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Problematic user behavior[edit]

Status:    In progress

cs.wikt is small project with few active users (less than 10). It has three sysops, but two are inactive and not answering for requests for intervention for long time (1, 2) and third has no time and doesnt feel like to read disputes between me and Dan Polansky. One of reason can be that few years ago the roles were reversed and I was exhibiting the same objectionable behavior as the one I am now protecting the project from - so maybe from the optics of this sysop there are two troublemakers and he is not willing to read about the heart of the dispute and what is wrong. Complication is also that the community is fragmented and there is mostly animosity between individual members, so it is hard to find somebody to help me. Also members just don't have enough time, as same as me. So it is reason why I need help from you and I am prepared to answer for your questions. Dan Polansky was not so active on cs.wikt before, as now he is (few weeks), because he has new infinite block on en.wikt. From this time he began "to improve" many things in very short time on cs.wikt which are all complete out of our prescribed article format. He repeatedly wrote that he would not respect the rules such mentioned WS:FH, cite rules, verification rules, etc. - he challenged almost every authority in order to assert his views - mostly by edit wars. When it came any revert for his "improvement", usualy he should continue following this diagram, but instead of that, he began usually the edit war. Only by persistent long-term persuasion and pressure did I force him to discuss the issues, so now it is no longer purely a reversal war, but a mix with discussion. But arguments are very often very subjective and although Dan Polansky very often refers to the status quo, he does not follow the status quo during the editing wars when it is not helpful for advancing his cause. Here you can see that the problem has been going on for a month and the problem is that i have too much another work and I am not able to constantly monitor and fix his deliberate mass bugs and "improvements". I didn't come here asking for some long block because cs.wikt is in desperate need of editors. But I would need some pep talk or a short warning block to stop the editing wars and sit down at the negotiating table. And if it is not possible to do like this, I can manage these problems by myself, but I would appreciate some kind of help that would force Dan Polansky to respect basic rules on cs.wikt, which to his disappointment are quite different than what he was used to on en.wikt. So even if no specific action comes from you, I will be very grateful for at least some advice. Thank you for your time and I am sorry for the length. --Palu (talk) 20:18, 26 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Every day I have to do hundreds of totaly useless edits only to protect konsensual format. It would be great if you can help me somehow. --Palu (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"fake namespace" at mhrwiki[edit]

Status:    In progress
Moved from GSR.

Please nuke w:mhr:Special:PrefixIndex/Викиувер: OOS/No useful content. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:02, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This appears to be an improvised namespace for a Wikinews subproject. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
19:48, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is there any policy or consensus on this matter? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 19:56, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
alswiki has a similar project. I suppose there was consensus given the number of pages, but not sure if that's sufficient to request the namespace to be actually created on Phabricator. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
20:02, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
According to w:mhr:Category:Викиувер, some of them were even created in Wikipedia namespace. I can't find any discussions that mention Викиувер; would you mind asking some local users (in Russian)? NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 20:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes check.svg Done. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
20:31, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Nearly three weeks have passed. Given that this page is only for non-controversial requests, those article can probably be left there for now. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 15:54, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I wonder whether this is sufficient to create a Phab task. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
20:32, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They should definitely be imported to Incubator, but, given that no comments were left at the discussion you started, it is likely that they will continue creating such articles. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 21:15, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Moving this from GSR to SRM for further consideration, since this is no longer a simple request. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
00:01, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. Pinging users who are active at mhrwiki recently: @Frhdkazan and VolnyiLev. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 00:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Comment Comment I think they can be moved to existing namespace for now. It can be something like 'Wikipedia/wikinews/PAGENAME'. From there, community can decided what to do with those. Right now, I don't think we need a new namespace, and it's not up to us to decide that anyway. The community should get a consensus for a new namespace to be created.--BRP ever 00:36, 4 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    I suppose the fact the namespace is de facto used is some kind of consensus. I don't think WP namespace is really appropriate for them though (only a few are currently located there, more likely on accident). ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    09:50, 6 July 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Looking back at this, we can do either of the two things. First, either we move the wikinews content to incubator if there is a test project there. Or just make a proposal to create a namespace and move with it. If the community later wants the content removed, they can do so.--BRP ever 01:59, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

kmwiktionary: collapsible boxes to work on mobile[edit]

Status:    In progress

Please add the following scripts in Mediawiki namespace: navframe.js, common.js, common.css, mobile.css. Please also change the namespace and its talk page to translated one: "Wiktionary" → "វិគីនានុក្រម". Thank you. — RalvahKaset (talk) 06:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RalvahKaset, for the latter one you have to follow Requesting wiki configuration changes, it is not changed with an on wiki edit. --Base (talk) 00:54, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see, thank you. So I'd like to retain the former request only. RalvahKaset (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Russian propaganda in Russian Wikibooks[edit]

Status:    In progress

Hi! There is a page Interesting social studies/Special military operation in Ukraine in Russian Wikibooks. It was nominated to deletion, because it is full of Russian propaganda, such as "The purpose of the operation is to liberate from the nationalists primarily the industrial regions of the East of Ukraine" ("Целью операции является освобождение от националистов прежде всего промышленных районов Востока Украины"), see AfD. Unfortunately, the administrator said "Due to the complexity and obvious conflictness and possible danger, I find it difficult to close it" ("в связи со сложностью и явной конфликтностью и возможной опасностью я затрудняюсь подвести итог") and recommended as a possibility to "Take the issue to the level of the Wikimedia Foundation and leave the problem to those who have enough authority to make such decisions, primarily the stewards" ("Вынести вопрос на уровень Фонда Викимедиа и предоставить решать проблему тем, у кого достаточно полномочий принимать такие решения, в первую очередь стюардов"). Could you take a look? --Wikisaurus (talk) 00:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I don't believe this requires, or would benefit from, steward action. The local discussion isn't exactly conclusive, and I understand it very likely can't be for safety reasons, but...this is fundamentally a local decision. Without local consensus, there is no basis for global action.
And, from my perspective, this isn't worth the trouble of seeking global action. As noted in the discussion, there is the good point that few to no people will read it this, and that it may (hopefully) be easier in the future to safely discuss its inclusion in the Russian Wikibooks. I understand that there are neutrality policies, but maybe some sort of compromise can be reached, perhaps to add a note designating it as the personal perspective of the author rather than a neutral textbook-style piece. Vermont (🐿️🏳️‍🌈) 02:51, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted articles[edit]

Hello everyone, I come here to get some help. Yesterday, I created a pair of interlingual articles of Wikidata Page Vesoul (Q203309) but I noticed that WikiBayer has kept deleted all of them with justification "No meaningful content". Theses articles were well made and I'm pretty sure there content were meaningful, at least more than most of articles : for exemple I created a page of Vesoul in Runa Simi (.qu) and he actually deleted it while this page had meaningful content et references (cf a draft of this page in Runa Simi). Can anyone assure me that this page is more useless than other page in the same language dealing of other French city like Montpellier or Saint-Étienne ? In my opinion, this person is clearly abusing his power as an administrator. Could anynone try to stop him from doing anyting he want ?— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ghkkj (talk) 10:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WikiBayer: MSGJ (talk) 11:25, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The deleted pages are machine-translated spam (also linguistically incorrect) and not helpful for the respective projects. Deleting such pages is the usual procedure. Also, I am not the only one who deleted the user's spam. For example hsbwiki. The user has already been asked to refrain from doing so, but continues. The user has been active with his account and IP for a long time. See 𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 15:49, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Ghkkj, I find it interesting that you completely skipped the first part of the deletion reason, which isn't just "No meaningful content", but actually "Machine translation / No meaningful content". It's very unlikely that you speak every single of these languages, so I suggest you limit your article editing on projects with a familiar language and cease creating pages cross-wiki. Translations by Google Translate or similar machine translation tools can at times be very inaccurate. If you can mass-create articles, you can also expect them to be mass-deleted at some point. ~StyyxTalk? 16:15, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't see the point of accusing me of being a machine translation. Or maybe should we absolutely speak the language to create an article ? It's funny the fact that you are accusing me to not speak the language of those articles but deleting them for linguisticly incorrect. So I guess you can speak and understand the languages of all of those articles to judging it's incorrect right ? Also, I guess you check the native language of any users and compare if their creation is actually is the same language right ? Many pages had been massively created useless articles by the same people ; Wikidata is full of it (exemple : French cities like Roubaix, Montsoreau etc) but you keep paying attention on what I do). Moreover, it's useless to say that you are not the only one who had deleted my articles (which actually means unintentionnaly you are not sure of what you have done), but many people on differents wikis has accepted my articles or even improve them (which is the main interest of a collaborative encyclopedia) : they modify my articles, add some new content, or just add a message to let people knows the article need some modifications, however no one but you two has blindly deleted my articles. Is that possible for you to clearly answer to that or no ? Why 50 people did like this to my articles but not you ? Unless all of them are stupid, you two are the only one who understand everything ?
I also find it interesting that you don't answer to none of my questions : why are you keep deleting my articles and leaving others useless articles (Montpellier, Saint-Étienne...)
I keep saying that you are clearly abusing your power - deleting articles without understanding the language of them must not be allowed. Ghkkj (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:00, 23 May 2023 (UTC).Reply[reply]
Machine translating is disruptive, so it is a pretty valid thing to "accuse" you of. Many wiki's have it as a reason for speedy deletion and it is not an abuse of power to delete the mess created by them. It is common sense to not publish things that you are not sure of its accuracy, so it is useful advice to suggest someone to not create articles in a project where they don't speak the language; and I hope you actually follow that advice.
WikiBayer is a local admin at barwikipedia (one of the deleted articles) and speaks the language, so they are qualified to know whether it was linguistically correct or not. Given that it wasn't, it is normal that this applies to your other creations as well. There are additional clues in formatting and mark up that give away the origin of the translation anyway.
It's your articles that have been deleted because you were the one creating it at the home wiki of a global sysop, so it isn't a miracle they found you and subsequently looked at your global contributions to see if it was an issue on other projects as well. ~StyyxTalk? 21:33, 23 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1 - First sentence, first mistake : Machine translating is disruptive => No, actually. Which is disruptive is to create wrong, unsourced and unstructured articles. You are pretending that creating any articles in differents languages, even perfect articles with text, photos, references etc is disruptive ; you actually don't understand what is the interest of this encyclopedia. <= I hope you will clearly respond to that
2 - it is useful advice to suggest someone to not create articles in a project where they don't speak the language; and I hope you actually follow that advice. Absolutely right, but it's also useful to not delete articles that you don't understand languages, unless you ask for each articles to native speakers the accuracy of all of those articles right ? to make sure you are not doing mistake by deleting articles which are actually well made right ?
3 - Very very glad to read Wikibayer is also able to speak Quechua, Kernowek and dozens others international languages (some articles he deleted where in these languages). He must be very smart to speak natively all of these languages.
4 - Given that it wasn't, it is normal that this applies to your other creations as well. => is that a joke ? Mistakes made on one article means automaticly mistakes on every articles made ? Without even reading them ? And you have the arrogance to say it's normal ? I hope you do the same for everyone else right ? One mistake made by a contributor => all of his contributions deleted ? Ghkkj (talk) 00:43, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You say that it's disruptive to create wrong articles, which machine translation mostly is. I highly doubt that those articles were accurate even though you might think they are correct. Ever heard of the Scots Wikipedia saga? Most of the wikis where you created the article don't have an active community. Eventual mistakes would likely take years before being spotted by a person knowledgable of the language. It is a huge risk to mass create articles and introduce errors with them, which is no way near the interests of Wikipedia nor the Wikimedia Foundation. ~StyyxTalk? 07:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Remove old script on ptwikisource[edit]

Status:    In progress
  • Page: s:pt:MediaWiki:Common.js
  • Script: "Upload no Commons" - Lines 16-32
  • Reason: It's a little old script that is no longer needed. It includes a link in the toolbar for uploading files to Commons, although there is already another link right after that for uploading files. In addition, as it does not use the skin classes, its appearance is different from the other links, giving the appearance of a bug.

Thanks! ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 00:12, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Yes check.svg Done 𝐖𝐢𝐤𝐢𝐁𝐚𝐲𝐞𝐫 👤💬 10:13, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

AFD, page has over 5,000 revisions[edit]

Status:    In progress

Please delete en:List of American Thomas & Friends video releases as a result of en:Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of American Thomas & Friends video releases. Thanks! plicit 11:50, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Common.css change on si.Wikibooks[edit]

Status:    On hold

We are using most of the layouts similar to the English Wikibooks. Therefore we need to update the "MediaWiki:Common.css" for some changes to take effect. Please help me to move the contents from b:si:පරිශීලක:Lee/20230609/common.css to b:si:මාධ්‍යවිකි:Common.css. --Lee (talk) 09:18, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Lee the first 12 lines of that are importing empty pages (why?). Additionally, subpages in the mediawiki namespace are designated for translations by default so there may be unexpected behavior with that naming schemed. You may want to use direct titles instead (e.g. not MediaWiki:Common.css/Autocount.css but MediaWiki:Autocount.css or MediaWiki:Common.css-Autocount.css]]. — xaosflux Talk 14:38, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have no idea about the CSS code. I copied if off the English project directly. A few tests showed that some of the things work as expected. So I guessed that's how it goes. Now I see, that the English project also have some other CSS files that are included here. Please hold the task while I check on these included CSS files. -- Lee (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Lee you should be able to rigorously test everything for users by loading it to your own files; as far as for your readers, unless someone from your project understands what all of this configuration is going to do keeping the mediawiki default may be more supportable. — xaosflux Talk 15:31, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Time2wait.svg On hold for now. — xaosflux Talk 15:29, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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