Community Wishlist Survey 2023/Anti-harassment/Notifications for user page edits

Random proposal ►◄ Anti-harassment  The survey has concluded. Here are the results!

Notifications for user page edits

• Problem: If your user page is modified by a malicious user, you may not notice if your watchlist is overflowed. Unlike a normal article, it is very unlikely that another user will revert or warn about the malicious changes for you. Unlike article vandalism, user page vandalism can affect the unwitting user's standing in the community.
• Proposed solution: Generate notifications for user page modifications by other users, just like user talk notifications work now. Another solution would be to protect user pages from modification, but some edits may be friendly and even useful.
• Who would benefit: Users whose user page has been vandalized.
• More comments: It could be made configurable per user. This is a re-submission of Community Wishlist Survey 2022/Anti-harassment/Notifications for user page edits by Error.
• Phabricator tickets: phab:T3876
• Proposer: MarioGom (talk) 16:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Discussion

• The request was successful in 2022, but it is requested again to attract attention by CommTech team. Thingofme (talk) 02:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
• I think this really belongs under "notifications and watchlists". Daniel Case (talk) 23:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
  • It logically makes sense there too, yes, but as the use-case is primarily for anti-harassment, I think it's fine to stay here. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 15:14, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
• FWIW this was #2 by votes and #6 by the CommTech team's combined priority score in 2022. There's some in-progress work courtesy of @Legoktm:. --Tgr (talk) 01:57, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
• WMF develeopment change alternative : What about adding a preference for a new notification option similar to "Edit to my user talk page"? Wakelamp (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
• If WMF resources are the bottle neck, could we use a new bot job that sends a notification for edits that are not done by bots or the owner. OR What about external page watch tools? They exist on apps and desktops. Wakelamp (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
• This would have to be optional, because I at least don't want these types of notifications. I trust that my homewiki userpage is defended by the abusefilter for the most part, and if that fails it's very likely that a RC patroller or another good faith user reverts the vandalism before I see it. I don't want to see it, and I don't even keep my userpage on my watchlist. --kyykaarme (talk) 15:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
• Instead of a notification, i think than an option for an user to protect his own page from edits would be more useful. Particularly for user under big harassment, casual users who rarely edit, are on "vacation", or think than their time has finally come... etc. Miniwark (talk) 10:17, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
• My hi: Wikipedia userpage was created by a vandal long ago. I never knew that my global userpage was being overriden by a blank white page for over 2 years. This is not desirable at all. —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 19:26, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
• @MarioGom: @MusikAnimal (WMF): Wouldn't it be even better if every user is notified not just for edits to their user pages, but for any edit to any page or subpage on any wiki belonging to someone's username? Nythar (talk) 14:17, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

  I believe having notifications for subpages is subject to debate, but it could likely easily be supported if we wanted it to be. Notifications will already be cross-wiki without any additional effort because of how Echo works. MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 14:56, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Voting

•  Strong support As someone who deals with vandals (including some LTAs) frequently, this is long overdue. ◇HelenDegenerate◆ 19:44, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Firestar464 (talk) 20:34, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I hope this can be done easily using a similar mechanism to talk page notifications. Certes (talk) 20:56, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support most definitely! Joshbaumgartner (talk) 21:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support with the condition that you should be able to turn this off at any time. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 22:27, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support LD (talk) 22:28, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support BluePenguin18 🐧 ( 💬 ) 22:54, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support DemonDays64 (talk) 23:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support HeyElliott (talk) 23:46, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ·addshore· ^{talk to me!} 00:02, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 00:30, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support XtexChooser (talk) 01:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Tgr (talk) 01:48, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Lalalalala7 (talk) 02:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Svartava (talk) 02:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 02:31, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Hehua (talk) 02:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Dreamy Jazz ^{talk to me | enwiki} 02:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Antonio B.1234 (talk) 02:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose Is there some reason the watchlist isn't sufficient for this? * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:40, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Pppery: For cross-wiki patrollers (or any editors who work on many wikis), it's highly unlikely that they can watchlist their user pages (if uncreated; since most wikis allow autoconfirmed users to edit other userpages) and/or keep checking them for vandalism. As stated above, [u]nlike article vandalism, user page vandalism can affect the unwitting user's standing in the community, so usually it is much more urgent to be alerted of it. Svartava (talk) 05:43, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

  @Pppery: In my case, my watchlist has hundreds of items so I rarely check it, but I swiftly address notifications.--Error (talk) 10:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

•  Support Khoshhat (talk) 04:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Spencer (talk) 04:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support EpicPupper (talk) 05:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Soumendrak (talk) 06:16, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Doktor Züm (talk) 06:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Transient-understanding (talk) 07:38, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Arado Ar 196 (talk) 08:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Martin-78 ^{(discutailler)} 08:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Jim Hokins (talk) 08:05, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Oltrepier (talk) 08:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Szymonel (talk) 09:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —Bruce1ee^talk 09:15, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support CaféBuzz (talk) 10:00, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support //Lollipoplollipoplollipop::talk 10:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Sebleouf (talk) 10:07, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Waldyrious (talk) 10:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Mirliz (talk) 11:46, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support User:Djm-leighpark_(a)^talk 12:41, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support SunDawn (talk) 12:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Golmote (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Hervegirod (talk) 12:55, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Wyslijp16 (talk) 13:20, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Tiputini (talk) 13:32, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Lupe (talk) 13:36, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support OwenBlacker (Talk) 14:08, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Strong support I kind of assumed something like this was already in-place. Yikes. Alhadis (talk) 14:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support This is long overdue and should be notified. Thingofme (talk) 14:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support -- Spielvogel (talk) 14:56, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Bluerasberry (talk) 15:01, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support CROIX (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support FinixFighter (talk) 15:27, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Realmartcraft (talk) 17:03, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:53, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Vukky (talk) 18:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Thomas Kinz (talk) 19:21, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support De nue pw (talk) 22:22, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Gohan 03:14, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Betseg (talk) 03:59, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support HLFan (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support EnIRtpf09b (talk) 07:33, 12 February 2023 (UTC).
•  Strong support i deal with vandals to the point they frequently vandalized my User Page (along with talk page) on some projects that i was unaware of until an admin protected my user page and notified me of what happened. 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 13:35, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Daniuu (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Bencemac (talk) 20:14, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Funcrunch (talk) 23:40, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support — Officine Informatiche ^msg 09:02, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support BRP ^ever 10:03, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Strong support Error (talk) 10:15, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support JAn Dudík (talk) 10:28, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support -- EN-Jungwon 10:34, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support β₁₆ - (talk) 10:36, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Maybe include even subpages of the user and user talk pages? That would need a separate opt-out, though. Tacsipacsi (talk) 11:01, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Syunsyunminmin 🗨️talk 13:52, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Airtransat236 (talk) 16:08, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 21:29, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Minarin^[talk] 22:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ドラみそ (talk) 02:59, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support To make Wikipedia universally acceptable, it should avoid all kinds of controversial topics including obscenity, blasphemy. Hossain Muhammad Ramzan (talk) 04:48, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Strong support - I hope, as this proposal's technical development begins that developers will extend the scope of notification need to also include user/subpage edits/moves. It seems reasonable, to me, that T296955 could be concurrently resolved with the same technical effort needed for the sole implementation of this proposal in isolation.--John Cline (talk) 05:07, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support SpacedShark (talk) 05:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Mikxth (talk) 12:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ZandDev (talk) 12:53, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Meganinja202 (talk) 14:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Barkeep49 (talk) 16:42, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Labdajiwa (talk) 00:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Rzuwig^► 09:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support cyrfaw (talk) 11:37, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support PRmaster1 (talk) 12:42, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Mike gigs (talk) 15:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —MdsShakil (talk) 18:12, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support PumpkinHusky (talk) 19:06, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Aishik Rehman (talk) 06:59, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ABAL1412 (talk) 14:08, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Hey man im josh (talk) 15:13, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support JFremd (talk) 15:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support OtroQus (talk) 17:35, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Kays (talk) 02:29, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:35, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Gubeko (talk) 10:08, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support ~ Amory (u • t • c) 16:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —‍CX Zoom (A/अ/অ) (let's talk|contribs) 19:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support As long as it's like undo notifications where you can turn them off when you want, I think this is a great idea. -- Ferien (talk) 20:17, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Totalstgamer (talk) 22:18, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Dankowski (talk) 22:52, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support DoublePendulumAttractor (talk) 06:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support -- Karelj (talk) 08:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Yining Chen (Talk) 10:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Fabius Lector (talk) 11:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support MarioGom (talk) 12:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Trimton (talk) 15:15, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Teafed (talk) 20:51, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Kess (talk) 05:21, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Blue Edits (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Ïvana (talk) 01:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Hans5958 (talk) 02:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support I support this as vandalism of their user talk causes editors to quit, but we need a better process for watchlists due to thei increasing length, Wakelamp (talk) 10:18, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Nashona (talk) 14:41, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Yes, useful PamD (talk) 15:16, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Krzysiek 123456789 (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Kcat37 (talk) 13:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support DrowssapSMM (talk) 16:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Rosewood (talk) 14:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Tryvix ^t 14:27, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support XRozuRozu (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 02:05, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support --Tchoř (talk) 10:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support NicoScribe (talk) 20:46, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:52, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support Krokofant (talk) 09:32, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
•  SupportAs an opt-in in Special:Preferences, like user talk notification emails. TheDragonFire300 (talk) 13:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
•  Support as last year. ~~~~
  User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:23, 24 February 2023 (UTC)