot has canceled some of them, and many other users have canceled some of them.
I have checked the edits done between 3:10AM and 3:14AM but there are many others, and it seems that some edits have not been canceled (for instance, I have recently corrected Phab:T195515). Is it possible to configure Community Tech bot to cancel all the remaining vandalisms done by Vvjjkkii?
Moreover, in Phab:T197664, I have tried to cancel the vandalisms, but I do not know how to correct the point value (I do not know what a point value is, and whether it is identical to Story Points). Could you correct it?
Regards --NicoScribe (talk) 13:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

It's running again. I made the bot auto-kill itself a few hours after I went to sleep, so it didn't run wild unattended. If you only partially fixed some tasks, the bot may not be able to do the rest for you. Any other untouched tasks will eventually be cleaned up, so be patient :) MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you @MusikAnimal (WMF): I am patient, no problem. But, please, tell me when the bot has finished. There are still many remaining vandalisms: [6], [7], [8], [9], [10]... --NicoScribe (talk) 07:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

As written before, the bot is running. So there are still many remaining tasks because the bot is still running. --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 13:31, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

@AKlapper (WMF) and MusikAnimal (WMF): Unsure if you are aware, but the bot has made incomplete revert on phab:T197482 yesterday. Ankry (talk) 14:49, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. That was back when it was still hitting the rate limit. The bot since has been whitelisted and should be reverting everything, minus a few edge cases which I will explain in a follow up email on the wikitech-l and engineering mailing lists. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Popular pages in other namespaces

Thanks for this really useful bot!

We have a Wikipedia:Help Project devoted to improving the help and documentation pages on English Wikipedia. I tried to get the bot to update pageview and assessment statistics at w:Wikipedia:Help Project/Popular pages, but it appears that it only shows pages in the Article namespace which makes it of limited use for this project. Is it possible to add other namespace pages, either for this project specifically or more generally? the wub "?!" 21:46, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi the wub. Thanks for reporting this. We'll take a look at the issue. I've captured it as task T202029. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 21:09, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Why is the popular pages bot not displaying all articles tagged with WikiProject Sanitation?

The popular pages bot only shows 500 articles, see here. But there are actually 572 articles that are tagged with WikiProject Sanitation, see here Why the discrepancy? I am also suspicious because it shows exactly 500, as if it had been given a limit. EMsmile (talk) 13:40, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

You are absolutely correct. It has been given a limit of 500. I will change that to 1000 so it displays all articles it sees. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 20:32, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, User:NKohli (WMF)! EMsmile (talk) 02:49, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Assessment and priority display error

There are many instances where the assessment and priority are not displayed correctly on Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Popular Pages. For example, many articles on the list have [[:|c]] listed under assessment instead of the letter C with a yellow background. Mieulon (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, I will look into this. Thanks for letting us know! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

@Mieulon: This should be fixed, but it takes a long time to regenerate the report so if it's okay let's just wait till the next run for November. The core issue I believe is that en:Template:Maths rating is not using the standard WPBannerMeta template. I have posted a note about this at en:Special:Permalink/864804245#Corrupt page assessments data. Regards, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:44, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

Tweak

It may be helpful to insert some kind of link to c:Commons:Deletion policy in the message left by this bot. I'm noticing a lot of participation where it's evident users are not aware, and may not be aware that they are not commenting on their local project. (Please ping if I'm needed. I don't watch meta.) GMG^talk 21:37, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

The Community Wishlist Survey

Hi,

You get this message because you’ve previously participated in the Community Wishlist Survey. I just wanted to let you know that this year’s survey is now open for proposals. You can suggest technical changes until 11 November: Community Wishlist Survey 2019.

You can vote from November 16 to November 30. To keep the number of messages at a reasonable level, I won’t send out a separate reminder to you about that. /Johan (WMF) 11:23, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Database report issue

Good morning @MusikAnimal (WMF): it seems Community Tech bot is having trouble with updates to en:Wikipedia:Database reports/PRODed articles with deletion logs, it doesn't seem able to properly import deletion logs anymore. It's been the case since around November 8th. ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 14:33, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

The query needed to be updated to use the new comment table, following phab:T166733. We'll push out a fix today. Thanks for letting us know! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Okee doke, should be fixed now! MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 00:32, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Thankee-sai! ☺ · Salvidrim! · ✉ 00:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Inna

Hi there! I would like the most-viewed list on the WikiProject above to be updated as well :) Greetings; Cartoon network freak (talk) 22:18, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding totals for all spaces in stead of just mainspace: NPP

Wikipedia:Database reports/Top new article reviewers only shows mainspace reviews, and I know of no totals which account for all spaces. Can the another chart be made to show combined spaces, or it integrated? please ping me Thanks, enL3X1 ¡‹delayed reaction›¡ 00:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

File:MirrorKhabar_Logo.png why for deletion

This image or logo is created my me why for deletion. File:MirrorKhabar_Logo.png —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Padamraj.joshi (talk) 13:51, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

@Padamraj.joshi: The bot only informs you that the image is up for deletion. Please contact the Commons community to discuss reasons for deletion. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 04:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Request for a one-time run

Would it be possible to generate a one-time list of popular pages for WikiProject Plants over the limit of 1000? As far over the limit as 10,000 (or more)? If you are feeling particularly indulgent, it only needs to be the ~16,000 ones in Category:Unknown-importance plant articles so that I can assess them properly. You can post it anywhere, my sandbox, wherever. Thanks in advance. Abductive (talk) 05:59, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

@Abductive: Hi. I attempted to generate a report with the limit of 10,000 articles but the report could not be added on wiki because it would exceed the wiki page size limit. That is the reason behind the existing limit. Sorry, I won't be able to help any further. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 12:11, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

NKohli (WMF), pagination? :) --Base (talk) 11:03, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

@Abductive and Base: Consider toolforge:massviews, e.g. [11]. I ran this with the "Use subject page instead of talk page" option, which I assume is what you want. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 03:28, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Pointless notification at w:Talk:Glossary of French expressions in English

See this notification at w:Talk:Glossary of French expressions in English. Barring a mistake on my part, according to Wikiblame, this file was never used on that page. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 12:30, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

See also this edit - another notification of a file being discussed for deletion despite not being used on the page notified. Bastun (talk) 17:04, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

@Mathglot and Bastun: Thanks for bringing this to our attention. MaxSem, can you look into what's happening here? I checked the page and it appears the bug is correct. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 00:50, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

The file is used on that page even now, in the French language and French-speaking world portal box. Max Semenik (talk) 01:59, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Are you talking about the tiny thumbnail at the bottom of the Portal box in the right margin at See also section of w:Glossary of French expressions in English? Which Portal box, in turn, is transcluding w:Portal:French language and French-speaking world, which also does not contain that string anywhere? But which, in turn, transcludes w:Portal:French language and French-speaking world/Intro, which in fact does contain the image in question (albeit reduced to a Jackson Pollock-like 1cm icon in the Portal box).

If so, that feels like orders of image reduction, and a bridge, or transclusion, too far, to be germane here, given that there is no occurrence of the string New-Map-Francophone World.PNG either on the article whose Talk page received the notification (w:Glossary of French expressions in English) nor on the Portal page which that article transcluded with {{Portal|Language|French language and French-speaking world}}, namely this Portal page, and only when you go one more level deep to w:Portal:French language and French-speaking world/Intro do you finally find the string in question which includes a map.

You have to be pretty persistent in following the bread-crumbs to have any idea how to find out what this is about. This is truly a pointless notification if ever there was one. Is it being generated automatically perhaps, for every article that transcludes that portal? I hope not. Mathglot (talk) 09:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Did I set this up correctly?

I tried to correctly set-up w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Civil Rights Movement/Popular pages, but I'm not sure if I did. Could someone double check my work to ensure it's correct? Mitchumch (talk) 21:57, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

But on ruwiki

Is it possible to make this bot to run on Russian Wikipedia to notify article editors about pending deletion of Commons images? Alexei Kopylov (talk) 00:41, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Report not generated for two months

I set up Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Popular portals, but it didn't work. I assume this is due to the page not existing (and the bot then not having permission to create pages from OAuth), but I may be wrong. It appeared on User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages. I have created the above page as a blank page, but there are other projects where the page has not been created. It would be good if a fix could be implemented or a instruction to create the page be added to how to set up the bot for a project. Thanks, Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 12:43, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Popular pages - last ran 15 March 2019, Friday (1 month, 12 days ago)

Greetings, Wondering if Popular pages bot is still running? Or just late? For example here and here. Both are for Period: 2019-02-01 to 2019-02-28. Looking for March data. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 02:19, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

It is running again now! Thanks for your note! -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Photo incorrectly flagged for Speedy Deletion

This file: [12] has been incorrectly flagged for deletion. I took the photo and it is NOT a screenshot. Please do not delete. Rp2006 (talk) 15:19, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Bot is not populating en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Popular portals

The page has been listed in the json config since January and still the bot has not filled the page with pageview statistics. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 20:14, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

NKohli (WMF) Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 13:06, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

@Dreamy Jazz: Hmm, my suspicion is that the bot can't generate a report for articles in this subproject because most (all?) of the articles are not in the Main namespace. MusikAnimal do you have a moment to poke at this? Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 21:18, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Indeed that would be why. I'm not sure if we want to enable non-mainspace... at least not for every WikiProject. @Dreamy Jazz: getting pageviews including redirects probably isn't that crucial for portals (as I presume there aren't many popular redirects), so you could get an accurate representation of the top portals using Massviews. Does that suffice? — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

MusikAnimal, yeah that should be fine. It was just that some members of the project wanted to have it a while ago, but massviews should be fine. I'll place a link to it on the page. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 ^{talk to me | my contributions} 11:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Redirect shown separately on popular pages

Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms/Popular pages shows Ecgberht, King of Wessex and a redirect to this article, Egbert of Wessex, separately. Should they not be one entry? Dudley Miles (talk) 14:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

The first link in your comment leads to a non-existent page. Can you provide the correct link please? Thank you. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 21:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I do not understand this but [13] points to the correct place. Dudley Miles (talk) 12:16, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Popular pages

The month of May is nearly over and I am not seeing results for April yet... Wondering if the bot is still working? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@Doc James: Last month the bot had some issues because of the rev_actor database schema change. It's running again now and hopefully will complete within the month. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 23:57, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

As of today Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Popular pages was last Updated: 1:11 am, 30 April 2019, Tuesday (1 month, 26 days ago). Still not running? JoeHebda (talk) 13:06, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Any ETA for fix? JoeHebda (talk) 19:18, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@NKohli (WMF): Looks like it is currently not working; is this known? Kees08 (talk) 17:45, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Yup a bunch of use are hoping to see this online again. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:00, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for the delayed response everyone! Please feel free to ping me if you need prompt attention about this bot task in the future (I've added a note about this at the top of this page). The bot is now running and populating reports. It should finish all reports within two weeks or so. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 03:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

User:MusikAnimal (WMF) many thanks :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:51, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

User:MusikAnimal (WMF) will we also eventually get data for Apr and May? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Doc James: I did a one-off run for WP:MED. See Special:PermaLink/906630584 for April and Special:PermaLink/906630584 for May. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Perfect thanks :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:21, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Popular pages

Hi, I've noticed that in the latest update of en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics/Popular pages, many of the class and importance identifications are improperly formatted. The links attempt to go to ":" (impossible as an article title), thereby failing to render as links, and the cells do not have the appropriate colors, e.g. lime green for B-class. LaundryPizza03 (talk) 09:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for letting us know about this. The error seems to be due to data corruption in w:Template:Maths rating, where the template is passing in lowercase values rather than uppercase. It really should be fixed there, or even at w:Template:WPBannerMeta, but I have added a fix in the Popular Pages bot code, too. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:17, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

From en.Wikipedia WP VPT - Not running "Community tech bot" for Popular pages

The following is copy & paste from Village Pump-Technical, before it gets archived. Need followup on several items. JoeHebda (talk) 01:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

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Greetings, Community tech bot appears to be down (not running) since April, 2019. Instructions are To report bugs, please write on the Community tech bot talk page on Meta. I did report in June, and with no response. Wondering if an expert here could fix? For example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Saints/Popular pages Updated: 6:32 pm, 26 April 2019, Friday (2 months, 13 days ago). Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

• @MusikAnimal (WMF): any insight in to this? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

  The cron job for this month didn't start for some reason. I have manually triggered it. "Saints" is pretty far down the list so it may be a while before the bot gets to it. I don't have an answer as to why no report was created for May and June, but I will investigate. Also, don't forget about toolforge:massviews which can give you the same information in real-time: [14]. That tool seems to be having problems of its own (lots of errors querying the pageviews API, tracked at phab:T219857), which I'm starting to believe might be the same reason Popular Pages bot isn't finishing some reports. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:12, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

  Thanks @MusikAnimal (WMF): - I really like viewing Popular Pages on my fav. WPs; very helpful! Wondering if bot stalls out if it's not done running current month jobs & at calendar new month (day 1) starts a second bot? Just curious... JoeHebda (talk) 12:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

  I suspect all the reports will be done within the next two weeks. If not, the reports for July will start populating on the 3rd. This is because it takes up to two full days for the previous month's data to be available. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

  Hello @MusikAnimal (WMF): - Since starting at 15:41, 8 July 2019, the bot as of this morning has processed 60 WPs out of over 1,600 so it has a long ways to go to complete. At 30 perday, thats 53 days of runtime. JoeHebda (talk) 14:01, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

  The bot only goes through WPs configured at User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json, which is about 800 or so. Most of these are quite small and will be processed quickly. That said I certainly can't guarantee they will all be finished before the month is over. We are monitoring and are discussing ways to improve performance. Thanks for your patience, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 18:39, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

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• Hi @MusikAnimal (WMF): - while checking "Community Tech bot" info. I found another bot-related table Lists of popular pages by WikiProject. And it appears to be manually maintained. Comparing this table against bot configuration table, every config entry after WikiProject U.S. Roads/Wyoming/Popular pages is missing. Brings up questions:

1. Should the Lists table be updated? So it matches the Config table.
2. Should the Config page include instructions to (manually) maintain the Lists table?
3. Any way to have Techbot update that Lists table?
4. Should Lists page be abandoned/redirected to config page? Pageviews on List page are about 25 per day.

Discussion

These questions are beyond any decision that I can make on my own. Asking for more people to chime in with discussion. JoeHebda (talk) 20:22, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

I had no idea about WP:POPT. I don't think it worth the trouble to update that table. The list appears to be manually categorized. The only other information it has over User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages is the shortcuts, which aren't that important in my opinion. So yes, simply redirecting the list page seems sensible. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Working - Update table? or Redirect page? JoeHebda (talk) 02:50, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Pageviews

Greetings User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - Wonder if adding Pageviews to Popular pages would better show each WPs "Popular pages" activity? As an example, I added at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chemistry/Popular pages. Just spot-checking I've not found any WP with much activity. Maybe because of the bot not running since end of April? JoeHebda (talk) 03:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

If you mean no one is checking these reports, you're mostly right. A few months ago I did some spring cleaning and removed a bunch of apparently inactive WikiProjects from the config. There are probably more that we could remove. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

•  Working - Add Pageviews to Bot-generated popular pages? Wait until July process is done. JoeHebda (talk) 02:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Bot posting to WP talk pages

Hi User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - When the bot updates User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages, could it also post a notice at the WikiProject's talk page? This would increase awareness of Popular pages & perhaps encourage usage. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 03:40, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

We certainly can, though I'd like to hear input from more people. Many WP talk pages get a lot of spam, and some already have the popular pages report transcluded on the main WP page. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:58, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Discussion:

Question: Post a time-stamped completion message from Community Tech bot, onto each Wikiproject's Talk page? JoeHebda (talk) 02:57, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Bot issue with WP Paintball

• Good morning User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - Looking at logs for "Community Tech bot" starting at 01:14, 11 July 2019 and continuing until 02:01, 11 July 2019, the bot processed for Wikipedia:WikiProject Paintball/Popular pages eleven times. Wondering why?
• Also noticed that since Revision as of 01:33, 11 July 2019 the bot at User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages has stopped updating WPs?
• Sorry for these questions - similar to problems when I was involved with "WP 1.0 bot" for article assessment tables. Mostly caused by WPs not setup correctly, or Talk page coding errors causing the bot to respond incorrectly. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 14:03, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

  These were test edits. I chose that report because apparently no one reads it. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

  Normally the bot only updates that page after it's finished going through all WPs. I've been manually updating it (via script), just to keep track of where we are. I'm going to make the bot update it regularly on its own. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

  No worries :) MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:53, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Is the bot running - July 14th

• Hi User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - checking the bot, it has not posted any updates for "Popular pages" WPs since 12:08, 13 July 2019. Has it been paused, or just stopped on it's own because of an error? Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

  It went down over the weekend, apparently. It's back up and running now. Rest assured I'm monitoring and we'll have all reports finished in the next week or so. There's a new, much faster version of the bot that I'm almost done with, so hopefully next month we won't see any problems. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 16:58, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  Thanks User:MusikAnimal (WMF) for the update. Wondering if the number of popular pages for an individual wikiproject makes much of a difference? For example, would the bot process any faster if the WP asked for only top 100 vs. to 1,000? JoeHebda (talk) 17:41, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

  Unfortunately no. It's the size of the WikiProject itself that matters; the bot must go through every mainspace page, along with all of their redirects. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 23:14, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Version 0.7 Popular pages question

• Hi User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - This morning I noticed Wikipedia:Version 0.7/Popular pages ran at 06:15, 17 July 2019 for about 5 minutes. After some investigation, I'm wondering if this "WP" can be made Inactive? Pageviews are very low. In the grand scheme of things, that runtime might not be much. JoeHebda (talk) 13:19, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

  It is about 31,000 articles, which isn't very many. It's up to the community if they want to remove it from the bot config. I've mostly only been removing WPs that are explicitly marked as inactive or defunct. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Bot completion errors?

• Hi User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - Community Tech bot "Update report" posted over 10 times without updating any WPs in the table. From 18:01, 18 July 2019 to 21:31, 18 July 2019.
• There are several WikiProjects that were missed (according to the table)
  • WikiProject Eastern Orthodox Church/Popular pages - 2019-03-15
  • WikiProject Software/Free Software/Popular pages - 2019-03-15
  • WikiProject Las Vegas/Popular pages - 2019-04-08
  • WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country/Popular pages - 2019-04-26

Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 03:12, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting us! Eastern Orthodox Church was broken because of a recent rename. I've inquired about this on the talk page. Free Software has been updated. The other two WikiProjects are now inactive, so I've removed them from the config. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 22:08, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

August, 2019 - Popular pages

Greetings, For August processing of Popular pages so far, the bot appears to be running faster. Approximately 10 days ahead of July! Cheers, JoeHebda (talk) 01:58, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

It's done - Two follow-ups needed

Hi User:MusikAnimal (WMF) - Happy to see that "Community Tech bot" completed on August 9th, including the new WikiProjects added. A great improvement. Cheers!

Here are some WPs that need attention:

• Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Orthodox Church/Popular pages - last ran on 15 March 2019, Friday (4 months, 27 days ago)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/Free and open-source software task force/Popular pages - last ran on 22 July 2019, and not run in August.

Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 14:15, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for flagging this, and for the kind words, JoeHebda! I have asked again about Eastern Orthodox Church on the WikiProject talk page (permalink). There is a "hack" we could do to fix the report, but the core issue here is the name of the WikiProject was changed but the templates and categories were not. These should be consistent. I am leaving it up to the editors involved as to whether or not they want to fix or revert the rename.

I have made a fix for Free and open-source software. This is an interesting scenario, as that task force technically belongs to w:WP:SOFTWARE, which is a sub-project of w:WP:COMPUTING. I think PageAssessments wasn't meant to support these sort of sub-sub-projects. Anyway I was able to make it work.

While I'm happy to help, I should point out that w:User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages config.json was meant to be community-maintained. With the new version of the bot deployed, it's probably a safe assumption that if a report isn't generated, it's due to some sort of misconfiguration. I'm going to work on improving documentation, in particular the process of renaming WikiProjects, since people seem to overlook that they may be breaking assessment data. Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Error on Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms/Popular pages

Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglo-Saxon Kingdoms/Popular pages shows an average of 32 page views a day for en:Alfred the Great. The correct figure according to the pageview analysis is 3,919! Dudley Miles (talk) 07:38, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Popular pages on ENWP: update assessment colours

Can the popular pages listings please use the revised assessment colours that are currently in use? See en:Template:Class/colour and en:Template:Importance/colour. PC78 (talk) 15:34, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

This actually comes from XTools! I have updated the configuration accordingly. Thanks, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 02:14, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect page being updated

Please instruct the bot to stop updating en:Wikipedia:WikiProject 24/Popular pages as the page has been moved to en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/24 task force/Popular pages. --Gonnym (talk) 16:38, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Also en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Hollyoaks/Popular pages instead of en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Hollyoaks task force/Popular pages. --Gonnym (talk) 00:59, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Done Just so you know, requested changes are better made using {{edit fully-protected}} on the talk page. I have updated the banner at the top of this page to reflect this. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 01:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

WikiProject Newspapers

I would like to have a Popular Pages listing for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Newspapers showing the 500 most popular pages. There is a page for the contents, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Newspapers/Popular_pages

User:G._Moore User talk:G._Moore 06:24, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Done, see w:Special:Permalink/941613069#WikiProject Newspapers. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 17:09, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

en:Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles includes set indices, when it is not supposed to include disambiguations

Hi! en:Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles is a cool article for finding old stuff to maybe fix. According to the comment at the top, it is a

List of 500 articles that not been edited in the longest time, ignoring redirects and disambiguation pages.

However, it includes a ton of set indices, which are almost exactly like disambiguations. Could it be made to ignore articles in en:Category:All set index articles or using en:Template:SIA to make the list have less things that are basically dull disambiguations, please? Thanks! DemonDays64 (talk) 14:37, 1 March 2020 (UTC) (please ping on reply)

Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles is forgotten?

en:Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles hasn't been updated all decade, and typically it was updated biweekly or so. Could this be checked on? --Awkwafaba (talk) 18:51, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

ENWP: Page count by namespace

The weekly report at en:Wikipedia:Database reports/Page count by namespace has not been updated since mid-December. Would someone please have a look at this? Black Falcon (talk) 14:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Duplicate reports...

On WP RandomCanadian (talk) 16:06, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Community Tech/Popular pages bot

Hi, I found that the bot currently only posts on English-language Wikipedia. Is it possible to implement this tool into Chinese-language Wikipedia? Thanks a lot!- Peacearth (talk) at 08:56, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Database reports/Top new article reviewers

This report: Wikipedia:Database reports/Top new article reviewers typically runs automatically twice each day. I happened to notice that it has been malfunction for the past few days, with some fields missing and no updates to quantities. It might be worth checking out. Doomsdayer520 (talk) 18:26, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Cook Islands

I submitted a request for this to get popular pages for Wikipedia:WikiProject Cook Islands, but something seems to have gone wrong. it's a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Polynesia, but I couldn't see how to configure that. Any suggestions?--IdiotSavant (talk) 05:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

I think you figured it out, it needs to have "Name": "Polynesia/WikiProject Cook Islands". I updated the config with this. the wub "?!" 11:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Yoga

@NKohli (WMF):, @MusikAnimal (WMF): Hi, I see that the bot just completed its monthly run, but it didn't create w:Wikipedia:WikiProject Yoga/Popular pages. I've created an empty page there now - can that really be necessary - and would much like to see it populated. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:52, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Looks like this has worked now. the wub "?!" 11:19, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes (whether the empty page did the job, or this request, I can't say), and I've successfully requested an increase to 500 so the list covers the key articles: there are far more than one might have supposed, as the term has more or less disjoint meanings in India and in the West. Logically that'd mean two WikiProjects but there doesn't seem to be any enthusiasm for going that way. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:52, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Bot or not-a-bot

My Wikipedia watchlist preferences are set to ignore bot edits, but your edits show up. Please can you fix? --109.181.154.87 08:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

109, non registered users cant use watch lists - so not sure what you are referring to. Not all edits from an account with bot access should be flagged as bot edits , for examples edits that are actually of interest to page watchers such as the publishing of a new report. Can you point to some specific edits you think are problematic? — xaosflux ^Talk 10:53, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorting

It would be very nice if the Importance and Assessment columns would sort logically and not alphabetically. YBG (talk) 14:27, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Popular pages - recent entries

Noting that entries after #864 on the config do not get monthly updates and were missed in the June and July rounds. Writing, Science Policy, Lanka Premier League, Wildfire, Samoa, Tonga, Education in India, East Anglia, Poetry, Television Stations, Radio Stations, Emmerdale, Fashion, Squatting, Go and Ukraine are not getting updates. Any chance of a fix or having these updates generated? (Please also ping me at enwiki) Sammi Brie (talk) 14:23, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Largest (size) talk pages; either for project or category?

I would like to monitor my projects (and/or their top category) for talk page size; to enable targeting Talk pages that need archiving?
I also thought we could get Traffic by project? Mjquinn id (talk) 20:30, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Notice about proposed deletions

G'day, the bot is repeating notifications made in January about proposed deletions. See en:Talk:Operation Uzice for an example. Not sure why this is happening? Peacemaker67 (talk) 06:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Bot not notifying about Commons images

I've not yet seen the bot notifying communities about Commons images nominated for deletion. Is there something wrong with the bot here? George Ho (talk) 16:10, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

@AEzell (WMF):. — xaosflux ^Talk 18:04, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Ahh, that staffer is gone. Has anyone taken over this task? — xaosflux ^Talk 18:05, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

@George Ho and Xaosflux: It is working, see its recent changes, for example this is a recent post on English Wikipedia. —Sam Wilson 00:15, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Yet the bot hasn't sent notifications in talk pages lately, Sam. --George Ho (talk) 01:02, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

You're right, I wasn't looking at the dates closely enough. @MusikAnimal: you're more familiar with this than I am, can you have a look? Sam Wilson 01:14, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. We're looking into this now. You can follow phab:T295938 for updates. — MusikAnimal ^talk 22:04, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Fixed! That was quite a learning curve for me, but I think moving forward I have a good understanding of how to debug and fix this bot. — MusikAnimal ^talk 01:45, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Notification about a seven year old discussion

This notification (also here) points to a deletion discussion from 2015. Is something wrong? --Muhandes (talk) 12:13, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

That is bizarre, and not the first I've heard of this issue. I'll try to look into it soon. Thanks for the letting us know, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 20:51, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Popular pages bot on Portuguese Wikipedia

@MusikAnimal (WMF): I am a member of the Project More Theory of History on the Wiki and the Project team has a strong interest in creating a Popular Page on the Portuguese-speaking Wikipedia. It will help us a lot to make the content in Theory of History more visible to the volunteers. Should be possible to use this tool on pt.Wiki? Could the code be adapted to do this task in a short term?

I appreciate any help. --Danielly Campos Dias (talk) 20:23, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate notifications

See [15] for an example... RandomCanadian (talk) 19:23, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

set-up on mrwiki

Hello.
Would it be possible to set this bot up on Marathi wikipedia (mrwiki) for forgotten articles? It is a small project, with only ~85,000 articles. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

pinging @MusikAnimal and Xaosflux: —usernamekiran (talk) 20:17, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran Can do! We just need translations. If you are comfortable making a pull request on GitHub, please do so to the i18n.py file. Specifically, for the "forgotten articles" report we need the following messages: reports_base_url, summary, forgotten-articles-desc, forgotten-articles-title, forgotten-articles-last-edited, and forgotten-articles-editcount, translating from the English messages. If you are not comfortable with GitHub, you can provide those translations here and I will add them for you. Best, — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:23, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: will do. But first I will have to get consensus for these wordings. I have started the work on it in my personal repository, I will soon start a discussion at mrwiki's village pump with all the translated material. As soon as it is decided there, I will make the pull request. —usernamekiran (talk) 18:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: I proposed changes on github, I also created a blank page at mr:विकिपीडिया:डेटाबेस अहवाल/विस्मरणातील लेख to avoid confusion later. Also, on mr wikipedia, we don't get notifications on pings being sent successfully. Is it an easy/small thing to do? Or should I let it be as it is? Thanks a lot for your help. —usernamekiran (talk) 07:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran I don't see a pull request from you at https://github.com/wikimedia/database-reports/pulls. Do you need help with that? Or I can update our repo on your behalf :)

I'm not sure what the relevance of successful pings on mr.wikipedia is to this bot. Was that an unrelated question? You should be getting notifications (the wiki shouldn't matter, I don't think...). If you're not, I would report this issue on Phabricator task, adding the Notifications tag. An engineer or product manager should then eventually review it. — MusikAnimal ^talk 21:34, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: lol, sorry for being concise. Yes, the notification issue was a an unrelated question. I am not sure how to make a request on phabricator though. I had once followed the task of creation of "create log" on phabricator, but nothing more than that. It would be appreciated a lot if you made that request on phabricator. I definitely made a successful pull request this time :-D
—usernamekiran (talk) 16:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: Hi. I apologise, but I just realised that the notification on successful pings was disabled in my preferences. I dont remember turning it off though. Also, based on past interactions with other editors, I think it is turned off by default. I apologise again. —usernamekiran (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Just a heads up that I'm waiting to get a different pull request merged before deploying this bot.

@Usernamekiran I did notice mr:विकिपीडिया:सांगकाम्या/विनंत्या. Do we need prior approval for this bot? I do not believe we need the bot flag, since the bot will only edit once a week. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:33, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: I am not sure if we need the approval, because like you said, it will edit only once a week, and that too in its own userspace. Getting a bot flag will also hide it from the recent changes, without the flag, many editors would see/find out about the reports. Still, pinging @अभय नातू: for clearing up the doubt. Also, I think the report should be updated once or twice a month, weekly would be a lot for a smaller community/active editors. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:49, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran and MusikAnimal:, The reason for a bot-flag here would be to stop cluttering recent-changes with edits being run in user's (bot's) own userspace, regardless of the frequency of edits. Obviously, if the # of rc entries are limited (say less than 20 per week), leaving them visible in recent-changes is a non-issue. Let me know if this answers that question. -- अभय नातू (talk) 23:11, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

That's all I need to hear, thank you! The bot is now running and just posted its first report. @Usernamekiran Please review and make sure this looks okay: mr:विकिपीडिया:डेटाबेस अहवाल/विस्मरणातील लेख. The schedule right now is it to run at 00:15 UTC every Friday. — MusikAnimal ^talk 00:38, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: Hi. I reviewed the summaries/edit, and everything looks good. Thanks a lot for your help :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 04:05, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

WikiProject Libraries - Popular pages not showing on bot

Hi - was wondering if anyone could help me get the User:Community Tech bot/Popular pages to show the popular pages from the WikiProject Libraries? Thanks for any help you can give Jamzze (talk) 21:53, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Sortable tables for popular page reports

Feature request: smarter sorting of the last two table columns in popular page reports.

These currently sort the “assessment” and “importance” columns alphabetically. But the data has an intrinsic sort order that should be used. For assessment, that is FA, FL, A, GA, B, C, Start, Stub, and List, probably followed by all of the non-assessment classes like Current, Future, &c, in alphabetical order, and finally NA and Unknown. For importance, Top, High, Mid, Low, Bottom, Unknown, and NA.

An invisible sort key can be added to each wiki table cell using the data-sort-value="" parameter to control the sort priority, as explained in w:en:Help:Sorting#Specifying a sort key for a cell.

Correct sort order is listed in w:en:Wikipedia:Content assessment and w:en:Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Criteria#Priority of topic. —Michael Z. 2022-05-20 21:07 z 21:07, 20 May 2022 (UTC)

Database report

Tracked in Phabricator:
Task T318823

Usually this bot is very reliable but no en:Wikipedia:Database reports/Orphaned talk pages tonight. It's typically issued at 05:01 UTC nightly but tonight, nothing. Liz (talk) 05:15, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Hey Liz, just letting you know we've seen this — poking MusikAnimal as he'll be best placed to take a look ~TheresNoTime-WMF (talk) 12:21, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Ah! It's the templatelinks normalization (phab:T299417). Thanks for the ping; I'll work on fixing the bot. — MusikAnimal ^talk 14:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

This should now be fixed and run normally at the usual time tomorrow. When I ran the query just now I got zero results (which seems to often be the case), so there's no such pages waiting for G6 at this time. — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:44, 28 September 2022 (UTC)