Talk:Wikipedia Asian Month 2019

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Organiser[edit]

Deryni and The Living love: If are you going to be organzers for your wikis, please move your home Wikipedia with your surname behind Czech Wikipedia. Thank you! --Patriccck (talk) 10:45, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

CN Banner[edit]

I don't know how it is organized (or who takes care of the banner) but the 2018 translation chaos (asking me to do the copypaste) could have been avoided by use of Translate Extensions. Translation extension allows the translators to use familiar Translate extension and CN admin just need to click "(Publish, approve, or something like that)" to make it into the system. There were changes in how CentralNotice operates (Meta:Babel/Archives/2018-11#Changes to CentralNotice Access and the new "CentralAdmin-only protection") so it might be worth considering migrating for the future. — regards, Revi 09:28, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

User:-revi Got it. THX Li-Yun Lin (talk) 03:31, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
@Li-Yun Lin, AddisWang, Saileshpat, Ле Лой, and ネイ: What update about the CN and translation? ‍‍‍‍~Moheen (keep talking) 14:28, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
@Moheen: Please refer --CentralNotice/Request/Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 thank you --Tiven2240 (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Official Guidelines of the WAM 2019[edit]

I created this page with Official Guidelines of the WAM 2019. Organizers @Li-Yun Lin and AddisWang: please correct the mistakes and edit the text. Then please allow this guidelines. --Patriccck (talk) 09:59, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

WAM 2019 banner on central notice[edit]

Hi! I was one of the organizers of WAM on Spanish Wikipedia in 2017 and 2018, and again this year. I have a question about the central notice. Should we apply for it or will there be a common application for all languages participating? Another question is about the tool for evaluation, and this is the same question. Should we ask for it? Thanks! Millars (talk) 22:08, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

@Millars: The link to the request - CentralNotice/Request/Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 --Tiven2240 (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Expand and update articles[edit]

We suggested from German Wikipedia to give points for updating and expanding articles, because there is a big need for suc work, even more than for new articles. --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 21:50, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

@J. Patrick Fischer: Unfortunately This year we don't have any input in Article Expansion. If the community wishes to have it's own prize it can have it on its own. WAM has prize for just new Article creation this year. Maybe next year as the Fountain Tool gets updated we can have this possible. Thank you for understanding. --Tiven2240 (talk) 14:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 in Bashkir Wikipedia[edit]

We have been participating in the marathon since 2015 and we have many stub articles. According to the rules of the marathon, only new articles participate in the competition. But we would like to improve the existing stub articles. Let us know if you will consider improved articles? --ZUFAr (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

The marathon is big enough, as it is. I recommend staying in this format. We can work all year round with our stubs and hitting local competetions as well. Therefore, stay in this format! It is perfect, as it is! Amici sumus, Deryni (talk) 21:10, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia Asian Month 2018[edit]

Hi there! I would like to have the data of number of articles created and number of participants joined in last 2018 events. Where can i have it or would you mind to email me the data? Thank you.CyberTroopers (talk) 14:14, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello CyberTroopers! Thank you for reaching out to us. Here is the link for the last year data for Wikipedia Asian Month 2018. Hope this helps. Regards Wikilover90 (talk) 13:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Will run?[edit]

Hello, will this contest run? It's almost end of the month, and there are basically no info on the page besides a list of participant wikis. :) huwiki joins the first time, and I have questions about the tool and the overall process of the contest but the subpage for organisers is empty... Where can I get some assistance? Thanks in advance :) Teemeah (talk) 10:46, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Li-Yun Lin and AddisWang: maybe you can help to answer this? Thank you in advance. Teemeah (talk) 10:16, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Teemeah: we will send you the detailed information about the same very soon. Stay tuned --Tiven2240 (talk) 12:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

A Wikipedia-wide banner announcing the start of the Asian Month?[edit]

Last year there was a banner visible throughout all Wikipedia language versions announcing the start of the Asian Month. @Seddon (WMF): would you be willing to recreate a banner again (just the same one as last year, because the logo hasn't changed, but with "2019" instead of "2018")? Thanks --Furfur (talk) 07:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Furfur: please have a look at CentralNotice/Request/Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 for more information. Thank you --Tiven2240 (talk) 14:48, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for this info! --Furfur (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Wikimedians of Mainland China would like to engage in this project as Postcard/Supporting affiliate[edit]

Hello, our Wikimedians of Mainland China is willing to engage in Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 as Postcard/Supporting affiliate. Would anyone guide us on how to process? We are able to resolve the funds ourselves. Much appreciated! Walter Grassroot (talk) 15:18, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Walter Grassroot: Noted. Our Chief Co-ordinator will assist you with the same soon. Thank you --Tiven2240 (talk) 16:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
@Walter Grassroot: Hi, I am the chief of WAM 2019. This year we already decided which affiliate is our Postcard/Supporting affiliate. Many thanks for your kind offer. Li-Yun Lin (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
@Li-Yun Lin and Tiven2240:, Would I read the conference summary for your internal discussion because no one was informed about the exact community for the affiliate. Walter Grassroot (talk) 06:57, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
@Walter Grassroot: Sorry, you are not a member of the international team so it's impossible for me to let you read the summary of the discussion we had. I, as the chief of WAM, in here reject your request. Li-Yun Lin (talk) 07:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
Already, I got the point, you have highlighted your leadership twice, and I have acknowledged the hostility from your Taiwanese community. Thanks and good luck. Walter Grassroot (talk) 07:33, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Fountain Tool is not ready for WAM19 on sdwiki[edit]

Hi, I am organizer and jury member for the WAM 2019 on Sindhi Wikipedia. The Fountain tool isn't ready for us to submit the articles. Today I have worked on article but couldn't submitted it due to above mentioned problem. Kindly enable fountain toll for WAM19 on sdwiki. Thanks 🙏JogiAsad (talk) 15:32, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Pinging Tool Administrator @Ле Лой: . Thank you. -Tiven2240 (talk) 16:33, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, now toll is enabled and working, 😊. JogiAsad (talk) 13:57, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

German tool[edit]

Could you please add as juror Sebastian Wallroth and Yanikor in the tool for German Wikipedia? Thank you! --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 21:28, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Done. Le Loy 05:13, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding WAM2019 knwiki homepage[edit]

@Lokesha kunchadka: Hello Lokesha, I hope you are doing well. Haven't you yet set up local homepage for your community? We are setting up the central banner. Will you please provide the exact link of the homepage? The one you have input on WAM2019 is not working. I am looking forward to hear from you. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 14:22, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Tulsi Bhagat: the organizer seems to be blocked on that wiki. Can you suggest any user who can take a lead. --Tiven2240 (talk) 02:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Sorry Tiven, no idea who can take the lead. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 03:49, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Redirect article[edit]

de:Tal (Maske) was just a redirect before. Same problem would be translations, when the version history is imported. Could you change the tool like in te last years to accept such articles? We, the jurors, would check the creating date. --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 16:15, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@J. Patrick Fischer: The tool administrator Le loy would assist you better than us. Do message him on his talkpage. Thank you --Tiven2240 (talk) 07:12, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
I thought, he is reading here, too. ;-) --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 09:02, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ле Лой: The same problem with lv:Čiba. --Papuass (talk) 12:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
The solution could be allowing Jurors to add articles which violate rules, if technical solution is too complex. --Papuass (talk) 12:17, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
Done, Papuass please check! Le Loy 05:13, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Ле Лой: Worked fine. @J. Patrick Fischer:, you can try the same. --Papuass (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Using wikidata to analyse submissions[edit]

I really like the stats page from 2017. Are there any expertise involved who might be able to use Wikidata to organise submissions by theme (e.g. biographies, places, events, etc) or for the biographies some stats about dates of birth, places etc? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 04:10, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The data we used was from the Fountain Tool. Maybe wikidata can help. An expert in Wikidata may assist. Thank you --Tiven2240 (talk) 17:08, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Help with WAM at pt.wiki[edit]

Hi guys. Can anyone help with the creation of the Wikipedia Asian Month submission tool for Lusophone Wikipedia? Its know its a bit late... but our community participates every year with hundreds of articles... Thank you so much. Tuga1143 (talk) 00:00, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

Pinging @Ле Лой:. Please assist --Tiven2240 (talk) 17:06, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Tiven2240. Tuga1143 (talk) 00:05, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
Done! https://tools.wmflabs.org/fountain/editathons/asian-month-2019-pt Le Loy 05:11, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Fountain tool for WAM19 on sdwiki doesn't shows article[edit]

@Ле Лой and Tiven2240: Fountain Tool for WAM 2019 on sdwiki is not showing statistics, article created by me(JogiAsad), yesterday I submitted article Gobustan Rock Art its not showing on above given link of Fountain tool on sdwiki. This was the procedure on Fountain tool which I followed: "First, I clicked on Submit, then a box opened "Add on behalf of: JogiAsad, clicked Next, a next box asking for Article's title: here in this box I typed article's title, and clicked next, now on next window the article title showed in red saying this article was not found you can create it, besides this there was two buttons 'Back', 'Add', Back button was clickable but Add button was not clickable". Kindly resolve technical flaws, errors as elaborated above. Thanks 🙏 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JogiAsad (talk)

Pinging @Ле Лой: please assist. --Tiven2240 (talk) 17:07, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
JogiAsad, Tiven2240, should be done by now, please check. Le Loy 05:10, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your valuable technical help, This is the actual Gobustan Rock Art article, it still doesn't shows Fountain Tool for WAM 2019 on sdwiki, and statistics, my username as a user, article, points are not showing. I am gonna submit another article via this tool, then inform you of further details. JogiAsad (talk) 09:19, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ле Лой: Hi, I have submitted another (my 2nd article for WAM 19) via Fountain tool, but Gobustan Rock Art and it's Maiden Tower (Baku) doesn't show on Fountain tool. JogiAsad (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

New article in Waray Wikipedia as entry to the 2019 Wikipedia Asian Month[edit]

Good day! I just created a new article in the Waray Wikipedia (here) and I wish to send it as entry for the 2019 Wikipedia Asian Month. But I found out that the Fountain tool only accepts new articles in the English Wikipedia. I would like to ask if the Wikipedia Asian Month only allows new (Asian-topic) articles in the English language or if it could accept entries from other languages. Thanks! —Nairb.Idi9 (talk)

@Nairb.Idi9: There seems some issues with the tool. It will be fixed soon. Stay tuned. --Tiven2240 (talk) 17:03, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
@Tiven2240: I surely will. Thanks! —Nairb.Idi9 (talk)
Done a couple of hours earlier... Le Loy 05:15, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

word count controversies[edit]

@Ле Лой: Hello, we got some complaints that the Fountain tool apparently counts words wrong in Hungarian. For example hu:Hanamaki repülőtér is deemed to have 227 words by Fountain but if I copy-paste the text (excluding templates, infoboxes and citations etc.) into Word, it gives me a word count of 341. Is it possible to understand how the algorithm defines "word"? Thanks a lot. Teemeah (talk) 13:53, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

  • Teemeah, Fountain only counts characters and words in coherent text, not in tables, quotes, lists, footnotes, headers and comments. Word includes these ones (except for comments) in its count, hence the difference. Le Loy 22:24, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Ле Лой this still does not account for the difference. It seems like that Fountain ignores much of the written text, too. We cleaned up the text, clearing off all templates and headers etc. and it still doesn't give the correct word count. Teemeah (talk) 15:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Oh gosh, lists, too? That's wrong though... Sometimes it is clearer to list certain things in an articles than to write them into sentences. In any case, then, it seems that converting the list part back to normal fluid text solved the counting issue in Fountain. I would very much advise to rethink this restriction. If an article only contains a list, the jury can still disapprove it, but this discriminates other articles that may have a small portion of a list included. Teemeah (talk) 15:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Questions from User:Wei4Green[edit]

Hi, committee and all organizers of WAM. I contacted both User:Ле Лой and User:AddisWang for help as an organizer, but I think organizing my questions here would be better (all questions are in bold to navigate clearly). I have multiple questions to ask...

...as an editor (Quotes from Wikipedia Asian Month 2019/Organiser Guidelines#Rules):

  • The article is newly created by you (i.e. not expanding stubs) between November 1, 2019 0:00 and November 30, 2019 23:59 (UTC). What if there are both an article and an approved draft of the same topic created by different editors? Who is the real creator of the article (or topic in this case)?
'Approved drafts' are not participating in WAM. Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
But what if the creator of the approved draft got his/her draft approved and replaced the existing article earlier?
Only new articles are accepted. If someone tries to submit an article that they haven't created, Fountain won't let them. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • The article should be at least 3,000 bytes and at least 300 words in length. (exclude Infobox, template etc.) Which requirement excludes the templates, etc.? The 3,000-bytes or the 300-words requirement? Does it also exclude HTML tags?
The 300-word requirement excludes templates etc. The word count is done automatically by the WAM tool (Fountain). Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done
  • The article should not be a list. Could the article be a disambiguation-like or list-like article (e.g. en:Elizabeth (given name))?
No. Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Why? Aren't they also articles?
Because the contest is organised this way. And no, they are not articles. See en:WP:DPAGE. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • The article should be about any topic concerning an Asian country. Could the article be about multiple Asian countries and/or territories?
Yes. If your language edition doesn't have articles like 'Asia' or 'Indochina' or 'Mekong river' they all can be created for this editathon and will be deemed 'on-topic'. Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
What about international relations?
Same. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

...as a potential organizer for Simple English Wikipedia, English Wikipedia, and/or Chinese Wikipedia (Quotes from Wikipedia Asian Month 2019/Organiser Guidelines#Preparation and Wikipedia Asian Month/QA#Organizing):

  • Before 27 October 2019 . . . Post an invitation message on the village pump, Community bulletin board, mailing list, or even make a Site Notice, around two weeks before it starts. I only signed up for organizing Simple English Wikipedia's WAM contest today, so what should I do to make it more visible than ever to editors on Simple English Wikipedia?
Post an invitation message on the village pump, Community bulletin board, mailing list, or even make a Site Notice :) Better late than never. Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
How do I make one of those WAM banners that appear on top of articles?
CentralNotice/Request. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • A tool for keeping track participants' progress shall be available here (hosted at Tool Labs). What title, code, and project name should I fill out when I add a new project?
Look at the other editathons: English one has 'Wikipedia Asian Month 2019' as the title, 'asian-month-2019-en' as the code and it's held in en-wiki. Simple English one would have 'Wikipedia Asian Month 2019' as the title, 'asian-month-2019-simple' as the code and 'simple' as the project. I can see there's a bug that doesn't allow to type 'sim' in the Project field but you can copy-paste it from here. Le Loy 22:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
I typed in what you said, but why does the title field show that "[Wikipedia Asian Month 2019] already exists"?
Ah, right. Because it does :) Try 'Wikipedia Asian Month 2019 Simple' or something similar. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Could I organize multiple contests? Could organizers participate as an editor to win? Could organizers approve their own article entry?
Yes, yes, yes. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • How do I select the jury? Is the jury the same as organizers?
    Wei4Green#TeamTrees🌲 20:18, 7 November 2019 (UTC)


The jury should include some experienced editors who can check if submitted articles adhere to the rules. Invite them by writing to their talk pages and add them as jury members once they agree. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Wei4Green, see above. Le Loy 22:36, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
    • @Ле Лой: I have more questions above. They are all in bold. —Wei4Green#TeamTrees🌲 23:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
      • Wei4Green, see above. Also, overusing bold doesn't help reading; list identation helps figuring out how fresh the reply is. Le Loy 01:55, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
        Hello @Ле Лой:, I checked it but the Fountain for simple isn't working. I checked from a different browser and it's still the same. I would like to help as a jury member so can you please help us in setting up the tool. Thank you :) --BRP ever 12:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

German banner[edit]

„Dieser November ist der Wikipedia Asien Monat“ is poor German. First of all it has always been „Asiatischer Monat“ and unlike in English you cannot put a „Wikipedia“ first in German (or it has to be „Wikipedia-Asien-Monat“). It would have been better „Dieser November ist Asiatischer Monat der Wikipedia.“ „Nimm am Wettbewerb teil und gewinne eine Postkarte aus Asien.“ is imperative mood so there has to be an exclamation mark at the end. NNW (talk) 14:21, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

@NordNordWest: where did you find seen the banner. Is it central notice or site notice? --Tiven2240 (talk) 17:58, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
Changed as NordNordWest suggested above. Stryn (talk) 18:17, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Organizing WAM2019[edit]

Hello, greetings from Assamese Wikimedia Community,

As you may know, Assamese-language Wikipedia is currently organizing Project Tiger 2.0 editahon. We as a small community don't have a lot of editors and the same few keep participating and organizing all the editathons. Since we are bit occupied with Project Tiger 2.0 now, we somehow missed out and didn't decide to organize Wikipedia Asian Month 2019. However, we have organized it earlier in 2015 and 2016 and would like to do the same this year as well. Will it be possible for us to organize it right after the Project Tiger 2.0 ends (which will end in January 2020)? I understand that it will be 2020 by the time Project Tiger 2.0 ends and I am not even sure if we will be logically able to call it Wikipedia Asian Month 2019. Looking forward to your feedback and suggestions. --SlowPhoton (talk) 09:52, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

@SlowPhoton: we are happy to inform you that Wikipedia Asian Month and project tiger 2.0 writing competition has a partnership with each other. You can run both contest together on a wiki. Articles made for Wikipedia Asian Month can be added to project tiger 2.0 writing competition. You are entitled to get both prizes. This is almost on every indic Wikipedia and all have accepted it. Hope your community too accepts it and y'all too join like the other indic Wikipedia communities. Feel free to discuss any issues. Regards. --Tiven2240 (talk) 14:15, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
@Tiven2240: I am aware of that, but we almost lost half of the month now. As we were occupied with Project Tiger 2.0, we somehow ended up not organizing WAM 2019. So now we are interested in organizing a dedicated Wikipedia Asian Month 2019. Please let us know if it is possible after Project Tiger 2.0 ends. --SlowPhoton (talk) 14:35, 11 November 2019 (UTC)