Stewards/elections 2009/statements/Mardetanha
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- Languages: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Personal info: Hi! I am the user Mardetanha, and I am originally from the Persian Wikipedia.
I have been working on other projects and I've got a lot of crosswiki experience that will help me be a good steward.
I am an administrator on Persian Wikipedia and all other Persian projects (which includes fawikiquote, fawikisource, fawikibooks, fawiktionary), as well as on commons. I am also a meta and incubator bureaucrat and sysop.
I am part of SWMT and fight with vandals across the Wikimedia Foundation's wikis. This requires collaborating with many communities. I also hold Global rollbacker, which also requires collaboration. I have been in charge of the fawiki and fawiki admins mailing lists, and I have OTRS access to help with some questions. I've been helping out in more and more ways and I hope I can get your support. If the community accepts me as a steward, I would be active on steward-related matters, and more importantly it will help me fight cross-wiki vandals more efficiently.
I am 25 years old and am studying to be a computer engineer.
- Dillər: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Şəxsi informasiya: Salam! Mən - Fars Vikipediyasından Mardetanha-yam.
Mən eləcə də layihələrdə fəaliyyət göstərmişəm. Layihələrarası bu fəaliyyətim mənə böyük təcrübə qazandırıb, bu təcrübə isə mənə layiqli stüard olmağa imkan verə bilər.
Mən Fars Vikipediyasının, eləcə də farsdilli digər bütün layihələrin, (o cümlədən farsca VikiSitatın, farsca VikiMənbənin,farsca VikiKitabın,farsca VikiLüğətin), bundan başqa VikiCommonsun idarəçisiyəm. Mən həm də Metada və İnqubatorda idarəçi və bürokratam.
- Sprachen: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Informationen zur Person: Hi! Ich bin Benutzer Mardetanha und bin ursprünglich von der persischen Wikipedia.
Ich habe in anderen Projekten gearbeitet und dabei viel Crosswiki-Erfahrung erhalten, die mir helfen wird ein guter Steward zu sein.
Ich bin ein Administrator bei der Persischen Wikipedia und allen anderen persischen Projekten (welche fawikiquote, fawikisource, fawikibooks und fawiktionary umfassen), zudem auch auf Commons. Ich bin außerdem ein Meta- und Incubator-Bürokrat und Admin.
Ich bin Mitglied des SWMT und kämpfe gegen Vandalen in allen Wikis der Wikimedia Foundation. Dafür ist die Fähigkeit zur Zusammenarbeit mit vielen Gemeinschaften notwendig. Ich habe auch die Rechte für globalen Rollback, der ebenfalls Zusammenarbeit erfordert. Ich bin verantwortlich für die Mailinglisten von fawiki und fawiki-Admins, und ich habe OTRS-Zugriff um bei der Klärung einiger Fragen zu helfen. Ich habe auf immer mehr Arten zu helfen versucht und hoffe, dass ich deine Unterstützung bekomme. Falls mich die Gemeinschaft als Steward akzeptiert, wäre ich vor allem in typischen Steward-Aktivitäten tätig, und es würde mir, was am wichtigsten ist, helfen, Crosswiki-Vandalismus noch effizienter zu bekämpfen.
Ich bin 25 Jahre alt und studiere Computer Engineering.
- Idiomas: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Información personal: ¡Hola! Soy el usuario Mardetanha. Tengo 25 años y estudio ingeniería informática. Mi wiki de origen es la Farsi Wikipedia.
He estado trabajando en otros proyectos. Fruto de dicho trabajo he ganado mucha experiencia en el trabajo cross-wiki lo que me ayudaría a ser un buen steward.
Soy un administrador/bibliotecario de la Wikipedia en Farsi y en todos los demás proyectos en Persa (los cuales son fawikiquote,fawikisource,fawikibooks,fawiktionary), y en commons. También en meta e incubator soy burócrata y administrador/bibliotecario.
Son integrante activo del SWMT, un equipo que trata de luchar contra el vandalismo en todos los proyectos de la Fundación Wikimedia. Este trabajo requiere colaborar con muchas otras comunidades al mismo tiempo; asimismo poseo la herramienta de reversión global.
He sido administrador de las listas de correo de fawiki y de la lista de biblios de fawaki y también poseo acceso al sistema OTRS. Como pueden observar he estado ayudando de muchas maneras y en muchos ámbitos diferentes. Espero poder obtener su apoyo en esta nominación. Muchas gracias.
- Langues: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Renseignements personnels: Salut ! Je suis l'utilisateur Mardetanha et je viens de la wikipédia en langue fārsi (persane).
J'ai travaillé sur beaucoup d'autres projets et j'ai une bonne expérience interwiki qui m'aidera à être un bon steward. Je suis administrateur de la wikipédia en langue fārsi et de tous les autres projets persans (parmi lesquels fawikiquote, fawikisource, fawikibooks, fawiktionary) et aussi de Commons. Je suis aussi bureaucrate et administrateur de Meta et d'Incubator.
Je suis membre de SWMT et je combats les vandales sur les wikis de la Wikimedia Foundation. Cela requiert de collaborer avec un grand nombre de personnes. Je suis aussi un Global rollbacker, ce qui demande aussi d'agir en commun. J'ai été responsable de la liste de diffusion de fawiki et de celle de ses administrateurs ; j'ai accès à l'OTRS pour apporter mon aide sur certains points. J'ai résolu des problèmes de façon les plus diverses et j'espère obtenir votre soutien. Si l'ensemble des utilisateurs m'accepte comme steward, je participerai activement aux tâches habituelles des stewards et, le plus important, je serai en mesure de combattre les vandales inter-wiki plus efficacement.
J'ai 25 ans et je poursuis des études d'ingénieur en informatique.
- Lingue: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Informazioni personali: Salve! Sono l'utente Mardetanha, e la mia home wiki è la Wikipedia in lingua farsi.
Collaboro anche su altri progetti, ritengo di avere una certa esperienza tra le varie wiki che mi aiuterà ad essere un valido steward.
Sono amministratore sulla Wikipedia in lingua farsi e su tutti gli altri progetti persiani (tra cui fawikiquote,fawikisource,fawikibooks,fawiktionary), così come su commons. Sono inoltre burocrate e amministratore su meta e incubator.
Faccio parte del team SWMT e lotto contro i vandali sulle varie Wikimedia wiki. Ciò richiede collaborazione con numerose comunità. Ho ottenuto anche il Global rollback, anch'esso richiede collaborazione. Sono stato gestore delle mailing list fawiki e fawiki-admin, ho inoltre l'accesso a OTRS per fornire supporto su alcune richieste. Ho cercato di rendermi utile via via in modo crescente e spero di poter avere il vostro supporto.
Ho 25 anni e studio ingegneria informatica.
- 言語: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- 候補者の情報: こんにちは!Mardetanhaと申します。ペルシア語版ウィキペディアの出身です。
私は[1]で作業をしており、良いスチュワードとなる助けとなるような複数ウィキ間での作業の経験がたくさんあります。
私はウィキペディアの管理者をはじめとした多くのペルシア語版プロジェクト(ウィキクォート、ウィキソース、ウィキブックス、ウィクショナリー)と、コモンズで管理者をしています。メタとインキュベータのビューロクラットと管理者もしています。
SWMTに参加し、ウィキメディア財団のウィキ全体にわたって荒らしと戦っています。これには多くのコミュニティとの共同作業が必要です。同様にコミュニティとの共同作業が必要となる全ウィキ差し戻しの権限も持っております。 私はペルシア語版ウィキペディアのメーリングリストと、その管理者用のメーリングリストの責任者であり、質問に対応するためOTRSのアクセスも持っています。私はますます多くの方法で手助けをしてきましたので、あなたのご支援も頂ければと思います。
私は25歳で、コンピュータ・エンジニアになるための勉強をしています。
- Taalvaardigheid: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Persoonlijke informatie: Hallo! Ik ben gebruiker Mardetanha, en ik kom oorspronkelijk van de Perzische (Farsi) Wikipedia.
Ik heb gewerkt op vele andere projecten en ik heb er veel ervaring opgedaan die mij zal helpen om een goede steward te zijn.
Ik ben een beheerder op de Perzische (Farsi) Wikipedia en alle andere Perzische projecten (dit houdt in: fawikiquote,fawikisource,fawikibooks,fawiktionary), en ook op commons. Ik ben ook een beheerder en bureaucraat op meta en incubator.
Ik maak deel uit van het SWMT en vecht tegen vandalen op de vele wikimedia foundation's wikis. Dit vereist samenwerking met vele gemeenschappen. Ik ben ook een Global rollbacker, dat ook samenwerking vereist. Ik ben moderator op de mailinglijst van fawiki en de fawiki-beheerders, en ik heb OTRS-toegang om te helpen met vragen. Ik heb al op verschillende manieren geholpen en ik hoop dat ik uw steun kan krijgen.
Ik ben 25 jaar en studeer voor computeringenieur.
- Języki: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Informacje osobiste: Cześć! Jestem Mardetanha i pochodzę z perskiej Wikipedii.
Edytowałem w innych projektach. Mam więc dużo doświadczenia międzyprojektowego, które pomoże mi być dobrym stewardem.
Jestem administratorem perskiej Wikipedii i wszystkich innych perskich projektów czyli: fa.wikicytatów, fa.wikiźródeł, fa.wikibooks, fa.wikisłownika, jak też commons. Jestem również biurokratą i administratorem na meta i w inkubatorze.
Jestem członkiem SWMT i zwalczam wandalizmy na wszystkich projektach Fundacji Wikimedia. Wymaga to współpracy ze wszystkimi społecznościami. Mam również uprawnienia do globalnego rewertowania, które też wymaga wymaga współpracy. Opiekowałem się listami dyskusyjnymi fawiki i fawiki admins. Mam również dostęp do OTRS. Staram się pomagać na coraz więcej sposobów i mam nadzieję dostać Twoje wsparcie.
Mam 25 lat i studiuję by być inżynierem informatykiem.
- Línguas: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Informações pessoais: Oi! Sou o usuário Mardetanha. Minha wiki de origem é a Wikipedia Persa.
Estou trabalhando em outros projetos. Fruto desse trabalho, ganhei muita experiência no trabalho cross-wiki, o que me ajudaria a ser um bom steward.
Sou administrador da Wikipédia em Persa e em todos os demais projetos em Persa (entre eles fawikiquote,fawikisource,fawikibooks,fawiktionary) e no commons. Também no meta e incubator sou burocrata e administrador.
Faço parte da SWMT e combato os vândalos nas várias wikis da Wikimedia Foundation. Isto requer a colaboração com diversas comunidades. Também sou um Global rollbacker, que também pede colaboração. Tenho estado a cargo da lista de mensagens da fawiki e dos administradores da fawiki, e tenho acesso ao OTRS para ajudar com algumas perguntas. Venho ajudando de várias maneiras, e eu espero poder receber o seu apoio.
Tenho 25 anos e estou estudando para ser um engenheiro da computação.
- Языки: fa, az, en-3, tr-2, ar-1, mzn-1, glk-1, bqi-1, tk-1 (Persian, Azeri, English, Turkish, Arabic, Mazandari, Gilaki, Bakhtiari, Turkmen)
- Личная информация: Привет! Я - Mardetanha, и я изначально из Википедии на Фарси.
Я также работал во других проектах и у меня есть большой опыт работы между разделами, который поможет мне быть хорошим стюардом.
Я являюсь администратором Википедии на Фарси и во всех остальных персидских проектах (в которые входят викицитатник на фарси, викитека на фарси,викиучебник на фарси,викисловарь на фарси), и администратором Викисклада. Также, я являюсь администратором и бюрократом на Мете и в Инкубаторе.
Questions → Stewards/elections 2009/Questions
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[edit]- Support — Aitias // discussion 00:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support —DerHexer (Talk) 00:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC) Say no to canvassing.
- Support --Meno25 00:05, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- --94.121.245.150 00:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)...
- Please sign in to vote. Majorly talk 00:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- --94.121.245.150 00:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)...
- Support Strong support PeterSymonds 00:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Memty 00:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Thogo (talk) 00:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Good candidate. Majorly talk 00:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC) Abstaining.
- Support — vvv 00:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support No problems here. Razorflame 00:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support A featured user :) Amir 00:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Puntori 00:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support —Anonymous DissidentTalk 00:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Look at all those languages and that experience. NuclearWarfare 00:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Cbrown1023 talk 00:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mr.Z-man 00:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Chick Bowen 00:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support yes. Micha L. Rieser 00:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Az1568 (talk) 00:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Herr Kriss 00:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Kalan ? 01:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Support Sí/Yes/はい. --Taichi - (あ!) 01:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Change my vote... --Taichi - (あ!) 03:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)Normally to much jobs - but a Steward with these languages would be good. Marcus Cyron 01:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Sorry, but it seems, there are too much problems. Marcus Cyron 12:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Yes. Seems to know what stewardship is for. Romaine 01:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Nishkid64 (talk) 01:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Highly collaborative, excellent experience with cross-wiki vandalism (and now spam too) - overall a very well-rounded candidate. — Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 01:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support — neuro(talk) 01:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --FollowTheMedia 01:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Shizhao 02:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Durova 02:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Ruzgar 02:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support bibliomaniac15 03:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support As someone introduced in his work for a year, I may say just the best about him :) --Millosh 04:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Cecil 04:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- AnakngAraw 04:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Ciphers 05:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Yes. We need RTF stewards :) bastique demandez! 06:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Avjoska 06:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Yes --Shipmaster 07:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Achates 07:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- Mercy (☎|✍) 08:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support For languages. Sebleouf 08:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support ok. User:Elfix − Elfix × talk (fr) 09:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Otourly 09:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support. I think, it will be very useful to have a steward-polyglot (especially for Turkic Wikipedias). LexArt 10:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 600 edits on any project by November 1, and either an SUL account or a link to that account on your userpage. You must also have 50 edits since August 1 and not be blocked here. ST47 19:25, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Support Anyway, I welcome more non-European tongues onto WM projects. --Hatukanezumi 10:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Wing 10:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support →Na·gy 11:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Vyk 11:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Yann 11:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --MannMaus 11:56, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Góngora (T•ES) 12:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support feydey 12:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Need reliable stewards in Central Asian languages, and this user appears trustworthy and has contributed well insofar as my review capacity extends. Good luck. Orderinchaos 14:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Por supuesto que sí —Dferg (meta-w:es:) 14:24, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --MF-W 14:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Smooth O 15:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support DarkoNeko 15:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Zil 15:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Fabexplosive The archive man 15:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mardetanha will be, for lack of a better word, a perfect steward. — Albert Krantz¿? 16:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support ----Erkan Yilmaz 16:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support iAlex 17:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Farzaaaad2000 18:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- SPQRobin (inc!) 18:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- TRD 18:52, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Ahonc 19:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support it is very intersting some user expressing their worry about iranian user whom just have small memory about Iran which was in their childhood. i do mean user alefbet and kavehahangar.they both live out of Iran they have mentioned there in their talk pages.so at the end Mardetanha was the really competent admin in Farsi Wikipedia and many other project.--دانقولا 19:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't stated anything about where I live. Alefbe 23:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Vusal1981 21:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Except a block that seemed a little harsh for me, I didn't see any other "bad things" from him. So, I support him. Mrostam 21:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support-- i knew mardetanha from wiki fa, and i know this election will profite wikipedia to move to place that it should be, mardetanha is a good person and i do bleave himNatanaeel83 21:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Nemo 21:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Being a Sysop or Bureaucrat is a bit different in fa wiki. We have too many unsolved issues and complicated problems and no one can solve them easily neither Mardetanha nor anyone else. Every decision will make some users content and the others one angry. I am sure that no one can be elected as a Bureaucrat in fa wiki in near future. I think Mardetanha is a very useful user in Mediawiki projects. He spends his time in front of computer to solve the problems with patience. I prefer to evaluate him with his activities and contributions in whole Wikimedia projects. His is the member of too many projects and even gainig negative point in fa wiki still keep the average above standards. In other sister fa wiki projects he started a revolution and he recommenced abandoned projects. If he weren't a member of fa wiki projects he wouldn't face the opposition. Too many open projects bear too many oppositions and difficulties. Regarding above descriptions his average point is high and he is eligible to help this project more.--Kamix 21:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support i know mardetanha from Farsi Wikipedia and i have worked with him a lot .opposers claim was very funny and ridiculous , mardetanha is a asset on fawiki--Iroony 21:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support He is one of the most active admins in Farsi Wikipedia. There are always a lot of controversies and confrontations in wikifa. It means when an admin acts, say blocking a user, he makes someone feel bad about him. I do not know if there is any policy to ban users recently blocked to vote here, but this is a fact that should be considered when concluding, since some of the users opposed here are blocked recently.--محمد.رضا 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Who is blocked? Mardetanha blocked me a few days ago (for three days) and other users and admins considered his act as unjustifiable. His action was cancelled by User:Behaafarid (the only elected bureaucrat of FaWiki), mentioning that there was no reason to block [2]. Alefbe 22:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- It is not just about you. For your case, I was the first one who objected to MardeTanha[3]. As I said there are always lots of conflicts in wikifa and there are just few admins. Among these few admins just few acts in serious cases and others prefer to just block IPs to not get into trouble. My comment here was not aiming to nullify your (and others') vote, but to show the difficult situation of wikifa. By the way, in your case Behaafarid made mistake too by doing wheel war. --محمد.رضا 15:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Who is blocked? Mardetanha blocked me a few days ago (for three days) and other users and admins considered his act as unjustifiable. His action was cancelled by User:Behaafarid (the only elected bureaucrat of FaWiki), mentioning that there was no reason to block [2]. Alefbe 22:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Martin H. 23:07, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support sure --Jan eissfeldt 23:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mardetanha is a valuable contributer in many Wikimedia projects.--ماني 01:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC) (the same as User:Mani1).
- Support. My general experience with Mardetanha both on en.wiki and meta has been extremely positive.
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05:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC) - Support Mardtanha is a very hardworking editor in Farsi Wikipedia. He has contributed a lot to the sister projects of the Farsi Wikipedia. Yes, he does have some mistakes in his record. But I think it would add to the diversity of the system. He is familiar with what is expected from him as a Steward; he is fluent in several languages, spends a lot of time on Wikipedia projects. Good luck!!! --دوستدار ويکيپديا 09:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Candidate has technical depth and experience across projects and languages. He's also displayed an appropriate temperament in the face of vindictive opposition.--Shunpiker 09:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Support Well, he has a high team spirit and a descent derive to improve the wiki projects and a good soul of both sympathy and motivation for helping others. He is a good choice for such a role Alifakoor 10:17, 2 February 2009 (UTC)(User is not eligible for this election. -- Shunpiker 03:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC))- Comment It's really sad that some users in fa.wikipedia even try to make Mardetanha's election a "Nationalistic Issue". Some even are going as far as calling people who oppose him "Traitors and low lifes". In other instance Alifakoor even admitted in fa.wikipedia that he is not eligible to vote due to lack of contributions but he DID cast his vote here despite knowledge. These are unaaceptable. I hope respected stewards pay attention to these violations. --Kaaveh Ahangar 20:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support and gl!--Nick1915 - all you want 10:55, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Uwe Gille 11:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I trust the user. Seems good. --FiliP × 12:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --OosWesThoesBes 14:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Szalakóta 14:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Very trustworthy user with a lot of experience. We need him.-- BlueDevil Talk 15:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support To cancel out these retarded human rights oppose votes. Jaranda | wat's sup 17:32, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support He deserves it. Amirreza 18:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Support, it is important to cover all linguistic areas. RyanGerbil10 18:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support (re-recasting my vote). Upon further investigation, I conclude that this "anti-fundamentalism" campaign below is just a substenceless propaganda organised by users having personal issues with the nominee. --Ivan Štambuk 19:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- See User talk:Ivan Štambuk for Mardetanha's allegations (to discredit oppose votes), and my comment about those allegations. Alefbe 09:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I'm a involved in two Persian wiki projects and I working with him for long time, But I didn’t see him doing bad thinking or making wrong decisions. I think mardetanha is a good admin because he didn’t mix friendship with wikipedia policy. He is very good in blocking rude users. Say no to canvassing.--Komeil 4life 19:49, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Ralf Roletschek 20:21, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support - Support, Bjoertvedt In spite og the alledged dangers to his life, I support an Irani member of the crew.
- Support Wojciech Pędzich Talk 20:59, 2 February 2009 (UTC) In spite of the "against votes I'm inclined to sit here for the sake of the cooperation I've been enjoying with Mardetanha.
- Support Awersowy 21:18, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Rave 22:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I feel convinced, so I change my vote. But as said- You should answer/replay here so more people can understand some situations from your home wiki. Vuvar1 22:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support HBR 00:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Ali 03:37, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Alex Pereira falaê 12:39, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support After thorough thinking and weighing the oppsing arguments, i think he is a devoted wikimedian, a trustworthy one (from my own experience) the 1984-like dangers are exagerated. --Histolo2 14:19, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Mirzali 17:28, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support, trustworthy, helpfull, active and fair. Has what it takes to be a good Steward. --Tarawneh 18:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 21:57, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I'm Mailer Diablo and I approve this candidate! - 22:10, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Very hard call given concerns about the wisdom of giving someone who supports a government with a history of suppressing internet free speech personal data about wikimedia editors; nonetheless I think this is ultimately about trust, and having looked through a few of his contributions, I think I do trust him. AndrewRT 22:26, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --HalanTul 23:07, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Obelix 23:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --He is very polite, friendly and professional. Furthermore, he sis very democratic, tolerant and openminded!! I support!!! مبتدئ 00:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- -- Support. --Kamranmirza 00:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 600 edits on any project by November 1, and either an SUL account or a link to that account on your userpage. You must also have 50 edits since August 1 and not be blocked here. ST47 00:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support A candidate I have perceived his competence. --Raayen 01:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Some of the oppose make want to puke Moez talk 02:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Support Amouzandeh--77.20.69.179 09:49, 4 February 2009 (UTC)please log-in--Nick1915 - all you want 09:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)- Support Amouzandeh----77.20.69.179 23:07, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 600 edits on any project by November 1, and either an SUL account or a link to that account on your userpage. You must also have 50 edits since August 1 and not be blocked here. ST47 23:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)(
- Support He is a full time worker, honost and alone man!--تسلیم 12:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Branka France 12:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --D tom 12:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --misos 15:07, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Djordjes (talk) 15:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC) (Taking back edit from edit conflict, ref; Millosh 15:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC))
- Support --GerardM 15:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Mardetanha does everything he says he does. He is also a valued contributor to Betawiki. It was his personal involvement that got Commonist localised. Mardetanha has contributed a large amount of images of Iran. To the people who are "afraid" of Mardetanha living in Iran, this type of scaremongering results in a bias that is IMHO completely unacceptable.
- About the allegation of scaremongering, please see this discussion about an old email conversiation. Alefbe 11:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support SpeedyGonsales 15:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support OK. --Goodmorningworld 16:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--S.sanja 17:27, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Roberta F. 17:46, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Evertype 18:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Nikola 20:15, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support, I like his editions in Persian wikipedia. هرویسپه 21:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support, a good candidate. About the issues he has no control over (where he lives); I leave that part up for the Wikimedia Foundations Board of Trustees, as this is something they should figure out, not random comments from people that do not know the candidate. Laaknor 22:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I know him from Persian Wiki. He is a very responsible and honest person. He has been a great asset for Persian Wiki. I hope that steward's responsibilities does not keep him away from Persian Wiki. --Eh kia 22:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support PDD 01:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Blnguyen 03:03, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Caiaffa 03:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mardetanha has very much helped me in meta. Thanks for all. --Irada 10:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Саша Стефановић 11:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support ...Aurora... 12:08, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support, our couse. ~Innvs: 12:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Zeljko 13:45, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Support The stuff about the Iranian govt accessing his account is paranoid rubbish. I would expect wikipedians to be more informed. -- Gramscis cousin 15:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)Ineligible. Maedin\talk 12:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support highky trusted user. abf /talk to me/ 16:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Strong support - This user has language skills that will be very helpful for stewards, and has had a strong focus on meta projects like the Incubator, Meta and Commons. This user is respected and trusted, and is very familiar with projects of all size (from Sysop of incubator to Rollbacker on enwiki), and all types ('pedia, books, source, quote, 'tionary).
Please note: Mardetanha has recently written User:Mardetanha/recusal which goes a long way to preventing the account being hijacked, and will ensure that even if the tools do fall into the wrong hands, they will be taken away as soon as they try to use the tools against Iranians. John Vandenberg 18:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)- If you are commenting about my argument, that recusal doesn't change anything of that argument. See this discussion. In short, the delay between starting the abuse (by him or someone on behalf of him) and detecting it and removing his steward access can endanger real lives of many Iranian users of all Wikipedias, including English Wikipedia and Persian Wikipedia and Kurdish Wikipedia (even if that delay is less that one hour). Please also see this. Alefbe 19:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Alfbe, I am annoyed at how you scan the yes voters trying to convince them in every way you can to change their vote, you have voted, and you have made your point of view very clear to everyone, I consider running after voters this way a form of harassment. Please stop. --Shipmaster 19:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't comment about votes (I don't suggest anyone to change their votes). I just comment about allegations against me or comments that claim they have discredited my arguments. Alefbe 19:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Alfbe, I am annoyed at how you scan the yes voters trying to convince them in every way you can to change their vote, you have voted, and you have made your point of view very clear to everyone, I consider running after voters this way a form of harassment. Please stop. --Shipmaster 19:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- If you are commenting about my argument, that recusal doesn't change anything of that argument. See this discussion. In short, the delay between starting the abuse (by him or someone on behalf of him) and detecting it and removing his steward access can endanger real lives of many Iranian users of all Wikipedias, including English Wikipedia and Persian Wikipedia and Kurdish Wikipedia (even if that delay is less that one hour). Please also see this. Alefbe 19:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Goldfinger50 21:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 600 edits on any project by November 1, and either an SUL account or a link to that account on your userpage. You must also have 50 edits since August 1 and not be blocked here. ST47 21:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Goldfinger is president of Wikimedia Serbia (but, without SUL account). I added his details at his user page. --Millosh 09:43, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, you are not eligible to vote this year, you must have had 600 edits on any project by November 1, and either an SUL account or a link to that account on your userpage. You must also have 50 edits since August 1 and not be blocked here. ST47 21:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Masur 00:26, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Red 81 05:49, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Karol007 ✉ 06:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Adi 08:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Gdarin | talk 08:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Hoseyn_1 фTдlk 09:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Olaf 09:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Makarczuk 11:18, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mattwj2002 11:54, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Good profile and opponent arguments are without value --Gdgourou 13:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Astromp 13:07, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Jyothis 13:12, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Јованвб 13:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support PMG 14:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Goldfinger50 14:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Vote already counted. --Millosh 14:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC) --Millosh 14:52, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Goldfinger50 14:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support as Gdgourou. Matma Rex 17:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Szwedzki 19:03, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Although I had some conflict with him, but I think he's great, greater than some other SYSOPs on fa.wiki. --Rooh23 21:04, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Lasta 23:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC) (ex. user Armchoir, SUL in creation) Lasta is my new nick and please control this bullshit which telling me that I can not vote. My vote is valid. Point. --Armchoir 07:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strong support Just because he lives in Iran doesn't mean that he won't be a good steward. Some users that voted against him were quite rude. If they think Iran is bad, wait until they pay attention to Afganistan and Iraq!! --Mystiryder 23:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC) 16:54, 6 February 2009
- Support --Gothika 00:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Tomasz W. Kozłowski 14:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support (+) Hillgentleman 10:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Multilingual. The country one lives in is not a reason not to be a steward. Well-written recusal statement: clearly understands about recusal. ☺Coppertwig(talk) 18:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Well-involved and friendly user. Good addition to the team, possibly. --Aphaia 18:54, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've changed my vote. Bence My Talk 19:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I'm sysop on fa.wiki. He is active admin on fa.wiki and some negative votes are result of personal problem. unfortunately some users with canvassing tried to disrupt the voting and made propaganda against him. ظهیری 21:26, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Amouzandeh----Amouzandeh 23:46, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Daniel73480 11:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Poco a poco 12:04, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Jon Harald Søby 14:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I am local bureaucrat of Farsi wikiquote and I am one the earliest farsi wikipedia users.I have been working with mardetanha for long time I really think he deserves the bit..--Sajad 15:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Bogorm 16:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support willing to change my mind and vote; thanks for responding to my concerns fr33kman t - c 17:30, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support For a good reason. Or maybe a bad one. Or maybe just because I can. Vivaldi 21:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Wiedemann 05:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Bonč 20:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- This user does not have 600 edits before 01 November 2008 (has 336). --micki talk 22:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Чтож не одним английским разделом жива Википедия. ~ 91.77.119.185 22:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Log in to vote. --Millosh 06:16, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Good candidate --Cinik 08:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Mido 08:41, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support As an experienced user in Persian and English Wikipedia, Mardetanha is the best possible candidate for stewardship I believe. He proves to be a hardworking and fair administrator and is active in many wiki projects such as Persian Wikipedia, Wikiquote, Wikisource, Wiktionary, Wikibooks, Wikimedia Commons, English Wikipedia, Meta, and Incubator. He is the only Persian-speaking administrator on the Wikimedia Commons and the only developer of Persian Wikinews in Incubator. He is intolerant towards trolls, but his friendly character assures a warm welcoming and a fair chance for all users. His active participation, general assistance, and co-founding of "Every Day One Article" project resulted in the rapid expansion of Persian Wikipedia. I feel these great contributive qualities can be found in all administrators, but Mardetanha has proven to be more than exceptional to me. --Wayiran 13:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support : trusty candidate. Hégésippe | ±Θ± 14:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Seems good, not convinced by oppose reasons. Davewild 18:19, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support : --BF 18:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC).
- Support ok --Rax 21:09, 10 February 2009 (UTC) fo sure: a qualified user / some of the opposing votes and comments made it a difficult decision, but in the end this candidates statement is convincing me
- Support Good candidate--Larno Man 22:11, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Seems a strong candidate, and central Asian languages useful; as per discussion at User talk:Ivan Štambuk, User:Alefbe seems to be leading a campaign against Mardetanha. Nbarth 02:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mikhailov Kusserow (talk) 03:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- -- lucasbfr talk 09:44, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support. -- Maseltov 12:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Axan.bulut 14:48, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Sortilegus 16:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support appalled at some of the contra comments and reasoning for opposition below. --Diligent 19:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Eminn 16:52, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Alborz Fallah 18:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Thesupermat 09:37, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support - Eclecticology 18:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- --Mayer Bruno 18:55, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Maedin\talk 21:28, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- Harrywad 23:49, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Höyhens 03:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Working as a wikipedia SysOp (if you obey the rules and try to be natural) always ends in displeasure of users.
- In alefbet's case, most of the fa.wiki users were in disagreement with Behaafarid (bureaucrat)’s opinion and behaafarid entered in a wheel war [4], unblocked user and violated the Blocking Policy.
- About Iranian government's possible actions: they already know who I am, where I live, which sites I visit each day and even whom I date in university!
- By getting more access (and tasks to do), Mardetanha will be less active in fa.wiki. This is the reason I doubt about Strong Supporting him ;) -- Meisam 08:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- To be fair, most of the fa.wiki users were in disagreement with the necessity of a block in the first place (i.e. a note on user's talk page would have worked). Although the ground for the block was somewhat flimsy, Behaafarid went too far by denying that any sort of policy violation has occurred.--دوستدار ويکيپديا 07:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Nersy 11:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I am a fa.wikisource admin. As I know him HE will be a great asset for wikimedia projects. So I support him.Pedram.salehpoor 20:11, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- billinghurst 07:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Support Razorflame 07:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)- Please only vote once 8th vote, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 15:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- ~ putnik 23:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support-- Pastorals2007 11:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC) In my own opinion Encyclopedias are founded to gather information for people, to help people think better and act better. So, by defenition they should be void of personal prejudices or political obssessions. I find the statement "disputes on fawiki, fear that Iranian government will gain his access under torture" in the summary of ‘oppose reasons’ somewhat shocking, and also rather unfair. Such claims are not grounded, and have no direct link to what has been claimed. This is not based on a reliable source to give citations from, it’s just a rough personal obsevation, so hardly universally valid. I do belive that Mardetanha is a great asset for wikimedia project, losing him is obviously wikimedia’s loss!
- Yerul (comlink) 18:21, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Stef Mec 19:47, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Grandmaster 08:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Роман Беккер 11:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Good Luck! ;-) --Filnik 15:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
- Aleksandrit 17:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support e.c. 21:32, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support - Punx 07:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support sanchooli --80.191.243.201 11:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Excellent candidate. Will make a good Steward. --Apteva 14:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Grebenkov 18:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Xashaiar 18:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Kanonkas 20:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I give him a chance. Good luck! Dorgan 20:54, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support. Strong Support --Kamranmirza 23:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--mzn:user:فیروز--04:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support--Mstislavl 09:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support I know the guy quite well and I know he will do the same good job as Darkoneko. Diti (talk to the penguin) 20:55, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support-- Node ue 21:02, 21 February 2009 (UTC) 伊朗民族到了最危险的时候,每个人被迫着发出最后的吼声。起来!起来!起来!
- Support --OrsolyaVirág 21:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support --Сдобников Андрей 21:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support Mardetanha is trustworthy--همان 22:50, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support -- Avi 23:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Support : As a former admin and bureaucrat of Persian Wikipedia, I believe that Mardetanha can be trusted for the role of Stewardship. Though we never had the chance to work together as admins, but according to my observations his efforts for the neutrality of the content (which is something quite hard to achieve in fa) and raising trust and confidence in users can not be ignored. Apparently he has the support of stewards community, too. Also, I should mention that some of the statements brought forward as support for negative votes, as far as I know are totally out of the real context, tangible to neutral users of fa. I hope as a steward Mardetanha can gain even more trust from the fa community as well as stewards community. --Shervin Afshar 23:57, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
No
[edit]- Strongly Oppose there are several reasons against electing user:Mardetanha as a Steward:
- 1- His adminship record in Persian Wikipedia has been awful. During his adminship (which is less than one year), he has abused his sysop power in several times and has blocked several users without any reasonable justification. In at least 2 occasions (one related to me and another related to آقایی@Fawiki ), these blocks are reverted by other admins, and in several other occasions other admins (including user:Raamin) the elected bureaucrat of Persian Wikiedia (user:Behaafarid) have stated that his actions are not justifiable. (these two admins and other users of Persian Wikipedia can confirm this). Indeed, if there was any arbitration committee in Persian Wikipedia, his sysop access should have been removed by now.
- 2- In October 2008, there was an election in Persian Wikipedia (about his bureaucrat access) and he didn't get enough votes. When this local community (who knows him better than other communities) doesn't approve him as a local bureaucrat, why should others give him Steward access (which includes all the access that a bureaucrat and a check-user can have in any local Wikipedia, including Persian Wikipedia)?
- 3- being steward, as result, means check-user access in all Wikimedia projects (including EnWiki and FaWiki). Giving this access to someone who lives in a country with a history of prosecuting bloggers and online journalists (such as Islamic Republic of Iran, or China) is very problematic. About Mardetanha, this problem is much more severe, because until now in all elections and major disputes in FaWiki, he has been supported by pro-IRI users. Alefbe 01:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Per to steward polices , Stewards are not allowed "changing rights on home wikis (wikis where they are active community members), except for clear cut cases (such as self-requested removal or emergencies)."so i hereby confirm if I changed any userright in fawiki(and other homewikis) including any kind of CU , OS action my steward flag to be removed --Mardetanha talk 02:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment Yes, indeed. But stewards, Messieurs les Administrateurs, eta. have friends, are friends, parents. (Do you want I give names to you ?…) --Budelberger 03:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC) (). (P.-S. : As I am not an illiterate vandalist – IGNARROGANT, ignoramus –, I have no rights to vote…)
- Comment Per to steward polices , Stewards are not allowed "changing rights on home wikis (wikis where they are active community members), except for clear cut cases (such as self-requested removal or emergencies)."so i hereby confirm if I changed any userright in fawiki(and other homewikis) including any kind of CU , OS action my steward flag to be removed --Mardetanha talk 02:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- As someone who is fairly introduced in the situation on fa.wp, I may say that it is a really complex one and that just not very active users (like Aliparsa) may keep good feelings from almost 100% of contributors. As I know Mardetanha's positions toward political issues, I may say that there is no need for any kind of worrying. Instead of confrontation, I would suggest joint work. Formally, for the community means nothing to have a steward. However, there are a lot of benefits of having a person well introduced in meta (Wikimedia) issues. You will be much better introduced in many Wikimedian aspects if you have a steward in your community. At the other side, as mentioned, permissions handling at home projects is possible just in very rare occasions. Besides that, Mardetanha's experience is very significant for work with other communities. --Millosh 07:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- 1- About your familiarity with Persian Wikipedia, I should mention that you don't know Persian language and your contact with Persian Wikipedia has been limited to a couple of pages (that the discussion was in English) and contact with a few FaWiki users (through email and IRC chat). However it seems that this limited contact was enough to notice that Aliparsa is the most respected user of Persian Wikipedia. If you look at elections for admins and bureaucrats in FaWiki, in those elections, all the current admins have been supported by Aliparsa, except user:Mardetanha (Aliparsa neither supported his adminship, nor his bureaucratship). This fact must give you some information about Mardtanha and his situation in FaWiki. I believe that here (in this election) this information is much more relevant than your experience of chatting with Mardetanha. Alefbe 09:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- 2- The problem is not restricted to Persian Wikipedia. Even if we forget Persian Wikipedia, having a pro-IRI steward who also lives in Iran endangers the life of independent Iranian uers of other Wikipedias (specially English Wikipedia). Of Course in theory, if he abuses his check-user right, his access will be removed, But in practice, this procedure is not very fast (and sometimes it's not easy to check if he has really abused his check-user right). This issue can put the life of some Iranian users of English Wikipedia in danger (specially those who are Baha'i, or those who edit with anti-IRI viewpoint). You can just look at some examples of those who ended up in jail in Iran, just because of writing a weblog, or just because of contributing in a website (related to women's right). Unfortunately, it seems that the experienced users of MetaWiki don't care about these issues. It seems that just overemphasized politeness (and a few months of doing routine work in MetaWiki) is enough to get a blank check to access personal infomation of users in all Wikimedia projects. That's a shame. Alefbe 09:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't say that I am very well introduced in the situation on fa.wp, but that I am fairly introduced in it. It is based on extensive work which I did last summer there [5]. I don't know Persian, but I had a lot of talks with a number of Persian Wikipedians. (And I have a great respect toward your community.) --Millosh 12:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Reputation is one thing, decision is another. I don't know why Aliparsa didn't support Mardetanha for adminship and bureaucratship. --Millosh 12:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- As I said to you in a personal email, Wikipedia is not a place where people should be foolish and endanger their lives. It is about writing educational materials. Those who are living in Iran shouldn't break Iranian laws. Fields related to (homo)sexuality should be covered at fa.wp by persons who are not living in Iran. --Millosh 12:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mr. Millosh perhaps you should rephrase your above comment. You are not at a place to order/suggest those users living in Iran NOT to contribute in certain subjects such as issues related to their sexualty/religion/political beliefs/human rights/Women's rights/etc. and just to write about subjects that they are allowed to write, such as benefits of eating potatoes and planting cucumbers and praising Hamas and Islamic Jihad! What you suggested above, is against the fundimental freedom of speech that this encyclopedia is founded upon. --Kaaveh Ahangar 13:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I would like to be able to fly, but I don't have wings. I may, also, talk a lot about which freedoms are endangered in any part of the world, including the West. Wikipedia doesn't have a power to make wings for me, as well as it doesn't have a power to change legal systems of sovereign countries. So, if I am not able to find wings for me, I have to adapt myself for being without wings. The same is about state systems. --Millosh 14:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Lets talk about philosophy and poetry in some other discussion. Back to the issue we were discussing, As far as I know, wikipedia users in Iran who have contributed to the project, haven't yet been put in danger, because the regime didn't have a mean to obtain their info but by giving this CU ability to a user who has exposed his real name, city and even the university that he goes to, we are putting many users in danger of exposure. Did those in the IRC channels told you that just in the past two weeks, 48 people have been executed in Iran? perhaps not! --Kaaveh Ahangar 14:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know that executions are not so rare in Iran, as well as they are not so rare in some other countries, as well as they were not so rare in USA until 10-20 years ago. However, you didn't tell here why those people were executed. Because of freedom of speech or because of rapes and drug trafficking? Method which you are using here is known as spreading FUD, which is, in fact, a very well known method for discrediting opponents. --Millosh 14:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I really hope you are not defending the IRI. The General Assembly has censured Iran for human rights violations in the past 29 years! is this too part of my so called "campaign of FUD" or FACTS on the table? The Islamic Republic has a long history of executing political disidents under labels of "drug trafickers" and "rapers" and so on. You can see this tactics in claims such president of IRI made about: "'No homosexuals in Iran'". I kindly suggest you to read en:Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran. --Kaaveh Ahangar 14:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I know that executions are not so rare in Iran, as well as they are not so rare in some other countries, as well as they were not so rare in USA until 10-20 years ago. However, you didn't tell here why those people were executed. Because of freedom of speech or because of rapes and drug trafficking? Method which you are using here is known as spreading FUD, which is, in fact, a very well known method for discrediting opponents. --Millosh 14:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Lets talk about philosophy and poetry in some other discussion. Back to the issue we were discussing, As far as I know, wikipedia users in Iran who have contributed to the project, haven't yet been put in danger, because the regime didn't have a mean to obtain their info but by giving this CU ability to a user who has exposed his real name, city and even the university that he goes to, we are putting many users in danger of exposure. Did those in the IRC channels told you that just in the past two weeks, 48 people have been executed in Iran? perhaps not! --Kaaveh Ahangar 14:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I would like to be able to fly, but I don't have wings. I may, also, talk a lot about which freedoms are endangered in any part of the world, including the West. Wikipedia doesn't have a power to make wings for me, as well as it doesn't have a power to change legal systems of sovereign countries. So, if I am not able to find wings for me, I have to adapt myself for being without wings. The same is about state systems. --Millosh 14:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mr. Millosh perhaps you should rephrase your above comment. You are not at a place to order/suggest those users living in Iran NOT to contribute in certain subjects such as issues related to their sexualty/religion/political beliefs/human rights/Women's rights/etc. and just to write about subjects that they are allowed to write, such as benefits of eating potatoes and planting cucumbers and praising Hamas and Islamic Jihad! What you suggested above, is against the fundimental freedom of speech that this encyclopedia is founded upon. --Kaaveh Ahangar 13:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Answers to questions don't appear to be all that well done. Prodego talk 05:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose Mardetanha is an active user in fa.wikipedia and he is my friend, it's hard for me to oppose my friend but for the following reason, I have to oppose his nomination.
- Mardetanha lives in Iran and so he has to adhere by the contry's laws. The Iranian regime's record of human rights abuse is among the worst in the world. The regime monitors weblogs, and websites such as wikipedia, blocks access to many internet sites and prosecutes internet users who oppose the theocratic regime. The Iranian parliament even approved a bill this year that: "producers of pornographic works and main elements in their production are considered corruptors of the world and could be sentenced to punishment as corruptors of the world." which in Iranian laws mean EXECUTION. So if god forbids, the regime arrest Mardetanha (that writes with his real name) and under torture (which is a common practice in Iranian prisons) get the password access of MT, and uses it to find out of certain IP's who contirbute on articles varying from pornography to politics and religion, who would be responsible for the safety of those users? Therefore I think we shouldn't gamble on the safety and lives of wikipedia users who live in Iran by taking a risk like this. --Kaaveh Ahangar 06:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment i am not working under my real name --Mardetanha talk 06:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment In fa.wikipedia you exposed your real name, and city you live in and even the university you go to. That's more than enough for them to find and get you. --Kaaveh Ahangar 06:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- i have never exposed my real name and nobody knows where do i study or where do i live. i have just exposed my city --Mardetanha talk 06:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- to refresh your memory, do I have to show you links from fa.wikipedia? --Kaaveh Ahangar 06:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Concern is somewhat valid, but hyperbolized. Relations between WMF and Iranian government are very good and I am really skeptical about the possibility for such development of the situation. If elected, Mardetanha may decide not to do any CU on projects where significant portion of contributors are coming from Iran (Persian, Azerbaijani, Kurdish...), which means that we'll be well introduced if something would go wrong. --Millosh 06:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- to refresh your memory, do I have to show you links from fa.wikipedia? --Kaaveh Ahangar 06:27, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- "Very good Relations between WMF and Iranian government" is only your perception. In reality the Iranian regime looks at wikipedia as an "American project" and as a proof, I can show you links from the official and semi official news agencies of IRI that confirm my claim. I wonder that in a country where the Nobel laureate and peace activist faces daily life threats from the government thugs, how can you downgrade such possibility?! I hope you understand that this is a very serious issue which can affect real lives of some Iranian users. --Kaaveh Ahangar 10:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I would like to hear from contributors who are living in Iran that they are afraid for their lives while working on Wikipedia (and why). It may be sent to me via email. --Millosh 10:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can hardly believe that Mardetanha would be in danger after being a steward. I cannot however get the point Kaaveh Ahangar tries to justify in this propaganda, although it's true that recently he had conflicts with many fawiki users because of recent Gaza crisis and Kaaveh's pro-Israeli Zionist POV. Among some websites which are filtered in Iran (almost all adult websites + most political oppositions), WP is not filtered, even when some Arabic countries, China, and certain ISPs in the GB filtered some of its content. Note that since many non-pro-IRI or anti-IRI contributors work on it, the state of the articles are not really desirable to the IRI government, yet it's up and working.
Regarding Alefbet's comment, I can understand his concern, and I was also opposed to Mardetanha's election of bureaucrat in fawiki, not because he is not an active, or knowledged user, but mainly because he seemed not to have enough experience for that. If you were able to read Persian, you could see that Mardetanha and Alefbet had many previous conflicts. One of the recent ones resulted in blockage of Alefbet at fawiki.
Alefbet's concerns about pro-IRI users or prosecution is also seems to be a propaganda. There are violations of human rights in Iran but, believe or not, I know many Baha'i people in Iran, who openly write their affiliation in their Resume, when applying for a job. This doesn't mean that they have equal rights with others in Iran, but the situation is not as black as that being by Kaaveh and Alefbet described.--Mohsens 20:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC) (same as fawiki)- About the conflict between me and Mardetanha, of course I don't deny it (he had abused his sysop power several times, and I wasn't silent about it). About the last incident, you should also mention that others considered that block (by Mardetanha) unjustifiable and User:Behaafarid (the only elected bureaucrat of Persian Wikipedia) reverted Mardetanha's action. Alefbe 21:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just to second this Alefbet's comment. Mardetanha's act of blocking Alefbet was called unjustifiable by a fawiki bureaucrat (User:Behaafarid). Although that blocking doesn't seem to be fair (a simple revert resolved the issue), User:Behaafarid's advocation of Alefbet was also disputed. Another (previous) blocking of Alefbet by Mardetanha, disputed for a long time on fawiki, was totally wrong IMHO, because he was in an edit war with Alefbet then. --Mohsens 20:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Don't worry please my frinds. I am talking as a user who lives in Iran and corssed internal law border many times. please do believe this drastin image that my fellow citizen from north of America is trying to picture for you, made me doubtful that do I live in such a bad country? I have been living in Iran since begining of my life and I grow up here taking my child to school everyday. This country is not like that their words though. I accept it has got many problems but long away from their words. the story of iranian goverment and steward elections are two completly sepearet matter.please don't make wikipedia as political venue. --دانقولا 23:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- For those who don't know this user, he is not an opponent of IRI, but as a matter of fact, he supports the IRI various policies and of course if you are a pro regime, you would not face any danger in Iran. This user make claims such anti semitism doesn't exist in Iran"! If you can believe this user's claims, you would perhaps take Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's word on "'No homosexuals in Iran'"! --Kaaveh Ahangar 04:40, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- About the conflict between me and Mardetanha, of course I don't deny it (he had abused his sysop power several times, and I wasn't silent about it). About the last incident, you should also mention that others considered that block (by Mardetanha) unjustifiable and User:Behaafarid (the only elected bureaucrat of Persian Wikipedia) reverted Mardetanha's action. Alefbe 21:09, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- I can hardly believe that Mardetanha would be in danger after being a steward. I cannot however get the point Kaaveh Ahangar tries to justify in this propaganda, although it's true that recently he had conflicts with many fawiki users because of recent Gaza crisis and Kaaveh's pro-Israeli Zionist POV. Among some websites which are filtered in Iran (almost all adult websites + most political oppositions), WP is not filtered, even when some Arabic countries, China, and certain ISPs in the GB filtered some of its content. Note that since many non-pro-IRI or anti-IRI contributors work on it, the state of the articles are not really desirable to the IRI government, yet it's up and working.
- I would like to hear from contributors who are living in Iran that they are afraid for their lives while working on Wikipedia (and why). It may be sent to me via email. --Millosh 10:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Comment i am not working under my real name --Mardetanha talk 06:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mardetanha lives in Iran and so he has to adhere by the contry's laws. The Iranian regime's record of human rights abuse is among the worst in the world. The regime monitors weblogs, and websites such as wikipedia, blocks access to many internet sites and prosecutes internet users who oppose the theocratic regime. The Iranian parliament even approved a bill this year that: "producers of pornographic works and main elements in their production are considered corruptors of the world and could be sentenced to punishment as corruptors of the world." which in Iranian laws mean EXECUTION. So if god forbids, the regime arrest Mardetanha (that writes with his real name) and under torture (which is a common practice in Iranian prisons) get the password access of MT, and uses it to find out of certain IP's who contirbute on articles varying from pornography to politics and religion, who would be responsible for the safety of those users? Therefore I think we shouldn't gamble on the safety and lives of wikipedia users who live in Iran by taking a risk like this. --Kaaveh Ahangar 06:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose. User:Mardetanha has the worst record of errors (and power abuse) among the admins of the Persian Wikipedia. His request for becoming bureaucrat was not approved by the Persian Wikipedians (most of the experienced users of Persian Wikipedia voted against him). Electing him as steward will have catastrophic results for Persian Wikipedia and related projects. Mostafazizi 08:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- No. --Dr. Gert Blazejewski 09:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- --Aqwis 11:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- above reports of power abuse need to taken seriously indeed, or at least more seriously than most people voting "knows languages, support" seem to be taking it. --Dbachmann 11:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose. per Alefbe. Cobain 11:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose. As per Kaaveh, this is a very serious issue which can affect real lives of some Iranian users. --Hariva 11:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- sorry, bad notion axpdeHello! 12:58, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: I don't know about what happened, who is guilty and who is not. It's just ... a steward is a powerful position, and anyone applying for this should be "undisputable" ... axpdeHello! 23:08, 3 February 2009 (UTC) - I have change my mind after reasons above sorry but it is to dangerous, we are talking about life--Seha 13:04, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, but with all due respect, and after giving it much thinking, I have to say no. It is a bit soon for being an steward. His agenda is not clean enough, and his experience is not enough too. Huji 14:55, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- As much as I'd love to see a non-Western user as Steward, the issues raised above cast a serious enough doubt to force me to oppose. Better be safe than sorry. -- Nahum 15:43, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose. Too risky. shirulashem 16:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Mardetanha, a steward? NO. He doesn't use his administration tools in fa.wikipedia properly; now give him more tools? Raamin 16:44, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- He looks like he can be very helpful because of technical skills and knowing many languages which are not widely spoken among stewards, but Iranian laws, many doubts about his administrator experience and terrible answers to questions don't allow to trust him — NickK 19:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your participation in page i have mentioned above i am not working under my real name and so their claim is not valid. --Mardetanha talk 19:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- But the other problems remain — NickK 19:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your participation in page i have mentioned above i am not working under my real name and so their claim is not valid. --Mardetanha talk 19:38, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- NonvocalScream 21:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --Kjetil_r 23:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose.--Burn ID 03:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose [[6]] User Mardetanha has an unpleasant way into dealing with other users. He abuses his management advantages against other users if they discuss in a discussion against his opinion. Because of his negative qualities, he has failed in fawikipedia at steward elections. He terrorizes the users since then who have taken a vote against him. If he is elected as a steward here, then he has more possibilities to terrorize Persian Wiki users. Fawiki loses more users if Mardetanha is elected here. He is not Trustworthy because he makes false statements about himself. Ojanfar 04:06, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Recasted my vote per power abuse reports above. --Ivan Štambuk 05:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)- I have never misused my sysop tools moreover there are more than one project to check my administrator action not just fawiki.by review my general activity you have have better background on me.please check my administrator action in all of these wikis--Mardetanha talk 08:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Very well, I'm convinced. --Ivan Štambuk 19:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- See User talk:Ivan Štambuk for Mardetanha's allegations (to discredit oppose votes), and my comment about those allegations. Alefbe 09:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Very well, I'm convinced. --Ivan Štambuk 19:37, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- I have never misused my sysop tools moreover there are more than one project to check my administrator action not just fawiki.by review my general activity you have have better background on me.please check my administrator action in all of these wikis--Mardetanha talk 08:16, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- --P@d@w@ne 09:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- OpposeToo problematic, biased. Alex F. 11:28, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
(User may not be eligible: No home wiki is identified. --Shunpiker 17:14, 2 February 2009 (UTC)Found eligible account with SUL utility, so dropping objection, but user should register themselves per guidelines to avoid future confusion. --Shunpiker 17:27, 2 February 2009 (UTC)) - Oppose because of:
- violation of wikipedia policies>>For example:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material >in this edition, He restored unsourced contentious material about رجب_طیب_اردوغان رجب طیب اردوغان (en: Recep Tayyip Erdoğan). Note that: Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about living persons—whether the material is negative, positive, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion, (Jimmy Wales:Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons). I warned him,he answered:"Have you read Biographies of living persons?, it should be reduced but should not be deleted"([7]) (30 January, 2009)
- it is a danger to the freedom of speech, please do not forget : Lawmakers blast Yahoo executives for helping China jail dissident:
Jerry Yang, Yahoo Inc.'s CEO, bowing and apologizing to the mother of journalist Shi Tao and the wife of Internet writer Wang Xiaoning. They received 10-year sentences after being identified with the help of information from Yahoo.
- Do you really want it happen again? --Ali20 wiki 10:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry i doubt you even really know know what is Steward and what is his job .i Have told several time here Wikipedia is not a place for your political debates .and i am not working under my real name.--Mardetanha talk 16:10, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
Patrol110 14:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)I have made wrong decision. Sorry. Patrol110 22:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Do you really want it happen again? --Ali20 wiki 10:35, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose — MrDolomite • Talk 15:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
enough doubt to opose Vuvar1 16:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)maybe I don't know the situation well enough to vote against him, but I still waiting for some answers Vuvar1 21:23, 2 February 2009 (UTC)- Please help me in keeping wiki out of political debates .Wikipedia is not a venue for political debates.if government is arrogant it has nothing to me .Don't judge based on my government --Mardetanha talk 18:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- It's essential that political disagreements from one wiki not spread on to meta. By having Mardetanha as an Steward, it would be very likely to have wars and political disagreements from fa.wikipedia spread on to meta. --Kaaveh Ahangar 20:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Please help me in keeping wiki out of political debates .Wikipedia is not a venue for political debates.if government is arrogant it has nothing to me .Don't judge based on my government --Mardetanha talk 18:00, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Rejecting someone due to circumstances they can't control, like an authoritarian thought-controlling government, is quite sad, but people's lives are in danger here. Habbit 18:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Contra. QuartierLatin1968 20:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Pharaoh of the Wizards 23:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - Security issues are serious IMHO. Jaakobou 10:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - insurmountable safety issues and probably illegal to export private information from the EU or US to Iran. I wouldn't want to read about people being stoned to death or hanged in Iran due to information on WP that others have permitted to be used that way. Carlossuarez46 20:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I am not working under my real name .it's completely unfair to judge my Wikipedia activity because of my government --Mardetanha talk 20:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't care what name you're working under - your computer and passwords will give access to information that can cost people their lives - it's unfortunate that you live in Iran, but the people of Iran voted in a government that views dissenting speech as punishable by death. You are subject to those laws, anonymous or not. I am not judging what your activity is or isn't, it's just that in the hands of your government the information may cost lives - a risk I am unwilling to make and one which I find your nonchalance about more than mildly disturbing. Carlossuarez46 21:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry,It seems you don't red above argument.per steward policy steward are not allowed to perform any CU on their homewiki + wikis who has their local CUs.Anyway steward election is not venue for political debates.thanks for your vote and participation --Mardetanha talk 21:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion is not about what is legal. It's about the access that you will have and the possibility that you (or someone on behalf of you) might misuse it. As a steward you will have Check-User right in Persian Wikipedia, as well as English Wikipedia and other projects. Alefbe 21:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nice :) i was in doubt that you know what is steward exactly .None of steward has CU or OS right by default.in the time of request they grant themselves CU or OS flag with the condition that i have mentioned above neither their homewiki nor wikis with local CU or OS --Mardetanha talk 21:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- The difference doesn't matter (the details of the procedure is not important). What matters is that they have the ability to do that. Alefbe 21:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Nice :) i was in doubt that you know what is steward exactly .None of steward has CU or OS right by default.in the time of request they grant themselves CU or OS flag with the condition that i have mentioned above neither their homewiki nor wikis with local CU or OS --Mardetanha talk 21:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- The discussion is not about what is legal. It's about the access that you will have and the possibility that you (or someone on behalf of you) might misuse it. As a steward you will have Check-User right in Persian Wikipedia, as well as English Wikipedia and other projects. Alefbe 21:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- This my final answer to you .we all have abiltiy to kill each other but we don't because of have rules and moral and Steward are subject of steward policy and i will act very accordingly --Mardetanha talk 21:51, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry,It seems you don't red above argument.per steward policy steward are not allowed to perform any CU on their homewiki + wikis who has their local CUs.Anyway steward election is not venue for political debates.thanks for your vote and participation --Mardetanha talk 21:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't care what name you're working under - your computer and passwords will give access to information that can cost people their lives - it's unfortunate that you live in Iran, but the people of Iran voted in a government that views dissenting speech as punishable by death. You are subject to those laws, anonymous or not. I am not judging what your activity is or isn't, it's just that in the hands of your government the information may cost lives - a risk I am unwilling to make and one which I find your nonchalance about more than mildly disturbing. Carlossuarez46 21:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- I am not working under my real name .it's completely unfair to judge my Wikipedia activity because of my government --Mardetanha talk 20:55, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose for screwing up so much threaded discussion on this page. ST47 00:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose---Larno Man 01:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)I read oppose comments. I do not think that what they are talking is true. They are exaggerating about their security concerns. This is only a false alarm to scare voters--Larno Man 02:47, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strong Oppose- If someone is responsible, s/he will not accept checkuser access while s/he lives in Iran. There is no room for error. (you can read this example about security in Iran.) -- Fa.wiki sysop, Taranet 07:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- As Milosh said above "If elected, Mardetanha may decide not to do any CU on projects where significant portion of contributors are coming from Iran (Persian, Azerbaijani, Kurdish...), which means that we'll be well introduced if something would go wrong."
- And Mardtanha has said above that "so i hereby confirm if I changed any userright in fawiki(and other homewikis) including any kind of CU, OS action my steward flag to be removed" which if I interpret correctly means what Milosh has said. --دوستدار ويکيپديا 10:32, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Furthermore, Iranian government acts only when it feels "threatened". Sure, they do it when they come to the conclusion that the price they have to pay for it worths doing it (just as many other governments do so, and have done so). Filtering Wikipedia altogether would be a better choice than tracking its contributors, both effort-wise and politically, wouldn't it? --دوستدار ويکيپديا 10:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - While the claims above may be unsubstantiated, the possibility of it affecting real people in a marked way is a risk that is should be mitigated. -- Jeff3000 16:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- I was also leaning towards neutral/abstain despite having found Mardetanha to be very helpful when I wished to learn more about the Incubator project, however Mardetanha has now written "User:Mardetanha/recusal", which does mitigate any real risk. All users are at risk of the NSA/CIA/MI5 sniffing steward passwords in order to obtain privileged information, and that threat seems more credible to me than Iran torturing Mardetanha to obtain his password. John Vandenberg 18:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose per Alefbe above. nsaa 16:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- I've been contacted by Mardetanha by e-mail at "Feb 6, 2009 at 03:37". He sounds like a nice guy with a lot of language skills (a strong candidate in this regard), but unhappily I can't change my vote. You should be very carefull/never do a blocking when yourself is engaged in a discussion. If I've understand it correctly he has done this twice on his home wiki. This makes me feel that the candidate doesn't understand some of the basic principles governing Wikipedia and the extra tools you get when you're an admin on every project (steward). For example it's possible for him or IRI to completely remove stuff like this and only other stewards are able to detect it. I'm a bit worried about that Stewards doesn't need to log in securely by https://. Then it's no problem for the IRI government or other parts of the cleric leadership to interfere and grab the account without his knowledge. Or have I greatly misunderstand someting? nsaa 22:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Strongly Oppose. Tesi1700 18:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem eligible to vote (based on the userpage). Alefbe 18:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Says who? from the voting requirements "# either have an account on Meta with userpage linked to your homewiki, and a link to your meta account from your homewiki userpage or have a linked SUL account;". I do have a linked SUL account.Tesi1700 18:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK, no problem. Sorry about the false alarm. Alefbe 20:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Says who? from the voting requirements "# either have an account on Meta with userpage linked to your homewiki, and a link to your meta account from your homewiki userpage or have a linked SUL account;". I do have a linked SUL account.Tesi1700 18:57, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem eligible to vote (based on the userpage). Alefbe 18:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Mo Cuishle 19:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose – I’m sorry — H92 (t · c · no) 20:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - Amgine/meta wikt wnews blog wmf-blog goog news 21:34, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- good heaven's NO. As Alefbe and numerous others have already pointed out, Mardetanha is untrustworthy. We need stewards with moral integrity, and above reproach. Mardetanha fails that litmus test. -- (cypsy) 10:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose seems to be dangerous--Gdgourou 10:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC) change my vote after some discussion with him --Gdgourou 13:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)Oppose Bence My Talk 15:18, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Strongly Oppose Mr. Vernon 07:41, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose again. Why? I think, jobcolector. Sorry. Bence My Talk 13:29, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- I see some concerns here sorry. --Herby talk thyme 16:19, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose - I oppose, not because of naive arguments about security issues for him from IRI, but because Mardetanha doesn't seem to have enough experience and knowledge for being a steward. He made some mistakes during his administration in fawiki (links can be provided here if needed), and that's why we have no support up to now from fawiki sysops in favor of him, but in contrast, there are 2 oppositions (Taranet, and Raamin). He is a hard-working Wikipedian, with many benefits at least for fawiki community, but I believe this is too early for him to have such a privilege here. His recent attempt to become a bureaucrat in fawiki failed, because there wasn't enough consent on his experience and ability in handling what a bureaucrat should do here. --Mohsens 19:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks to you and Huji for two valid objections. If I counted well, just two of you and Dbachman voted against because of valid Wikimedian concerns. However (there is always some "however" :) ), knowing that there are just 7 admins at fa.wp with more than 110.000 of registered users and more than 1300 active users, I think that pressure on admins at fa.wp is not a regular pressure which other admins or stewards are having during their regular work. To compare numbers with one relaxed case: Norwegian Wikipedia has 66 admins with 105.000 registered users and more than 2500 active users. Even if we count just ratio between number of admins and number of active users, fa.wp should have at least 20-30 admins to split pressure on them more or less regularly. Note, also, that Mardetanha didn't make any problem during his half year work in SWMT, which is, in fact, the most important stewards' task. --Millosh 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Millosh, thanks for your concerns. I highly respect your insights on this topic. BTW, although not forced by the policies or guidelines here, I believe Stewards should have enough experience and trust from their native wiki. Mardetanha doesn't seem to have. --Mohsens 21:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Just to say again that I respect your position as a valid one. Our positions are different, but they are strictly related to how we see Wikimedian issues. I would really like that I am looking into the argumentation like yours as a dominant type at the opposing side. --Millosh 21:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Millosh, thanks for your concerns. I highly respect your insights on this topic. BTW, although not forced by the policies or guidelines here, I believe Stewards should have enough experience and trust from their native wiki. Mardetanha doesn't seem to have. --Mohsens 21:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks to you and Huji for two valid objections. If I counted well, just two of you and Dbachman voted against because of valid Wikimedian concerns. However (there is always some "however" :) ), knowing that there are just 7 admins at fa.wp with more than 110.000 of registered users and more than 1300 active users, I think that pressure on admins at fa.wp is not a regular pressure which other admins or stewards are having during their regular work. To compare numbers with one relaxed case: Norwegian Wikipedia has 66 admins with 105.000 registered users and more than 2500 active users. Even if we count just ratio between number of admins and number of active users, fa.wp should have at least 20-30 admins to split pressure on them more or less regularly. Note, also, that Mardetanha didn't make any problem during his half year work in SWMT, which is, in fact, the most important stewards' task. --Millosh 20:05, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Because he has reacted very poorly to complaints by users on Commons when he deleted images, see for example here. /Pieter Kuiper 08:31, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Are you actually opposing mardetanha as a steward, just because he didn't realize the File: prefix was missing? --ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 15:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- How could one miss such a thing? It is symptomatic for how this admin disregards mail from users; Commons:User talk:Mardetanha#Image:Higgins.jpg is another example. /Pieter Kuiper 17:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- In some cultures it is not polite enough to say just "OK" or to say nothing after the information is given. Knowing that, I don't see any kind of negative reaction in his words "Thanks for informing". --Millosh 20:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that for four weeks he did not react to my complaint about the deletion. Mardetanha has today contacted me to ask me to study his record and to reconsider my vote. He was unfailingly polite, but I do not really like such emails. I see that other users have much more favourable impressions, but I contribute my vote here based on my impressions on a project where I am active. /Pieter Kuiper 23:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- OK. A valid point. I didn't know for details, so your objection seemed a little bit weird at the beginning. --Millosh 23:27, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that for four weeks he did not react to my complaint about the deletion. Mardetanha has today contacted me to ask me to study his record and to reconsider my vote. He was unfailingly polite, but I do not really like such emails. I see that other users have much more favourable impressions, but I contribute my vote here based on my impressions on a project where I am active. /Pieter Kuiper 23:18, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- In some cultures it is not polite enough to say just "OK" or to say nothing after the information is given. Knowing that, I don't see any kind of negative reaction in his words "Thanks for informing". --Millosh 20:00, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- How could one miss such a thing? It is symptomatic for how this admin disregards mail from users; Commons:User talk:Mardetanha#Image:Higgins.jpg is another example. /Pieter Kuiper 17:55, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Are you actually opposing mardetanha as a steward, just because he didn't realize the File: prefix was missing? --ChrisiPK (Talk|Contribs) 15:29, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --Anthony Ivanoff 17:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I think that Mardetanha needs more experience, he is very new to Wikimedia. I do not appreciate the commenting on opinions of voters on either side, so please refrain from commenting my vote, it is my personal opinion and only an evaluation of his aibility for being a steward this year, maybe next year I would support him, I respect Mardetanha as a person. --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 20:25, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose I don't like the canvessing and the comments on other peoples votes. You don't need to ask others to vote for you, if you are good enough they'll do it on their own initiative, you also shouldn't comment on other peoples votes because although Wikimedia is not a vote, elections on Wikimedia are true votes, and a persons vote, is their vote!fr33kman t - c 03:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)- Sorry i haven't canvassed actually i am victim of canvassing + i don't comment under votes just those one which need answer .please read Lar's comment. Thanks for participation.--Mardetanha talk 03:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- You did send me an email saying that you had always tried to be a responsive admin, asking me to look at your matrix, and requesting me to review my vote. /Pieter Kuiper 09:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- When around one candidate FUD is spread that (1) he may leak IP addresses to a repressive regime, (2) that he is a pan-Turkist, but,(3) that he is, at the other side, Iranian nationalist and (4) anti-Semite -- the only option which that person has is to try to explain to people that he is not that. At the other side, in your particular case, I think that he shouldn't send an email to you because it is not related to FUD spread around him. --Millosh 17:19, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- You did send me an email saying that you had always tried to be a responsive admin, asking me to look at your matrix, and requesting me to review my vote. /Pieter Kuiper 09:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Strongly Oppose sorry for haven`t enough time and tools for xplaining the facts. i`m in trip and have no english keyboard for type easily. but my duty forced me to give vote. his electing for being steward is very very dengerous for iranian fa.wiki users! some user said reasons and I don`t repeat those now. plz see User talk:Mardetanha/archive1#gordafarid for one case of his bad sysoping. then he said lie that anyone didn`t know his realy name on top of the oppose votes parageraph!! in fa.wiki all perfect users like me know his realy name and family name and I think the liar must not be stewards. in this manner the ministry of informatiom in islamic republic know him and its very bad for persian users. excuse me for bad writing.--Gordafarid 18:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC) I edit some wrongs with english keyboard--Gordafarid 15:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Duty?! Are you receive email during your trip for voting?! Don't call him liar for personal conflict. I'm sysop on fa.wiki, Mradetanha, me, roozbeh (bureaucrat on fa.wiki) and hessam (ex-sysop on fa.wiki) block you for more than 4 months on fa.wiki. only users have received his emails may know his real name. Also read this. ظهیری 21:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- yea, duty! my duty to my native language!! I love persian (farsi) not same someone that liked the arabic! if some persons like this user will be a steward, we must accept and watch ending the fa.wiki story. then I don`t give e-mail, I read discussions in villagepump in fa.wiki and as soon as possible arrive myself to here to voting. about other crimes from u, I havn`t time to answer. be happy.--Gordafarid 15:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Duty?! Are you receive email during your trip for voting?! Don't call him liar for personal conflict. I'm sysop on fa.wiki, Mradetanha, me, roozbeh (bureaucrat on fa.wiki) and hessam (ex-sysop on fa.wiki) block you for more than 4 months on fa.wiki. only users have received his emails may know his real name. Also read this. ظهیری 21:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose--Wikikids 03:02, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose--Node ue 06:40, 12 February 2009 (UTC)Changed my mind! --Node ue 20:56, 21 February 2009 (UTC)Oppose Too trigger-happy. This user had blocked me without my wrongdoing. Admittedly ackonwledged this tho--Agricoleur 00:51, 13 February 2009 (UTC)Not elegible to vote, confirmed by account elegiblity —Dferg (meta-w:es.) 12:10, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --ysangkok 23:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Too many problems reported here. O. Morand 10:54, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose OhanaUnitedTalk page 14:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose lack of experiences.--Kwj2772 (論) 13:58, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Oppose per O. Morand. --OrsolyaVirág 18:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)--OrsolyaVirág 21:36, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose --Brownout(msg) 00:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose Shatin 03:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Neutral
[edit]- Neutral --Sir James 06:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Neutral I'm a bit worried regarding the iranian laws that may be harmful for Mardetanha and the other reasons that are shown the in no part, but as far as I know Mardetanha is a trustful person. I hope he would explain to me and / or to all how he thinks to fix these problems. --Filnik 10:03, 1 February 2009 (UTC)Clarifications arrived.. skipped to support ;-)
- Neutral Efbé 10:50, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
- Neutral --Davecrosby uk 00:44, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
- Neutral The concerns raised in opposition are enough to prevent me from supporting this candidate. Kingturtle 18:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
- Neutral I am not commenting on the candidate right now, but note that at least one of the opposers committed some widespread canvassing before being asked to stop. Canvassing means to systematically confront persons to try to convince them to vote like you. Please note that canvassing is strongly discouraged, and if you are here to vote based on such emails, please vote based on the merits of the candidate rather than pressure from others. ++Lar: t/c 03:39, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. —Pathoschild 03:41:29, 05 February 2009 (UTC)
- I would second that. Huji 15:30, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. —Pathoschild 03:41:29, 05 February 2009 (UTC)
- Neutral I'm a little worried about the problem concern to Mardetanha... --Taichi - (あ!) 03:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)