Stewards/Confirm/2024/Masti

masti[edit]

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Personal info: I am keeping my work in cross wiki vandalism mainly concentrating on Long Term Abusers and crosswiki spambots. I am easily available on stewards IRC so can react quickly on the incoming requests. I think I will be able to keep with at least same level of activity in the coming year.

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Informacje osobiste: Cały czas zajmuję się zwalczaniem miedzyprojektowych wandalizmów ze szczególnym uwzględnieniem długoletnich wandali i spamerów. Jestem łatwo dostepny na stewardzkim kanale IRC, tak by móc szybko reagować na nadchodzące zgłoszenia. Wydaje mi się, że w nadchodzącym roku będę w stanie utrzymać podobny poziom aktywności.

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Comments about masti[edit]

Keep --Stïnger （会話） 14:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Keep --Vituzzu (talk) 14:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Mehman 15:28, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Smat (talk) 15:48, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Only had good experiences, and always quick on IRC. EPIC (talk) 15:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I am aware of the concerns. They are of course valid, and I understand them. However, I am happy that Masti has responded, and I am satisfied enough with his response. Considering this, and that Masti is overall an active steward, I don't think it's worth losing him over this if he has learned from his mistakes. Thus, my keep vote remains. EPIC (talk) 13:23, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep--Vladimir Solovjev (talk) 15:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --TenWhile6 (talk | SWMT) 16:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good acting steward. JrandWP (talk) 16:13, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep always quick to answer my IRC requests :P --Ferien (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will reconsider my keep vote if Masti doesn't address these concerns soon, although I'd rather voters were more consistent with stewards with communication issues. (Note Tks4Fish was confirmed in 2023 and Tegel looks to be reconfirmed in 2024...) --Ferien (talk) 20:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The distinction I see between masti and Tegel is that for Tegel it seems to be a one-off incident from last confirmation period (no double jeopardy!) and Tegel has responded to more recent talk messages whereas Masti hasn't responded to any since July. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 03:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --V0lkanic (talk) 16:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Titore (talk) 17:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - XXBlackburnXx (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Prodraxis _(talk) 17:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove until I see a response. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 17:51, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I want to see a response to 1234qwer1234qwer4's comments - the last 8 months of talk page queries have been left unanswered which can be a serious problem. Leaderboard (talk) 18:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- see my answer Special:Diff/26171728 masti <talk> 17:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Masti:, I appreciate your response, but I don't get the gist of your answer. @1234qwer1234qwer4: basically asked "did you made a mistake", a few other users weighed in with their opinion, and you're basically asking "why does it matter", months after the query was raised? Maybe I'm missing something... Note that it's OK to make mistakes, but I'm not sure the response was appropriate. Leaderboard (talk) 18:00, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Locks are for protecting the projects. So even if it was more than minimum necessary it did serve a purpose. And a question looks like a rhetoric one or a comment. masti <talk> 18:07, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So if "a question looks like a comment", you think you don't need to reply to it? ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

but right. I should pay more attention to answering to clarify things which I maybe misandertood. masti <talk> 18:15, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
FTR, I replied back, though I can't say I'm convinced to change my vote yet. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove Sorry, but not responding to talk page queries is a dealbreaker IMO. * Pppery * _{it has begun} 19:44, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove Leaving users on red is a massive red flag. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 20:18, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove needs to be more responsive. Ingenuity (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral A productive Steward, but the lack of responses is a bit concerning. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 23:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --_USSR-Slav (СССР-Слав) (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral leaning remove. Queen of Hearts (talk) 05:20, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove Being interactive is one of the fundamental things required of stewards. --Tmv (talk) 07:30, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove--Fenikals (talk) 07:59, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --Lookruk 💬 (Talk) 12:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --cyrfaw (talk) 13:21, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, good work and helpful with quick actions on IRC but lack of responces for months is indeed concerning. -- CptViraj (talk) 15:26, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – tsca (talk) 16:27, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Juandev (talk) 17:11, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Maksim L. (talk) 18:22, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove. Not responding. Per above. --UA0Volodymyr (talk) 06:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep —Vale93b (talk) 07:27, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove --valcio ••• 09:08, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A generally helpful Steward, and even as my activity has declined on Wikimedia in general, I can only recollect good experiences when I think of Masti. That said, 1234qwer's comment above gave me some pause - the incident mentioned clearly does not look good, especially as communication and accountability are of paramount importance for a Steward. On the other hand, a look through Masti's talk page and contributions on plwiki suggests to me that they have generally been responding to talk page comments there, even if at times in the rather nonstandard way of going over to the talk page of the original poster (example). As problematic as the non-answering of 1234qwer's concerns here (for months, too) is, I find it difficult to establish that this is a general problem with Masti, moreso due to my interactions with them being generally positive. I hope that a recurrence shall not be seen. Keep. Java Hurricane 11:12, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Lvova (talk) 11:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So far Neutral but communication skills I see here User talk:Masti definitely need improvement. Not responding to queries from various LTAs that they made while evading another block is one thing but not responding to fellow stewards? Not responding to legitimate questions? That is not ok to do. Meiræ 15:22, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove with regret. Communication is key, and it should not take opposition in a reconfirmation to get a response to basic accountability questions. Nor should people need to go to plwiki to get a response. HouseBlaster (talk) 15:56, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove — IRC = completely irrelevant, and accountability is fundamental. ——SerialNumber54129 18:25, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I believe Masti's explanation for not responding. Just removing based on one incident of long nonresponse while keeping someone who had globally locked a user for a month doesn't seem right to me. None of this means you'll have to go to plwiki. Aaron Liu (talk) 18:53, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Ameisenigel (talk) 20:18, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This seems like an isolated incident to me. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 01:00, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether it's a good place to post my opinion or if I even have formal rights to do it, but nah... it might just be reversed or <del>'ed. A few days ago he has made a really nasty provocation with admin votimg procedure by putting the candidate with provocative note. More details are on his Polish discussion page: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Masti and here: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Przyznawanie_uprawnie%C5%84/Hoa_binh/3 (if you can read Polish or if you wish to use automated translator) Karol739 (talk) 15:03, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

providing the opportunity to a user that has all necessary knowledge to be able to do things he is complaining that admins do not do is not nasty. This was a fully valid adminship voting. He did not wanted to [participated. It is his choice. PS: here we discuss my work as Steward not polish wiki user. masti <talk> 17:25, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, anyone can comment here because the stewards make the final decision anyway. Snowmanonahoe (talk) 17:48, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep PawełMM (talk) 17:17, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Isolated incident Seawolf35 (talk) 20:26, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Ptjackyll (talk) 21:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --Dostojewskij (talk) 22:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Definitely does good steward work, but should be more responsive to queries. ChrisWx 🌀 (talk - contribs) 04:35, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Thibaut (talk) 08:17, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Kggucwa (talk) 09:28, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove. Being unresponsive is a problem, and not appearing to get why it's a problem is even more of a problem. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ >^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ< 10:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Szoltys (talk) 12:14, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove --Kadı Message 13:52, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep NiktWażny (talk) 16:56, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Duży Bartek (talk) 20:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Mtarch11 (talk) 21:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Active and helpful on IRC, but should be more responsive onwiki too.--*Fehufangą ♮ ✉ Talk page ♮ 23:10, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral --Denis Barthel (talk) 12:32, 11 February 2024 (UTC) good work/bad responsivity[reply]
Keep --Gereon K. (talk) 12:43, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good work at locking LTA accounts. ~Cybularny ^Speak? 14:44, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Given that this person has made a reasonable effort to resolve the concern made by 1234qwer1234qwer and the lack of a precedent (as far as I'm aware), I think we can make do with an admonishment in this case. Leaderboard (talk) 17:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove It is important that stewards are responsive to concerns. Z1720 (talk) 17:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep though communication breakdown that everyone talks about is not ideal, I see it as a standalone incident. Masti helps in many areas and it would not be foe anyones advantage to lose such a steward.--reNVoy (user talk) 17:34, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Revsson (talk) 20:27, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Radagast13 (talk) 21:18, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove not responding for ~6 months is not appropiate in my view, and given the section immedately below the one referenced above this doesn't actually seem as isolated of a problem as suggested above. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:29, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Joee (talk) 08:32, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Archiwald (talk) 09:43, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep, many remove/neutral votes... --Wolverène (talk) 08:28, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep odder (talk) 09:32, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep strong expertise with LTAs. The communication skills of the steward could use some tweaking, but I don't think that they alone deserve to take away the tools. I fully recommend keeping Masti as steward, movement greatly benefits from his work. Nadzik (talk) 10:17, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Teukros (talk) 21:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove --Jan Myšák (talk) 08:32, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Boston9 (talk) 11:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove Lepricavark (talk) 15:39, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Harlock81 (talk) 18:53, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Nadzik though on the weak side. Jianhui67^{talk★contribs} 14:21, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep —MdsShakil (talk) 13:24, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral Taivo (talk) 15:04, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep AramilFeraxa (Write to me!) 11:31, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove due to being nonresponsive --Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 18:56, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove per above, concerns with communication -Fastily 22:09, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I am assuming that the incident pointed above is not recurrent and, hopefully, Masti will be responsive to the ones that addresses relevant questions.—Teles «Talk ˱_{C L @ S}˲» 14:33, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep –FlyingAce^✈hello 21:03, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Jamnik z Tarnowa (talk) 16:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Spielvogel (talk) 21:28, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep--Wertuose (talk) 07:07, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, supporter of administration on szl.wiki, helpful many times Krol111 (talk) 15:23, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think Masti is doing a good job. I'm sure they won't have a similar problem again. It also sometimes happens to me that I don't see or am unable to reply to messages, but when it comes to my actions it's important to remember to do so, but being an isolated case it's not problematic imho! --Superpes15 (talk) 09:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 16:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove jdx ^Re: 10:22, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- Wagino 20100516 (talk) 10:27, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Wim b 12:35, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Remove --DannyS712 (talk) 23:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral · ^מקףHyphen_෴ · 01:13, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Kizule (talk) 04:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Darkhan 10:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. While I don't want to feel people voting remove unheard, I personally see only a small issue that does not scale all the way to a need for removal. Most of the messages Masti has not replied are just mass-notification, I don't really see what one was supposed to reply to those. He did miss a couple of inquiries where his answer was indeed needed, but to be honest that is a normal although unfortunate thing when something like this happens occasionally, and unless we see a long term pattern and lack of willingness to amend it, I do not see a reason for rights removal. --Base (talk) 12:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Melos (talk) 13:20, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, may times of help on IRC. Thanks. --M/ (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Zala (talk) 13:31, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep --Civvì (talk) 13:33, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]