Wikibase Community User Group/Meetings/2021-10-31

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Online meeting of the Wikibase Community User Group.

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  • Welcome to this WikidataCon 2021 notes-taking document! Please treat it gently and help taking notes during the session. More information about the WikidataCon: https://wikidatacon.org and the schedule https://program.wikidatacon.org. ---------------✨---------------✨---------------
  • ✅ Information about the session ---------------✨---------------✨--------------- Title of the session: Wikibase Community User Group meeting and track roundup Speaker(s): Laurence "GreenReaper" Parry / Lozana Rossenova Useful links:    Telegram > https://t.me/joinchat/HGjGexZ9NE7BwpXzMsoDLA    Mailing list > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikibaseug Number of live participants: 33     ---------------✨---------------✨---------------
  • ❓ Questions & Answers ---------------✨---------------✨--------------- In this area, please add your questions for the speaker(s) and report questions that were asked in the chat, in order to help our facilitators to bring these questions to the speaker(s). Once the question has been answered, you can also add a summary of the answer. ---------------✨---------------✨--------------- 🖊️ 
  • Notes of the session ---------------✨---------------✨--------------- Please note down anything that could be relevant for future documentation: main talking points, interesting tools or projects mentioned during the session, relevant links...
    • David Fichtmueller: It is interesting to see other use cases of wikibase, but I liked in particular the presentations where the presenters shared special approaches and problems that were solved, that can also be useful to others, such as WikibaseSync.
    • Yes, we want to highlight what new things are happening in different instances, so we can learn form each other.
    • GR: maybe we can make more use of the Registry. ---------------✨---------------✨--------------- 💬  Chat of the session ---------------✨---------------✨---------------
  • [17:34] Welcome to Room 1!
  • [17:36] Lozana Rossenova: etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/WikidataCon2021-WikibaseCommunityUserGroup
  • [17:37] SJ: sorry that wikicite conflicted with this track -- plenty of overlap  today :)
  • [17:37] Addshore: Yes i can change it like that too
  • [17:37] Addshore: +1
  • [17:38] Addshore: Really good balance I think
  • [17:38] Addshore: so many sessions!
  • [17:38] Daniel Mietchen: Too much going on in parallel.
  • [17:39] SJ: one idea that came up in the open discussion at wikicite: the idea of a 'SuperWikiData' collection of large core wikibases, which may show up in a significant % of federated queries [17:39] Addshore: 18 sessions in 7 hours? :D
  • [17:39] Lozana Rossenova: a bit of video
  • [17:39] Lozana Rossenova: if anyone wants to join pls do
  • [17:39] Lozana Rossenova: this is the informal part of the programme
  • [17:39] Renat Shigapov: This is my first WikidataCon and I enjoyed it! But because of many parallel sessions, I have missed a lot.
  • [17:40] SJ: including things like scholarly-metadata wikibases, the Internet  Archive's new WP Citations DB, astro / genetics / other specialized WBs
  • [17:40] Addshore: Got a link? :)
  • [17:41] Daniel Mietchen: https://wikipediacitations.wiki.opencura.com/wiki/Main_Page
  • [17:41] Addshore: Hah, I love when I get linked to wbstack things I havn't seen yet
  • [17:41] SW: Speaking of DataTrek, I wish that talk hadn't been cut off!
  • [17:43] Addshore: +1 Join us!
  • [17:43] Magnus Sälgö salgo60: +1 accept all
  • [17:44] David Fichtmueller: It is interesting to see other use cases of wikibase, but I liked in particular the presentations where the presenters shared special approaches and problems that were solved, that can also be useful to others, such as WikibaseSync.
  • [17:45] Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry: Snuck off to find a backup webcam. :-)
  • [17:46] Addshore: i need a wbcam in the middle of my screen ...
  • [17:48] David Fichtmueller: https://wikibase-registry.wmflabs.org/wiki/Main_Page
  • [17:48] Daniel Mietchen: +1 for making more  active use of the registry
  • [17:48] Lozana Rossenova: +1
  • [17:48] Jeroen De Dauw: Page on wikiba.se?
  • [17:49] Susanna Ånäs | AvoinGLAM: Yes!
  • [17:50] Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry: Sorry for whoever is taking notes on this in Etherpad, lots of chat!
  • [17:50] Susanna Ånäs | AvoinGLAM: Or crowdsource
  • [17:50] Susanna Ånäs | AvoinGLAM: Exactly
  • [17:52] Daniel Mietchen: we should think of network parameters that give systemic resilience, i.e. avoid single points of failure. Roundtripping in multiple directions is a challenge though.
  • [17:52] Addshore: it will have backups, thats for sure ;)
  • [17:52] Addshore: data dumps for wbstack is certainly a requested feature
  • [17:53] Addshore: and can be provided manually, but will be automated in the future
  • [17:53] David Lindemann: So happy with wbstack.com, I could use it for my research data without admin hassle, and the support given in the telegram group is just wonderful.
  • [17:53] SJ: "One weird trick to getting your FQueries to complete before timing out!"
  • [17:54] ESM: +1 about what @David Lindemann said about the help in the Telegram group. Also, it's been nice to see who's actually behind the usual names connected with Wikibase :) ( *
  • [17:55] rdrg109: List of Wikimedia telegram channels: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Telegram
  • [17:55] rdrg109: Wikibase community on Telegram: https://t.me/joinchat/HGjGexZ9NE7BwpXzMsoDLA
  • [17:55] Magnus Sälgö salgo60: Skills acceleration:   "clone people" like MagnusManske, ,Lydia, LucasW, Addshore, JanAinali is more than important.... specially when we start adress communities that are not early adopters
  • [17:55] Hogü-456: What is a criteria to be allowd to join the UserGroup. I have thinked about creating some tools related to data processing and analysis that could also help maybe users of Wikibase and is the UserGroup a platform to discuss to get help how things could be done.
  • [17:56] Lozana Rossenova: No requirements to joining
  • [17:56] Lozana Rossenova: open to all
  • [17:57] David Fichtmueller: https://github.com/magnusmanske/cradle/blob/master/LICENSE it is MIT licensed now
  • [17:57] Addshore: woo! :P my tweeting at magnus worked
  • [17:58] David Fichtmueller: one last question: when is the next meetup scheduled?
  • [17:58] Addshore: With Sam & Tom!
  • [17:59] Magnus Sälgö salgo60: +1 domain experts
  • [17:59] Addshore: I know we are both british ;)
  • [17:59] SJ: +1
  • [17:59] Susanna Ånäs | AvoinGLAM: +1 Lozana
  • [17:59] Laurence 'GreenReaper' Parry: David: It's not but we're usually at the end of the month.
  • [17:59] Sarah (Tech Support): my pleasure :)
  • [18:00] Lozana Rossenova: Thanks Sarah!
  • [18:00] Addshore: g2g present my wikidata present, but will check the social room after :)
  • [18:00] David Fichtmueller: Thank you to everyone who did the Tech Support during the last three days!!!
  • [18:00] SJ: <3  tech support
  • [18:00] Renat Shigapov: Thank you!
  • [18:00] Magnus Sälgö salgo60: Thanks this is great news !!!!
  • [18:00] Sam Alipio: Thank you everyone! What an amazing track
  • [18:00] Alice Santiago Faria: Thank you!
  • [18:00] ESM: thank you!
  • [18:00] David Lindemann: Many thanks!!
  • [18:00] Sam Alipio: see you next year :)