Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Reading/Night mode

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Discussion[edit]

  • You should consider downloading an app or software that will adjust the tint and brightness on your computer. I currently use Flux and am looking at a rather-orange page. --Izno (talk) 02:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Windows 10 has a night mode (called "night light") that removes much of the blue from the screen, which is easier on the eyes. However, I agree that a dark-theme night mode would be nice. Most WMF wikis are a wall of white/off-white background (Commons, where the page you're viewing often has large images filling the screen is somewhat of an exception). Removing the blue hue from the display is only a partial fix to the problem...a dark theme would be much better. AHeneen (talk) 08:43, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
  • @Premeditated Chaos: The 2017 survey item offers several existing solutions. Could you elaborate what blocks you from using functionality provided by your operating system, by a separate application, or by using StylishThemes/Wikipedia-Dark ? Thanks! --AKlapper (WMF) (talk) 11:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I didn't make this request, but in reply to @AKlapper (WMF):, Wikipedia-Dark doesn't support Safari and Stylish doesn't officially support Safari either. Stylish has also had security issues in the past. Personally, I'm not going to install a browser extension just to get dark mode for one site, and I imagine a lot of other people are in the same camp. Plus, many people likely aren't aware that's even an option. Additionally, while flux and similar are useful (I have flux installed and tuned to be more aggressive than normal), I still find Wikipedia difficult to use at night. Flux or similar apps simply do not do enough to make Wikipedia comfortable to use at night. A native dark theme would really be appreciated and I don't think it's an unreasonable request, especially considering the mobile app for Wikipedia already has this. --OverlordOdin (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
  • I use mw:Skin:Vector-DarkCSS. Works pretty well; could be made into a gadget pretty easily.. Galobtter (talk) 18:54, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
    Would it be imaginable to add this CSS in the option of Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering? It would make it more visible to users. Cheers, VIGNERON * discut. 14:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
    VIGNERON, Isarra seems to be working in regards to adding the ability to choose variants for skins (such as a dark version). Galobtter (talk) 08:38, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Why not just use tools like this? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 10:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
    @1997kB Darkreader seems pretty awesome, better than the 'High Contrast' Chrome extension that I was using previously. I also agree that this is somewhat unnecessary and would be a waste of resources when there are so many good other tools available. That being said, as this is likely already in the top 10, it should be done with Automatic sliders for when you want it enabled and disabled (you can set your time zone on WP, why not). Moreover, it should add the option to add a 'dark' theme as the alternate to any theme selected, (e.g. dark Vector, dark timeless) and then give an option to enable this for certain parts of the day/night or as a toggle. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 15:44, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Can we do this for this page as well? Nikkimaria (talk) 22:06, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Tom Ja claims it would save energy, but I doubt this is significant, as per https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/4373/does-a-webpage-with-a-black-background-save-energy, unless things have changed. PJTraill (talk) 00:37, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
    @PJTraill It would not save energy for LCD screens (the vast majority of computer monitors), which have a backlight that is on regardless of whether the pixels are black (blocking the backlight) or white (letting the backlight shine through). However a lot of TVs and an increasing percentage of new smartphones have OLED screens, where the little diodes each release light themselves (thus less light=less power use). I would highly suggest that the night mode is also developed for wiki-mobile and the app as well for this reason. — Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 09:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
    The apps do already have a dark/night theme. ESanders (WMF) (talk) 16:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Huge support for this. I already use f.lux and other blueblockers to mitigate a vision disability, as well as some dark themes for browsers. However blanket colour inversion is sometimes impractical for many reasons, especially when online and/or working with images. Native night modes are far superior to 'wall-of-white' for users like myself. Wiki night mode would be lovely imo. ifny (talk) 01:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Note that my very similar proposal (Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Reading/Accessibility settings for everyone) basically includes this feature, and a bit more. It is also intended to be available to logged-out users. Please consider building this, with an eye towards future expand-ability for those other accessibility/usability aspects. Quiddity (talk) 06:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
  • See also mw:Requests for comment/Themes in core which is very relevant if it moves forward. Quiddity (talk) 23:57, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Voting[edit]

  • Support Support This would be a great usability feature for Wikipedia on the web. It would also keep the site's features consistent with the app, which has two dark themes. OverlordOdin (talk) 18:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support SEMMENDINGER (talk) 19:29, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support James Martindale (talk) 19:47, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Badly needed, even when enwiki already has the dark mode with green text all over. George Ho (talk) 20:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Now both Apple and Google are introducing dark mode to their products. It has even energical benefits (devices consume less power), not to mention health benefits. Tom Ja (talk) 23:50, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Consulnico (talk) 23:56, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Super Wang on zhwiki (Share your opinions) 00:00, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support DonBarredora (talk) 00:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yousou (talk) 00:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Gehenna1510 (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Also make one for Timeless! Enterprisey (talk) 04:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Hiàn (talk) 04:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 09:09, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:22, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ZellmerLP (talk) 10:29, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --Alaa :)..! 10:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nimrodbr (talk) 10:51, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support J. N. Squire (talk) 10:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Libcub (talk) 11:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yeah this seems reasonable; would love to have a Wikipedia night mode. SshibumXZ (talk) 17:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Cabayi (talk) 17:41, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Amir (talk) 19:15, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yes. I modified my CSS to make the content area darker as a semi-fix for this, but a properly designed skin that is nice on the eyes would be excellent. – Ajraddatz (talk) 19:49, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Nightdevil (talk) 20:00, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Yamaha5 (talk) 20:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support MehdiTalk 20:37, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportThanks for the fish! talkcontribs 20:39, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Agusbou2015 (talk) 20:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Oops, forgot to vote for my own topic. Premeditated Chaos (talk) 21:27, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
    Your vote is automatically counted when you propose, Premeditated Chaos. This is a double vote. George Ho (talk) 23:56, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
    Is it? I got a reminder on my talk page telling me not to forget to support it. Premeditated Chaos (talk) 00:51, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
    They automatically counted proposers as "support" votes for prior wishlists. Seems that the person who notified you was unaware of it. --George Ho (talk) 02:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
    By the way, I fixed the asterisk formatting on your behalf. George Ho (talk) 02:26, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Darwinek (talk) 01:35, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Kpgjhpjm (talk) 02:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wunkt2 (talk) 03:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support AHeneen (talk) 05:52, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Poya-P (talk) 06:23, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support This would be so great. Abductive (talk) 10:01, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Szalax (talk) 10:07, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jules78120 (talk) 10:19, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support فرهنگ2016 (talk) 10:41, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Richard Nevell (talk) 10:49, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sharaky Talk 10:55, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Arbeite19 (talk) 11:14, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Мурад 97 (talk) 11:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:28, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support it would be very useful more could be a Gadgets and already has an example on Minecraft Wiki in Portuguese and German (MediaWiki:Gadget-nightmode.js and MediaWiki:Gadget-nightmode.css Eduaddad (talk) 15:00, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Coldbolt (talk) 15:10, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support — Draceane talkcontrib. 17:09, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ~ Amory (utc) 17:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support stwalkerster (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Fatemi 18:54, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Wesalius (talk) 21:12, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support SupportMeiræ 22:28, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Funkysapien (talk) 02:34, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support FR30799386 (talk) 07:16, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support — regards, Revi 07:25, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Seems simple; I see no downside. Benjaminikuta (talk) 10:15, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Veikk0.ma (talk) 12:48, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support It could even be the default! Recared (talk) 15:13, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support - tucoxn\talk 16:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support -Xbony2 (talk) 16:43, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Unfortunately, this does not fix the blue hue at night, but it's a good start. (I'm not watching this page so please ping me if you want my attention.) Wumbolo (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support StringRay (talk) 22:18, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Gareth (talk) 12:42, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Lord van Tasm (talk) 13:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support«« Man77 »» [de] 13:34, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support I would be very happy to use Wikipedia and other Wikimedia wiki with night mode! Vulphere 15:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tim bates (talk) 21:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 22:52, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Terra  (talk) 03:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tisfoon (talk) 06:10, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Laboramus (talk) 07:37, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Bencemac (talk) 08:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Penegal (talk) 08:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 13:47, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support BugWarp (talk) 15:07, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Gce (talk) 18:39, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Topper13009 (talk) 20:05, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support a thousand times, yes. Nihlus 22:44, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support This seems like it would be really useful! TheAwesomeHwyh (talk) 12:13, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support CosmosAway (talk) 15:07, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support welcum to the dark side ーTesser4D 【🅱alk】 17:31, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Encycloon (talk) 18:39, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Arian Talk 19:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Petr Kinšt (talk) 19:34, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support SalmanZ (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Tetizeraz (talk) 23:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Emyds (talk) 23:20, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support AnuJuno (talk) 06:37, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support MisterSynergy (talk) 09:59, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support This would be really helpful, especially if it was obvious and could be users without accounts, having the ability to switch between view modes in the browser might also have some accessibility advantages. Assuming that users of Wikipedia have accounts or know how to install browser extensions is not inclusive. John Cummings (talk) 16:23, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sahaquiel9102 (talk) 17:28, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Might get some media interest. Mbrickn (talk) 21:15, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support James F. (talk) 22:42, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Vctrbarbieri (talk) 03:13, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Matěj Suchánek (talk) 09:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Hmxhmx 10:27, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support --SkyGazer 512 (talk) 13:41, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support There should be a button on all the pages, so you do not have to go to preferences. While this is approved, I'm installing High Contrast... --Mr Misterio2 (talk) 16:58, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support WindowPain (talk | contribs) 08:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Soumendrak (talk) 09:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support--►Neriman2003 talk 11:12, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Helder 13:24, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ranjithsiji (talk) 22:32, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support NankineseYang (talk) 00:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support From both a stylistic and functional standpoint, this would be awesome. — AfroThundr (u · t · c) 02:43, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support DerFussi 11:11, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ckoerner (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Whispering (talk) 21:35, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support - FlightTime (open channel) 22:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Miles.world (talk) 23:12, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Louis H. G. (talk) 01:03, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support ifny (talk) 01:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support PJTraill (talk) 10:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Linguistical (talk) 16:26, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support PrussianOwl (talk) 20:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Qono (talk) 21:22, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Oppose Oppose Ciao • Bestoernesto 01:36, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
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  • Support Support E1d4R (talk) 06:43, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Support Bennv3771 (talk) 10:21, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
  • Support Pile-on support Daniel Case (talk) 03:15, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
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  • Support Support JTP (talkcontribs) 01:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
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  • Support Support --OrsolyaVirág (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
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  • Support Support --GrandCelinien (talk) 17:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)