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An IP from the University of Geneva under which I'm connected has been blocked globaly. I'm a serious contributor, sysop on WP fr: and would like to be exempt for global IP block. <small>The problematic IP adress is: 129.194.3.7, the proxy of the host edgewall2.unige.ch is 129.194.8.73.</small> Thanks, --[[User:Totodu74|Totodu74]] 12:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:50, 24 January 2012
This is not a vote and any active Wikimedia editor may participate in the discussion, though only stewards may use {{yes}} or {{no}} templates.
Global rollback requests generally require no less than 5 days of discussion, while global sysop discussions last no less than 2 weeks.
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Requests for global rollback permissions
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Global rollback for TBloemink
- Global user: TBloemink (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I'd like to apply for global rollback rights, because I think global rollback would help me out fighting crosswiki vandalism (like spam or evw). I idle in most IRC channels that report crosswiki stuff (#cvn-sw, ##cvn-attacks, ##cvn-blocks and #wikimedia-stewards). While I don't have that many cross-wiki reverts, global rollback would certainly help with live spam attacks. Of course I double check an edit, and I only revert when it's clear vandalism.
I thank you for your consideration and your vote. Best regards, TBloemink talk 13:08, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support! Experienced and trusted user. PeterSymonds (talk) 13:20, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. User has a strong track record of good reverts, and more than enough experience with reverts on 70+ projects. Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:30, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support — D.DEU. 14:44, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sure ! He is now experienced enough and does good work fighting against vandalism on IRC.
Just let me put a link to the previous request for more transparency. -- Quentinv57 (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2012 (UTC) - Support - The Helpful One 19:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Although you still don't have a lot cross-wiki edits (besides the projects were you already have rollback), I trust you and I think you'd be a help for us. Trijnstel 19:45, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Of course, I thought he already is a global sysop :P - Hoo man (talk) 21:25, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support of course. πr2 (t • c) 21:40, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support - You'd better already be a gs. -Barras 21:53, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support we have a candidate for 2013 SEs. --Vituzzu 22:24, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support, although agreeing with Trijnstel. Savhñ 22:59, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Per Trijnstel.” Teles (T @ L C S) 23:07, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. mickit 23:11, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- nod nod nod around and clueful, useful attributes billinghurst sDrewth 23:15, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Why not? -FASTILY (TALK) 07:01, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Per Trijnstel Apoo 10:56, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support MoiraMoira 11:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- support —DerHexer (Talk) 11:17, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Knows what he's doing. Orashmatash 11:27, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Yes. –BruTe talk 14:41, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support still supporting ... ;-) a×pdeHello! 15:45, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support He's seem okay. -- Wagino 20100516 17:06, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. --Lucas Nunes 17:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support — [ Tanvir | Talk ] 13:59, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support: active, experienced and reliable. Mathonius 19:06, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Good idea. -- Tegel (Talk) 19:29, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support - Good work Addihockey10 20:45, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Snowolf How can I help? 20:50, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Trustworthy and active user. Ruy Pugliesi◥ 01:18, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. --Mercy 08:05, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support - Why should we? --Katarighe (Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 16:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support trusted and helpful user.--Hosiryuhosi 16:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support, always thought you're already gr. Bencmq 04:11, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Global rollback for Salebot
- Global user: Salebot (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Salebot is an anti-vandalism bot running on frwiki and ptwiki. Since there is no way to grant it rollback rights only on the wikis where it operates, I'd like to grant it global rights. That way, instead of performing manual undos (downloading clean versions of pages and saving them over the vandalized contents), it can use the rollback API, which is a lot more efficient. --Salebot 21:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm the bot owner, by the way. --Gribeco 21:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I understand why you would like to have global rollback, but it's only meant for reverting vandalism, see the Global rollback policy. Trijnstel 21:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, this is an anti-vandalism robot, which has been in operation for over 4 years on frwiki. --Gribeco 21:39, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - too many false positives in my opinion, [1], [2], [3] in addition to Trijnstel's comment. Addihockey10 21:34, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Totally supporting this request for rollback permission. Salebot has been working for years on frwiki and ptwiki, giving him this flag would be much easier than asking each community to vote for a local rollbacker status... Also, I would like to add that it is a simple technical request. As to false positives, global rollback or not, Salebot will keep reverting modifications detected as vandalisms. I see this argument as irrelevant here. Elfix 21:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose, GR is not meant for this, the bot is not active cross-wiki. Savhñ 21:38, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose. Isn't requesting rollback on 700 wikis so you can use it on two serious overkill? Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:24, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, seems it would be more than two. Could you give us more information, like which wikis/languages it will be used on? Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is active on two wikis today. Since there is no way to grant local rollback status, I believe that my alternatives are either to ask for local sysop status, or to ask the local communities to establish a local rollback status and have it granted by the stewards, before I can ask for it to be granted to the bot. If there are other alternatives, I'd love to hear about them. --Gribeco 23:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I guess my other question would be why the bot needs rollback at all if it is functioning without it. I don't think the bot gets bored of using the undo API rather than the rollback... but I'm not an expert on complex bots, so I might be missing something here. While this is out of the gr scope, I'd be inclined to support this if there was a really good reason why the bot needs the rollback button. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- It's for efficiency reasons: with undo, the bot has to download an entire copy of the clean version, and then upload it back as a new edit. This is cumbersome and time-consuming for large pages. This can lead to a snowball effect when there is heavy activity, which has forced me to stop running the bot on the toolserver, because processes were being killed once total resource usage exceeded toolserver limits. --Gribeco 04:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- That makes sense, I guess. I'd still like to explore the possibility of a local rollback flag before assigning it the global one, though I guess if that is too much work I'd support this. Ajraddatz (Talk) 04:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- It's for efficiency reasons: with undo, the bot has to download an entire copy of the clean version, and then upload it back as a new edit. This is cumbersome and time-consuming for large pages. This can lead to a snowball effect when there is heavy activity, which has forced me to stop running the bot on the toolserver, because processes were being killed once total resource usage exceeded toolserver limits. --Gribeco 04:07, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I guess my other question would be why the bot needs rollback at all if it is functioning without it. I don't think the bot gets bored of using the undo API rather than the rollback... but I'm not an expert on complex bots, so I might be missing something here. While this is out of the gr scope, I'd be inclined to support this if there was a really good reason why the bot needs the rollback button. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:35, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is active on two wikis today. Since there is no way to grant local rollback status, I believe that my alternatives are either to ask for local sysop status, or to ask the local communities to establish a local rollback status and have it granted by the stewards, before I can ask for it to be granted to the bot. If there are other alternatives, I'd love to hear about them. --Gribeco 23:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, seems it would be more than two. Could you give us more information, like which wikis/languages it will be used on? Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support Giving the global rollback status to the bot won't change anything about what it is already doing now, it will just make it easier and faster. This bot is the most efficient anti-vandalism user that we have on wiki.fr, I don't see any reason not to grant it the status. Udufruduhu 22:41, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Question: Has this been discussed at fr. and pt.? What do they say? Seb az86556 01:49, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I asked for local rollback rights on frwiki first, and was told by the bureaucrats that they did not have the ability to grant those specifically. --Gribeco 04:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Gribeco, are you sure it is not possible to assign it locally? Did fr.wiki sysops said why? I don't see any problem on doing it on pt.wiki after community approval. If there is any problem on assigning it locally, might be not a good idea to assign it globally.” Teles (T @ L C S) 16:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- frwiki has no local rollback group. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Ouch. Well, then the technical impediment is only on fr.wiki.” Teles (T @ L C S) 17:08, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- So fr.wiki doesn't want rollback for anyone. Therefore, oppose. Seb az86556 21:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- frwiki does have rollback, but there is no group for only rollbacking. Also, some people on frwiki might find it excessive to give admin bit to a bot that only needs to rollback revisions. Note that, there is no specific rule about rollbacking here. Elfix 21:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- frwiki has no local rollback group. Ajraddatz (Talk) 16:55, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Gribeco, are you sure it is not possible to assign it locally? Did fr.wiki sysops said why? I don't see any problem on doing it on pt.wiki after community approval. If there is any problem on assigning it locally, might be not a good idea to assign it globally.” Teles (T @ L C S) 16:54, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I asked for local rollback rights on frwiki first, and was told by the bureaucrats that they did not have the ability to grant those specifically. --Gribeco 04:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose on principle, not the specifics of the bot. Having a bot with rollback means that the rollbacks are hidden, and to me that is undesirable to decide that at meta. If it is about local actions predominantly at a couple wikis, that is clearly local decision making and rollback can be granted by those communities if they see it as desirable. billinghurst sDrewth 02:03, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- The bot has obviously been approved for use where it is being used, so why does it matter if the bot is using undo or rollback? The actual functioning of the bot isn't going to be changed - in fact, the lack of a difference is why I'm opposing this request right now. Whether rollbacks are hidden or undos are makes no difference since the exact same thing is happening, just in a different way. Ajraddatz (Talk) 02:10, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Salebot does not use the bot flag for undos, only for logging and notifying users. I would keep the bot flag off for rollbacks, since that gives patrollers the opportunity to double-check the bot edits. --Gribeco 04:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Requesting GR for only one wiki is out of the GR scope. Savhñ 21:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Comment I would like to see clarity on the proposal. Acting as a bot, but not with a bot flag, but instead a global rollback, Local community where bot applies has rollback, but not separately allocatable; another community does have rollback so it can be applied, no clarity on where else it is going to be or may be used, nor a comment on whether approval would be sought in other communities. No wonder I am confused, some clarity would help this poor soul. billinghurst sDrewth 05:04, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
- Requesting GR for only one wiki is out of the GR scope. Savhñ 21:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Salebot does not use the bot flag for undos, only for logging and notifying users. I would keep the bot flag off for rollbacks, since that gives patrollers the opportunity to double-check the bot edits. --Gribeco 04:01, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support - Agreed, giving him the global rollback status won't change anything but I wish this bot is a global anti-vandal bot to prevent the vandals and the bot has made over 1 million cross-wiki edits in total (mostly in fr and pt wiki) but actually I don't see any reason not to grant it the status but I wish this bot can do well. --Katarighe (Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 16:24, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose - for where the bot runs at this moment. Global rollback permission is not meant to be an alternative for wikis without local rollback group, we surely don't want to see other uses start to applying for gr like this. I'm happy to support if bot is globally active (and without much false positives too). --Bencmq 04:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Requests for global sysop permissions
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Global sysop for Addihockey10
- Global user: Addihockey10 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello, my username here is Addihockey10. I've been active in SWMT for quite awhile now, with a lot of experience in combating cross-wiki vandalism and spam. Note that some of those are deleted as they were spam/nonsense pages :-). You can find me on IRC in #wikimedia-stewards or e-mail if you prefer. I do not have a local sysop flag, however I have a fair knowledge of the bit. I can understand and speak french at an intermediate level, as well as having English as a native language. I operate two bots, sulutil:Addihockey10 (automated) and sulutil:AddihockeyBot. The former being one to replace raster images with their vectorized counterparts, and the latter an inactive crosswiki link bot. Thank you for your consideration. --Addihockey10 20:26, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support - obviously TBloemink talk 20:28, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose Seb az86556 20:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Could you please explain why you're against a global sysop flag for Addihockey10? Thanks. Trijnstel 20:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- We've been over this in August, and noting much has changed since then. Seb az86556 22:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I totally forgot he requested this before. For transparancy: his previous request for global sysop rights. Trijnstel 22:56, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- We've been over this in August, and noting much has changed since then. Seb az86556 22:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Could you please explain why you're against a global sysop flag for Addihockey10? Thanks. Trijnstel 20:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Neutral I have to think about it as I think it's important someone has experience as a local sysop. Ajraddatz was an exception imo. Trijnstel 20:55, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Since my primary activity is global vandal-fighting and maintenance, I don't think I'd have enough dedication a single project to make any application for sysop tools worthwhile. Addihockey10 21:10, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- (Weak) oppose due to lack of recent activity, most of the recent edits are related to bot requests. I haven't seen him in #cvn-swconnect for some time either. Lack of local adminship isn't always a barrier, but I think it is in this case. Savhñ 21:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've been primarily focused on the crosswiki image maintenance from my semi-automated bot for the past few weeks. Addihockey10 21:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Could be, but there is nearly no recent cw activity, else from that, in your own crossactivity. Savhñ 21:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- After the global image maintenence backlog is cleared (clearing out local copies of commons files, re-linking superseded images) I plan on returning full-force to the SWMT team :-) Addihockey10 21:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Could be, but there is nearly no recent cw activity, else from that, in your own crossactivity. Savhñ 21:23, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've been primarily focused on the crosswiki image maintenance from my semi-automated bot for the past few weeks. Addihockey10 21:20, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose per Addihockey10's lack of recent crosswiki activity and his lacking defense that he does not "have enough dedication a [sic] single project," while he appears to not even have enough dedication to SWMT. Logan Talk Contributions 22:57, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Support. Why not? I always see him around and he has my trust. Having experience as a local sysop is not too relevant, IMHO. Ruy Pugliesi◥ 01:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Neutral Trusted, however, when giving people access to all the admin functions, and in non-native language, I would like to see a demonstrated ability or an exceptional case. Comment Please would you complete #babel on your user page. billinghurst sDrewth 02:51, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Neutral - I like the enthusiasum, but I would like a demostarted abillity. Please take your time to do more and more cross wiki-expereince before re-applying. In the meantime, I would actually support you as a global sysop. Regards --Katarighe (Talk · Contributions · E-mail) 16:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oppose Failed to voluntarily disclose his former request for this bit. Lack of transparency much? ←fetchcomms 23:12, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
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- Global user: Totodu74 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
An IP from the University of Geneva under which I'm connected has been blocked globaly. I'm a serious contributor, sysop on WP fr: and would like to be exempt for global IP block. The problematic IP adress is: 129.194.3.7, the proxy of the host edgewall2.unige.ch is 129.194.8.73. Thanks, --Totodu74 12:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
See also
- User groups — Information on user groups
- Global rights log — Log of global permissions changes
General requests for: help from a Meta sysop or bureaucrat · deletion (speedy deletions: local · multilingual) · URL blacklisting · new languages · interwiki map
Personal requests for: username changes · permissions (global) · bot status · adminship on Meta · CheckUser information (local) · local administrator help
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