Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Categories/Add sorting options in category pages

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  • Problem: Categories are a powerful tool to search pages. However, category pages only show the page's name, and there's a single sorting method, which reduces their usefulness.
  • Who would benefit: Readers and editors alike.
  • Proposed solution: Category pages should have an option to select the sorting type, for example category tag, page name, file size, first edit date, last edit date, number of editions, and page views. These values must be displayed of course.
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets: T71417, T61108, T42870
  • Proposer: NaBUru38 (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Discussion

  • Yes, that would be nice. I've added some possibly related Phabricator tickets. — Draceane talkcontrib. 16:56, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
  • @Kenraiz: I have merged your very similar proposal here. Hope that's okay! A copy the other proposal:
  • Problem: Content of Commons categories is displayed now in alphabetical order. Only. I wish we could sort content according to: size of file; date of file (chronological and on an annual basis - useful for landscapes and nature); type of file (extensions), number of uses of files.
  • Who would benefit: All users who need to find specific file in large categories.
  • Proposed solution: ?
  • More comments:
  • Phabricator tickets:
  • Proposer: Kenraiz (talk) 01:07, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Best, MusikAnimal (WMF) (talk) 16:32, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Categories are a weird realm in that they're ostensibly for readers, but de facto used mostly by editors. As a reader, the thing I'd really like to see long-term is a merging of categories and lists, such that it'd be possible to sort by things like date of birth for a people list. The more page metadata-related sorting functions proposed here would be useful for me as an editor, but if this gains support, I'd want to see it implemented in a way that doesn't add clutter for readers, who aren't very likely to want to sort by last edit date. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 04:51, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm increasingly of the mind that the best way to handle "categories" on Wikipedia is with Wikidata. Rather than create some fixed methods of sorting our cumbersome and strange tagging system, allow for easier (and limited, for the purpose of usability) querying of Wikidata to do everything. If you build a system on Wikidata queries, supply it with a set of properties it can use, then it would take less effort to just change those properties down the road than to modify the way mediawiki runs category pages. Categories on Commons, however, serve a rather more fundamental purpose at the moment, so it may be worth it for there, but I'm still kind of skeptical. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Can't we already do this with Petscan ? T. Le Berre, the french serpent à plumesTry and talk to me buddy 01:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting

  • Support Support Stryn (talk) 18:24, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Sgd. —Hasley 18:29, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support Thryduulf (talk: meta · en.wp · wikidata) 20:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:27, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support Tmv (talk) 07:37, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Not so sure about the specifics here but there's definitely scope for making categories more useful. Samwalton9 (talk) 09:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Michal0803 (talk) 09:36, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support Sakretsu (炸裂) 11:34, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Steven Sun (talk) 13:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Kaybeesquared (talk) 13:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Neutral Neutral oppose as it pertains to Wikipedia, not because I think it's a bad idea (anything to make categories more useful than they are), but because I don't think it's smart to invest more resources in an awkward system that should just be replaced/exported entirely per what I wrote above. On Commons it would fill a more imminent need (on Wikipedia, we wikilink to various pages, have lists, etc. -- on Commons, file and category pages are about all we have as nobody uses galleries) but with the introduction of structured data on Commons it's possible that's better served by Wikidata, too. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:46, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Ghost Iridescent (talk) 14:40, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Especially for Commons. Sannita - not just another it.wiki sysop 15:12, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support Great idea! Ahecht (TALK
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  • Support Support Depending on how it is designed and implemented, this could be great. --Mathieugp (talk) 19:00, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support It is important to bring more information when searching for one page by category. WikiFer msg 19:18, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support -Xbony2 (talk) 19:23, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support Yes, our categories are kind of a joke. Very 2005-ish level of usefulness.  — SMcCandlish ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ʌ<  05:10, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Jurbop (talk) 07:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support F. Riedelio (talk) 10:10, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Strongly agree with User:Sdkb's comment. This should be developed mainly with readers in mind, as should most navigational features on Wiki. Joalbertine (talk) 14:50, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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  • Support Support As long as it is feasible server load wise at the moment. Otherwise I guess this can be solved by gadgets for smaller categories, or by some tool for the bigger ones. Base (talk) 20:32, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support Owleksandra (talk) 20:33, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
  • Support Support From a Commons POV: Use of sortkeys is often either absent, or arbitary; This would add a useful tool for finding media ~~ Alex Noble - talk 14:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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