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Request for MassMessage sender rights

Hi, I'm the global coordinator of the Wikipedia Library. I look after global outreach, reaching out to coordinators of the Wikipedia Library on non-English Wikipedias. In that role I wish to send global mass messages to coordinators and I'd like to have the MassMessage sender rights. Thanks—UY Scuti Talk 18:44, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

The MassMessage sender rights have been assigned. --Vogone (talk) 19:28, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Edit spelling mistake

Hello, please edit all WikiMOOC banners and correct Le site est soumis à ses prop res politiques de confidentialité et conditions d'utilisation [1]. @Jules WMFr:. Thanks. -Framawiki (please notify !) (talk) 17:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Special:Diff/16292842 should fix it. —MarcoAurelio 18:31, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
@Framawiki and MarcoAurelio:: it's not a spelling mistake, can you auto-revert, MarcAurelio, pls? There is 1 "politique", not 2. Explanation in french for Framawiki : il s'agit d'une part de la politique de confidentialité (elle est unique), et d'autre part des conditions d'utilisation (qui sont au pluriel). Reformulé, pour bien te rendre compte qu'il n'y a pas de faute, cela donne : « Le site est soumis à sa propre politique de confidentialité et à ses propres conditions d'utilisation. » ;-) Jules WMFr (talk) 10:09, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
C'est fait. —MarcoAurelio 10:17, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Request for MassMessage sender rights

Hi, I'm a coordinator of Whose Knowledge?. Being able to mass message folks who participate in our user group activities across wikis would be really helpful. I've used Mass Message (and global message delivery before that) from my former User:Siko (WMF) account without breaking anything. Possible to have this right added to my volunteer account? Thanks! Siko (talk) 02:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Done. —MarcoAurelio 12:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: —MarcoAurelio 12:40, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


Can someone mark Steward_requests/Checkuser/Introduction for translation? Ruslik (talk) 20:56, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Done. Matiia (talk) 21:02, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 21:01, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Inspire CentralNotice in Ukrainian


Could anyone please publish the Inspire CentralNotice in Ukrainian (CNBanner:Inspire knowledge-inspireknowledge-text1/uk and CNBanner:Inspire knowledge-inspirehar-text2/uk)? It has been reviewed more than a week ago but we still keep seeing the text in English. Thanks — NickK (talk) 09:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I have published them twice now: log, but for some reason the messages are not changed from English to Ukrainian? Stryn (talk) 09:42, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Worked for me. --Base (talk) 20:35, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah or not, the one for which I published is the Inspire know banner, not Inspire knowledge. Looking into it, though the knowledge one is now disabled it seems. --Base (talk) 20:41, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
There's indeed something strange, as I have marked the Finnish CNBanners as published as well, but the texts are still shown in English. Stryn (talk) 13:43, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Which banner? --Base (talk) 20:35, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Special:Translate/Centralnotice-tgroup-inspire_knowledge. The Finnish banner should be "published", but just now I still see it in English in wikt:fi:. And yes, the interface language is in Finnish for me there. Stryn (talk) 20:40, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
By the way are you sure you don't see the Inspire know banner? Inspire knowledge campaign seems to be sisabled since 31 of January if I am not misreading those hard to grasp CN logs. --Base (talk) 20:44, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Oh I see Inspire know has link to Inspire knowledge banner translation that must have caused the commotion, heh. --Base (talk) 20:47, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Well this is what I see: [2] (screenshot uploaded to Stryn (talk) 20:51, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Ukrainian and Suomi should be fine now I want to believe, I've copypasted the translation for the latter one. But there are still like two dozen of other languages with the same problem meh meh meh. --Base (talk) 20:56, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I wonder who's idea was to create 2 different banners (or same, I don't understand anymore) with the same texts... Stryn (talk) 20:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I JethroBT (WMF)'s probably. --Base (talk) 21:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Hey folks. The English text for the current banner actually lives at CNBanner:Inspire_know-inspire_know-text1/en and CNBanner:Inspire_know-inspire_know-text2/en, so any translations should go to those. The actual banner is this one Special:CentralNoticeBanners/Edit/Inspire_know. The old banner I created (Special:CentralNoticeBanners/Edit/inspire_knowledge) was not playing nicely with new translations; I cloned it from the previous campaign on addressing harassment. I cloned it because some of the messaging was the same and figured it would be good to preserve those translations. The problem was that new translations weren't being recognized across many languages, and I got complaints about translations not appearing even when they were done, and so I pulled the banner. Jseddon (WMF) and I were trying to work out exactly how to fix it, but it became very clear that starting over fresh and putting in old translations manually was going to be easier than fixing the existing banner. The old banner (Special:CentralNoticeBanners/Edit/inspire_knowledge) and its components can be deleted at this point. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
@Base: FYI I found CentralNotice/Request#Central_Notice_Admin_comments_5 if you are not aware. Stryn (talk) 21:20, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I wasn't aware. Oh it is just wonderful. Not only we have several dozens of misplaced translations because of the wrong link but some of them are characterized as bizarre.. I guess I will move all the translations anyway, if some of them are found to be bad they can be deleted, though the situation really sucks :/ --Base (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah I see so the problems were technical, that is ok then. I was afraid it was a comment about translations quality. I am going on then with clear conscience. --Base (talk) 21:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Yeah. Sorry about the trouble, and thanks for calling my attention to it. Seddon and I have agreed that standard language for these campaigns going ahead will be better so these sorts of translation issues can be avoided. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I've moved I think all the translations from the old banner, approved those where first message was translated. I am done with this, if someone wants to approve some more they are welcome :) --Base (talk) 22:10, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 14 February 2017 – Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-08

I want to correct the invalid HTML tags <span/> and <br/> in Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2007-08 to remove this page from Category:Pages using invalid self-closed HTML tags. An administrator can do this too. Thanks for a reply to. --Plagiat (talk) 02:08, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Maybe an admin can work off Category:Pages using invalid self-closed HTML tags, because the remaining pages are protected. --Plagiat (talk) 02:28, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Users have been informed about invalid tags in their scripts. --Plagiat (talk) 17:12, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Request to update page Oversight policy

Hello. AN Oversighter has been accused and removed access. See this link. However on Oversight policy in Metawiki, this user is still on the list of local Oversighter of Chinese Wikipedia. Please remove this user from the list on Oversight policy and several translated pages. --TechyanTalk) 05:27, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done --Az1568 (talk) 05:54, 14 February 2017 (UTC)


I am among the editors active on Marathi (MrWp) Since I am confused where to ask for help in the matter please guide me if I am wrong. I wanted 2 bots for the MrWp 1=sinebot for signing pages and 2=A bot which will catagorise untagged (unlicensed) pictures on the Marathi Wikipedia. Do assist me with the same.--Tiven2240 (talk) 13:11, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

@Tiven2240: hi, this page is intended only to request administrative actions to be performed on this wiki, Meta. If you want to request the bot flag for any bot to perform actions at the Marathi Wikipedia you should go to mr:विकिपीडिया:Bot. If you want to request the asistence of any bot to perform actions at the Marathi Wikipedia you can request it at the village pump on the Marathi Wikipedia or at the Wikimedia Forum. You can also request the asistence of any bot at the talk page of its controller. Regards.--Syum90 (talk) 11:49, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Any bot have to be approved at mr:विकिपीडिया:Bot before performing actions on the Marathi Wikipedia.--Syum90 (talk) 12:13, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Frank Dambe

I have just blanked user:Frank Dambe and received a vandalism warning for my pains. If I had seen the page on Wikipedia I would have zapped it instantly as a fake article. If you allow such here on meta, feel free to revert my edit. RHaworth (talk) 12:34, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@RHaworth: hi, the page was deleted by Tegel. Where did you receive the warning?, I don't see any warning on your talk page.--Syum90 (talk) 11:34, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Probably this and this abuselog entries. Better put {{Delete}} for that in the future. — regards, Revi 11:42, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks revi, probably he is referring to these warnings. As revi says it's better to add the template {{Delete}} instead of blanking the page in order to avoid activating a filter. Regards.--Syum90 (talk) 11:57, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)


Perhaps an admin might want to look closer at recent activity of this user on Steward requests/Global, especially his "archiving" actions. --jdx Re: 08:53, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

They've reverted themself, so there is nothing to do. -Barras talk 17:01, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Please unprotect Berlin

Could s/o please rmv the 2008 protection from Berlin, I want to add info about Berlin Wikimedia meetups & events. Thx in adv. --.js ((())) 21:55, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Done Stryn (talk) 21:58, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Move request

Could we move Help:Meetup back to Meetup, or even better to Meetups? That move was a mistake imho, nothing to do with "Angola". --.js ((())) 15:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Done, move reverted. --Steinsplitter (talk) 15:11, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
This section was archived on a request by: Matiia (talk) 01:58, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

inspire campaign banner has unset image dimensions

Hi, the Centralbanner for the inspire campaign has (once again) no dimensions for the image that it includes. This is HUGELY disruptive during the loading phase of the pages. Please fix immediately.—TheDJ (talkcontribs) 20:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@TheDJ: I've never noticed this issue before, so thanks for bringing it up. The dimensions are defined, but I never saw an instance where a full image would be plastered all over the page when the banner was loaded. I've reduced the size of the source image. I JethroBT (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
This happens whenever the JS is loaded before the CSS is loaded (pretty common in low connectivity situations). If you don't set the width and height of the img element, it will take the default size (and SVGs can have a rather large default size). You should NEVER EVER have an img element without specifying the width and height attribute or alternatively a width and height in the inline style attribute of the img element. We enforce this pretty strictly in MediaWiki core and WMF extensions, but unfortunately the CentralNotice system has HTML and CSS that isn't properly linted, nor code reviewed. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 22:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm failing at 2FA

Having had three broken cell phones in the course of a few weeks I have managed to lose both my authenticator app and my scratch codes (or at least I have yet to find them in what backups I managed to make). I'm hoping there is some way I can regain access through other means of verification. Any help would be greatly appreciated. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Please file a request at phabricator:. The people there will instruct you what to do. Kind regards, --Vogone (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Request unblock

Since I cannot due so on my own talk page I will request here. I request my account, Reguyla be unblocked. I cannot request there because it has been restricted to admin only. 20:34, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

I would indeed rather have you editing with your account than with changing IPs, but I think Stemoc has made clear that his unblock might have been the last one. Why do you think that you deserve yet another chance to make use of editing privileges on this wiki? --Vogone (talk) 22:36, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
It's been years of this nonsense, and unfortunately my willingness to listen probably caused it to go on longer than it should have. Reguyla has repeatedly shown that he's here primarily to whine and harass. Even today, he was accusing me of blocking him just so he couldn't oppose my steward confirmation (because I have so much difficulty at those, I guess?). The bad faith lies just continue without a blink. Let's just stop that cycle. Revert, block, ignore. – Ajraddatz (talk) 22:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Just in case anyone isn't aware, I've been reverting further edits by Reguyla here. He has appealed the block - any admin can comment on that or overturn it, I don't care. But so long as the indef block remains, I will continue to enforce it. – Ajraddatz (talk) 18:57, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Removal off file mass message rights

I would like to request the removal off the mass message sender rights off EGalvez (WMF). There is a lack of competence and he uses the rights for unwanted spam and persist.

  • There was the reference-issue which had to be fixed and caused a lot of trouble
  • Complaints from NL-wiki because there is spam. The mailbot even had to be blocked.
  • Now there is spam at Wikimedia Commons and because blocked and locked users were included an admin blocked the bot.

The opt out function is terrible (only by mail). EGalvez knows that several users find that his message which is merely a reminder is spam and yet he continues to spam wiki’s.

Please revoke his access since randomly sending people messages in foreign languages can hardly be called in scope. Any volunteer who would do this would likely be warned after the first spam run and have his access revoked after the second spam run. The same should apply to WMF-staff who are not volunteers and therefore should know better. Natuur12 (talk) 14:20, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

  • Support removal. Mass messaging should be used cautiously and is a right that should be limited to appropriately experienced community members. The multiple complaints have not been addressed, and this has gone on so long it seems obvious that community complaints are being ignored. There should be no different expectation for competence, or at which stage action must be taken, whether someone incorrectly using their granted rights is a volunteer or a WMF employee. @JSutherland (WMF): as granting admin may wish to comment. -- (talk) 15:05, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

EGalvez (WMF) could you provide any input on this please? Unless I receive a confirmation that you are not going to message users who haven't opted-in anymore I am afraid I would indeed need to remove your MassMessage sender flag as communities blocking MediaWiki message delivery bot as the last resort led to a hugely disruptive state of affairs leaving interested users without important things such as Tech news. I suggest you also try to have MassMessages translated before sending it out, so that speakers of languages with many active translators do not get unnecessary posts in English. You can ask any active translate admin for help, and guys from the staff managing afore mentioned Tech news know how to send such messages out in pretty way. I am also pinding Jalexander-WMF and Mdennis (WMF) as dealing with staffers' userrights to be aware of the situation. Just in case it helps anyone, one can also force reject indiscriminately all MassMessages from his talk page by categorysing it into category mentioned in Mediawiki:Massmessage-optout-category ([[Category:{{int:Massmessage-optout-category}}]]). In case there's no improvement to the situation I am going to execute the removal and suggest to other admins to do the same if I am not around. I am not doing it right away only because a staffer can just as easily get rights restored so the communication way is more positive solution prone I believe. --Base (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Base! I appreciate you giving me a chance to share what is happening on my end. I also didn't realize that the message delivery blocks also blocked other messages - which makes me feel terrible and I am sorry. I have just spoken with Jalexander-WMF about this as well. We are not sending any more messages about this survey this year and I acknowledge that we must figure out less intrusive ways to send out the survey next year. We are going to be reaching out for feedback to those who opted in about how the survey went for them and how we can improve. I also want to reach out to those who posted on my talk page (and other spaces) about the survey to have individual conversations for feedback. About translation, I did work with the folks who send out Tech News messages to help me and I did translate the message into 12 languages (since the survey was translated into 12 languages). This is the first time we have done the survey in this way, and we are learning, and we plan to make improvements based on feedback next year. Again I really apologize for the disruption this has caused. Thanks --EGalvez (WMF) (talk) 00:05, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
"I also didn't realize that the message delivery blocks also blocked other messages - which makes me feel terrible and I am sorry." - it is concerning that a holder of the right does not know this, and if it were entirely up to me I would suggest removal. We expect better of our volunteers (any volunteer who did this would have had the rights removed by now), and even more so for WMF staff.
I've just skimmed User talk:EGalvez (WMF), and so far it seems to be the classic pattern of WMF doing something controversial -> the community gives constructive criticism -> WMF minimally addresses the concerns -> the community complains louder -> WMF doesn't do anything -> the community gives up and asks WMF to pull the plug on the whole thing.
For what it's worth, I might have been interested in participating in the survey too but did not as I felt uninvited. There must have been a better way than randomly spamming people. --Rschen7754 01:32, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
@Natuur12, Fæ, Base, Rschen7754: I really understand your reasonable anger, but please re-think who you are attacking. Edward (EGalvez) is not a volunteer like we are; his actions are not done in his free decision. That he did a kind of messaging he was not properly prepared to do is very annoying for us volunteers, but he has done this on advice of his disciplinarians, and they are responsible for giving him the advice and (not) the knowledge how to do so. That WMF failed again in teaching their staff basic principles of Wiki communication is an urgent issue, but has to be addressed otherwise: @Jimbo Wales and Katherine (WMF): please answer our questions if and how you are planning to improve your staff's on-wiki abilities to avoid such frequent controversial clashes with volunteers in the future? --.js[democracy needed] 15:02, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
I hereby withdraw my concerns and now fully support to remove the mass message rights off EGalvez (WMF). – Still I regard it as vital for the project that our highest authorities @Jimbo Wales, Katherine (WMF), Schiste, Raystorm, Lyzzy, Pundit, NTymkiv (WMF), and Kelly Battles: wake up and respond how and when they will address these issues. --.js ((())) 08:27, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Kelly Battles is not a user here btw @.js: --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 17:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
WMF needs to know they should always do things on "opt-in" basis, not "opt-out" basis or sending messages randomly. (Well, that messaging behavior is perfect "unsolicited bulk messages".) That being said, I fully support the removal. — regards, Revi 13:22, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Any admin around willing to deal with this request? Natuur12 (talk) 13:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
I don't think we can do anything here. Please lodge a complain to @Egalvez's manager or ask @Jalexander-WMF and JSutherland (WMF) to have a look, since they granted him the rights. Regards, —MarcoAurelio 13:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Hello all - my apologies for the lack of response on my part. As you can imagine, this was not a situation where I wanted to make a public statement before making sure I understood the whole context. This is a complicated situation, since Edward's role really does depend on alerting the projects to ongoing efforts to engage the communities with Wikimedia Foundation activity. Edward has acknowledged that he made mistakes in his use of the tool, and I do think he's genuinely willing to improve his processes going forward. As he’s indicated, there are no plans for more outreach related to this annual survey. He's working with his higher-ups at the Foundation to help with next steps regarding future mailouts. I don't think his actions constitute abuse of the tool - there is no manual for the use of this tool at this time, and those of you who have used the tool in the past will know how easy it is to make mistakes with it. I think that the clarification of expectations for all mass message tool users is something that needs to be improved going forward - not only for the benefit of staff who might be inexperienced with using the tool, but for everyone else as well. It’s an intimidating tool. Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 22:17, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
WMF financial development
So you generally blame it on the evil tool and a little bit on your fellow co-worker, but you @JSutherland (WMF) and Katherine (WMF): refuse to take any responsibility for not creating any procedures educating your staff how to communicate with the global volunteers. While that approach was already sloppy in the mid-2000s, it is really desastrous in 2017 with $ 92,000,000 in your cupboards. --.js ((())) 15:05, 10 March 2017 (UTC)