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Listas de seguimiento de usuarios[edit]

Permitirle a los editores seguir a este usuario agregando una pestaña o enlace en la página (de discusión) del usuario, de sus contribuciones, historial, Special:Block y otros lugares apropiados y creando una página especial con una lista de seguimiento de usuarios que muestra las colaboraciones más recientes de los usuarios en la lista.

  • Como administrador, deseo verificar los editores potencialmente problemáticos en algún momento en el futuro.
  • Como usuario experimentado, quiero seguir cada paso de un novato al que estoy entrenando para arreglar sus ediciones, asistirlo en las discusiones y proporcionarle guía en general sin tener que seguir todas las páginas que puede editar, de forma que todo mi tiempo se invierte en ayudarle.
  • Como un wikientrenador con docenas de personas a las que debo seguir, quiero tener una página donde pueda ver un resumen de toda su actividad, controlada por una lista «central» de nombres de usuarios que pueda editar en un solo lugar. De esa forma puedo actuar en ediciones, páginas o usuarios específicos o solamente saber lo que está pasando en general.

Se puede limitar solamente a los administradoress si es necesario para mitigar las preocupaciones relacionadas con el acoso. Actualmente uso algo que cree yo mismo pero esto realmente necesita ser parte de MediaWiki. MER-C (talk) 12:51, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support as proposer. MER-C (talk) 09:48, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support Looking through this page, I wonder if the watchlist needs a total rewrite from scratch... This, that and the other (talk) 13:30, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support. --Stryn (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support Matiia (talk) 20:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support Grind24 (talk) 20:31, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support OK. xaosflux Talk 00:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support there's a sort of work-around by watching the user talk p. and hoping problems show up there, but this is much more direct. DGG (talk) 02:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support. I think this is a desirable thing, even if it's decided to restrict it to Admins or special usergroups. IJBall (talk) 03:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support, Linedwell (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support tufor (talk) 14:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support --Arnd (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support JackPotte (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support SupportSadads (talk) 16:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support Goombiis (talk) 16:36, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support --Dodi123 (talk) 17:14, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support --Tdslk (talk) 19:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Support Support -- Akela (talk) 21:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Should be consistently integrated into the regular watchlist.
  24. Support Support --Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support also for non-admins. It can be useful to track infrequent vandals too. Stalking, if that's a concern, is already possible with the regular 'user contributions' too. Gap9551 (talk) 22:17, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support Tar Lócesilion (queta) 00:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support Very useful idea. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:28, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  30. Support Support Sidevar (talk) 09:57, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Support Graham87 (talk) 12:25, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support Support Would be very useful in vandal fighting instead of periodically going back to problematic editors' contributions pages to make sure they have stopped their behavior.  DiscantX 12:58, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support Casliber (talk) 13:33, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  34. Support SupportNickK (talk) 13:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  35. Support Support Yes. Regards, Kertraon (talk) 13:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
    Support Support but only for admins and those with a user right created for this purpose. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 13:59, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  36. Support Support H.Rabiega (talk) 21:13, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  37. Support Support YBG (talk) 05:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  38. Support Support - very useful in combating vandalism. --Carrotkit (talk) 05:50, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  39. Support Support -24Talk 05:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  40. Support Support If stalkers are or become enough of an issue, then make it a requestable user right requiring some sort of minimum account age and edit count, with simple admin approval. Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 09:35, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  41. Support Support --AS (talk) 09:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  42. Support Support --Hektor Absurdus (talk) 10:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  43. Support Support Rzuwig 11:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  44. Support Support Extremely useful in combating vandalism. - Earth Saver(talk)Peace, strive, save the Earth! at 13:06, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  45. Support Support--James970028 (talk) 13:12, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  46. Support Support--Bowleerin (talk) 13:22, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  47. Support Support I can think of a few cases I'm involved in where this would be most useful. --SuperJew (talk) 14:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  48. Support Support - Sarahj2107 (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  49. Support Support I have been wanting this for years! Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:57, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  50. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  51. Support Support GY Fan 11:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  52. Support Support - I first heard this idea several years ago, and I still think it's a great one. Mark MacD (talk) 13:02, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  53. Support Support --The Polish (talk) 17:38, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  54. Support Support Bináris tell me 18:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  55. Support Support Avgr8 (talk) 20:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  56. Oppose Oppose I think this could be a useful tool for admins or maybe a specific user group, but even if restricted there's a huge potential for abuse and/or erosion of AGF (as well as BITE, fresh start, and other related principles). Also, if it's treated like the regular watchlist, it presents transparency issues, and if made public, it becomes bitey or at least uncomfortable (nobody wants to know they're being actively surveiled). In short, this raises enough questions and concerns regarding community warm and fuzzies and the potential for abuse is high enough that I don't think WMF should be involved with this, if it's attempted at all — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  57. Support Support I don't see the "transparency issues" referred to in the above !vote; anybody who's maliciously stalking another editor can already keep a browser tab open on that user's contributions and press F5 every few minutes. This would be useful in fighting vandals. DexDor (talk) 19:51, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  58. Support Support very beneficial for patrollers. Noyster (talk) 22:49, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  59. Support Support --Ziko (talk) 14:11, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  60. Comment Comment Clearly this would be more efficient than "manual" approaches, but that's often the case with covert surveillance techniques and doesn't make them any more popular with the public. I'd worry that this capability could be misused in unpredictable ways. I'd prefer to see it restricted to situations where the account-being-watchlisted has received one of the more severe user warnings, with a period of supervision linked to the level of warning. That would at least indicate that the account's actions might be monitored for a while. On that basis the right would be suitable for experienced editors who have a track record of issuing relevant warnings and escalating to AIV appropriately. It's nothing to do with adminship per se. - Pointillist (talk) 14:44, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  61. Conditional support. Support if limited only to admins, and if the editor who was put into the watchlist receives automatic notification about this. Without it, oppose for transparency reasons. Beagel (talk) 14:17, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  62. Support Support -- We've needed this for years. Antandrus (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  63. Oppose Oppose this pretty strongly. If not restricted to admins, encourages clique-behavior, meatpuppetry, and cabals broadly construed. Not good! If restricted only to admins, invites the perception of abuse-of-power: when the list of followers/followees is hidden from view, looks like corruption ("secret enemies list"), but when the list of followers/followees is transparently visible to all, looks like bullying ("I'm watching you punk so go ahead and make my day"). It doesn't matter if 100% of admins use the tool properly, and nobody every pulls a Richard Nixon or a Dirty Harry move -- it still would LOOK LIKE corruption and/or bullying. Wikipedia is not facebook, see en:WP:NOTFACEBOOK, and it is also not en:twitter. We don't need people with 'followers' that stalk their edit-history, either to applaud their every move, or to revert their every effort. It is already easy (too easy!) to track and en:WP:HOUND other people. This proposal is a step in the wrong direction. I understand it was proposed in good faith, and I see the utility for collaborative teamwork among good-faith wikipedians, and for wiki-cops trying to serve-n-protect the 'pedia, but no matter how it is implemented, this proposal won't turn out well: the only winning move is not to play. 75.108.94.227 17:13, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  64. Support Support Needed for a long time. aegis maelstrom δ 11:44, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  65. Support Support--Davidpar (talk) 14:48, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Listas de seguimiento consolidadas[edit]

Ahora que la unificación de las cuentas de usuario está completa, no hay obstáculos obvios para desarrollar listas de seguimiento consolidadas. Esta es una solicitud muy vieja (phab:T5525 desde septiembre de 2005) y se ha mencionado como una de las razones por las cuales los usuarios, digamos en Wikipedia, son reacios a participar en otros proyectos como Meta, Commons, etc. Hay esfuerzos para desarrollar esto como una herramienta externa usando OAuth (phab:T92955), pero en realidad debería ser parte de MediaWiki, enlazando esta función con la página existente Especial:Seguimiento de alguna manera. This, that and the other (talk) 10:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support Jenks24 (talk) 10:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support --Gnom (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support This, that and the other (talk) 13:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support Mr. Granger (talk) 17:42, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support Patrick87 (talk) 18:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support SupportBilorv (talk) 19:33, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support Matiia (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 20:20, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support Grind24 (talk) 20:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support We have enough people at en:wp who refuse to use Commons for fear that their images will be deleted "without warning". This would presumably help alleviate that problem to an extent. Nyttend (talk) 21:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support Voll (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support ONUnicorn (talk)
  14. Support Support--Kippelboy (talk) 05:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support--Gbeckmann (talk) 09:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support-- Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support Linedwell (talk) 12:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support Waiting for this for years --mfb (talk) 12:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support tufor (talk) 14:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support Wittylama (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Support Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:19, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Support--KRLS (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  24. Support Support - Master of Contributions (talk) 15:23, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support--JohanahoJ (talk) 15:52, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support JackPotte (talk) 16:11, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support SupportSadads (talk)
  30. Support Support Goombiis (talk) 16:37, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Support --Dodi123 (talk) 17:15, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support Support --Isacdaavid (talk) 17:57, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support Apokrif (talk) 20:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  34. Support Support --Hkoala (talk) 20:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  35. Support Support --Akela (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  36. Support Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Also the additional features from the Labs tool (eg. inline display of diff's) plus the ability to dismiss the notifications you already acknowledged (may be implemented with cookies to exempt the server from load) and a quick "send thanks" button.
  37. Support Support -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  38. Support Support --Nouill (talk) 21:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  39. Support Support --Tacsipacsi (talk) 22:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  40. Support Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  41. Support Support StevenJ81 (talk) 22:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  42. Support Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  43. Support Support Tar Lócesilion (queta) 00:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  44. Support Support --Oriciu (talk) 00:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  45. Support Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:29, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  46. Support Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  47. Support Support provided that users can easily opt out of it. Would like to see it able to be selective as well, so that users can group together some but not all projects. Risker (talk) 04:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  48. Support Support Syced (talk) 05:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  49. Support Support Stanko (talk) 08:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  50. Support Support Litlok (talk) 08:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  51. Support Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  52. Support Support --Barcelona (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  53. Support Support Graham87 (talk) 12:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  54. Support Support This would be useful even for editors who have only made a handful of edits outside of their main wiki.  DiscantX 13:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  55. Support Support Casliber (talk) 13:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  56. Support Support Yes. Regards, Kertraon (talk) 13:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  57. Support Support Stevie is the man! TalkWork 14:02, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  58. Support Support --β16 - (talk) 14:32, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  59. Support Support. That was the feature that justified forced SUL unification, and it has to be implemented — NickK (talk) 15:42, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  60. Support Support Mike Peel (talk) 23:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  61. Support Support YBG (talk) 05:50, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  62. Support Support --Carrotkit (talk) 05:51, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  63. Support Support -24Talk 05:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  64. Support Support Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 09:39, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  65. Support Support Rzuwig 11:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  66. Support Support - tucoxn\talk 14:11, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  67. Support SupportArkanosis 15:10, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  68. Support Support Orbwiki107 (talk) 17:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  69. Support Support Theredmonkey (talk) 19:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  70. Support Support Nikkimaria (talk) 01:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  71. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  72. Support Support --The Polish (talk) 17:37, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  73. Support Support Bináris tell me 18:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  74. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:28, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  75. Support Support Much more convenient.- Earth Saver(talk)Peace, strive, save the Earth! at 13:35, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  76. Support Support Much needed for anyone who ever cross-wikis. Alsee (talk) 18:12, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  77. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:52, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  78. Support Support Courcelles 08:38, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  79. Support Support (as for me, a kind-of-two-tabbed watchlist — with the local and the crosswatch version — would already be a huge benefit compared to the little-known, not-so-easy-to-find extra tool whose existense is a big step forward indeed) → «« Man77 »» [de] 18:17, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  80. Support Support Martin of Sheffield (talk) 23:11, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  81. Support Support --Edgars2007 (talk) 09:16, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  82. Support Support Beagel (talk) 14:21, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  83. Support Support -- yup. SUL owes us that. :) Ijon (talk) 10:07, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
  84. Support Support --Davidpar (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Diferencias desplegables de ediciones recientes[edit]

Esto se implementó en Crosswatch y debería incorporarse en Especial:Seguimiento. Es revolucionario y facilitará el proceso de edición. Si más editores pueden editar más en el mismo periodo de tiempo, entonces eso puede ayudar a mantener la cantidad de editores activos (5 o más ediciones por mes):

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC) // Plus the ability to dismiss the notifications you already acknowledged (may be implemented with cookies to exempt the server from load) and a quick "send thanks" button.
  2. Support Support Should make it easier to check the watchlist in one go.  DiscantX 13:04, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support There's already a gadget to see this in popups, but a dropdown that's built-in certainly would be nicer to have. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 14:07, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support That watchlist really is a lot nicer than the watchlists we currently have. Too bad this proposal is not getting votes - probably that is in part because the title and description are unclear and you have to look at the screenshot on another page to see what it's about. --V111P (talk) 22:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support I agree with V111P that it needs a better explanation (and I don't get the relationship to the number of active editors), but afaics from the screenshot it means that you can look at a diff without needing another mouseclick to return to the watchlist. That would make watchlist checking more efficient (especially for those editors with good size screens). It would also be neat if it could show not just the last edit to a page but previous edits (as one diff) if they are by the same editor. DexDor (talk) 22:59, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support Beagel (talk) 14:24, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Listas de seguimiento para secciones[edit]

Me gustaría darle seguimiento a secciones de una página en lugar de a los artículos completos, particularmente en páginas como Wikipedia:Consultas. De lo contrario no veo los cambios pertinentes a las secciones que me interesan debido a los cambios en otras secciones.

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support MisterSynergy (talk) 09:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Jenks24 (talk) 10:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support --Gnom (talk) 12:04, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support MrX (talk) 15:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support Menner (talk) 16:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC) Adding watchlist for the first heading level would be sufficient if UI looks overloaded during testing.
  9. Support Support Tryptofish (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support --Enos733 (talk) 18:49, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support Dalba 21:06, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support --UV (talk) 23:17, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support IJBall (talk) 03:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support Wugapodes (talk) 05:48, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support SupportYnhockey (talk) 09:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support SupportDoc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:29, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support--JohanahoJ (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support --Infinite0694 (Talk) 16:02, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support Sadads (talk) 16:16, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support Apokrif (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Support Support--Akela (talk) 21:13, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Support Yes! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:20, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  24. Support Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:54, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support and please note that this is something very different from what Flow is attempting to offer. Risker (talk) 04:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support Often only part of the page is of interest to me.  DiscantX 13:05, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support as long as renamed sections continue to be watched. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 14:11, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support, per Risker — NickK (talk) 15:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support Support Yes, for talk pages, ANI, and various other places where I don't want to watch the whole page but want to look for comments on a particular topic. PamD (talk) 21:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  30. Support Support YBG (talk) 05:52, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Support Rzuwig 11:09, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support Support preach --SuperJew (talk) 14:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support Logical Fuzz (talk) 21:56, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  34. Support Support Nikkimaria (talk) 01:31, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  35. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  36. Support Support Mlpearc (open channel) 17:32, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  37. Support Support Bináris tell me 18:20, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  38. Support Support Gods yes! I help out at DRN from time to time and we have just started discussing sub-pages for this exact reason; so we can watch the pertinent discussions. So much use for the other Noticeboards as well! Let alone the article pages. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 23:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  39. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:53, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  40. Support SupportRhododendrites talk \\ 02:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  41. Support Support Probably not that useful for articles, but for discussion pages, please, yes. Courcelles 08:40, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  42. Support Support Would make it possible to follow a particular section of interest on public forums that see many threads per day. Noyster (talk) 22:54, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  43. Support Support Wikipedia is hurt every day by the absence of watchable sections, at least in those cases where editors have chosen to put important "to-do" items in a particular section on a busy page, but people decline to follow up with the to-do list because they don't want to have to click and read every time someone makes an edit to the busy page. I added a bot request for this that's going nowhere. The lack of watchability is a significant time sink for me at WP:ERRORS on en.wp's Main Page. The claim at Phab that coders can't give us this because they can't figure out how to track sections in wikicode is irrelevant; if we can identify a list of sections we want to make watchable, it's only necessary to take a diff of the page edits periodically, discard everything above and below selected (and possibly hidden) text, and check for equality. If it's necessary, it wouldn't bother me to limit watchability only to those sections where it's been demonstrated that lack of watchability is causing an ongoing problem. Dank (talk) 19:15, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  44. Comment Comment If technically possible, I'd like to be able to watch a category in the sense that I can see whenever a page is added or removed from the category. Gap9551 (talk) 23:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  45. Support Support useful. Alsee (talk) 23:57, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
  46. Support Support only for discussion pages. That would be useful if you want the fastest response in your watched section. But Oppose Oppose on articles, templates, and others that aren't discussion pages, as it is useless in non-discussion pages. It would be better to watch the whole article to prevent vandalism. --Pokéfan95 (talk) 05:25, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  47. Comment Comment. It is unclear for me how it will work in the reality. I understand its usefulness in the case of Afd, Cfd, different notice boards etc, but how it would be work in the case of ordinary articles? If I would like to have the full article in my watchlist, should I add all sections of that article separately to the watchlist or is it still possible to have the whole article in the watchlist as a single entry? I support this proposal if both options will be available; otherwise strong oppose as it will mess up the watchlist. Beagel (talk) 14:36, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Herramientas para que los editores efímeros analicen reversiones silenciosas[edit]

Contexto

Soy un editor efímero: la mayoría de mis ediciones son en páginas que visito solo una vez. Ocasionalmente recibo notificaciones sobre mis ediciones cuando han sido revertidas, pero no muy frecuentemente. Si fuera un optimista, me felicitaría y asumiría que mi trabajo fue aceptado. Pero soy realista y se que muchas de mis ediciones han sido revertidas silenciosamente una vez que he dejado la escena, cuando otro editor simplemente edita sobre mi edición en lugar de revertirla. Esa es mi definición de «reversión silenciosa».

Se me ocurren dos razones que pueden provocar las reversiones silenciosas:

  • Probablemente las más comunes son hechas por otros editores efímeros que llegan a la página, no saben nada de su historia y simplemente editan algo que creen que debe arreglarse.
  • También hay algunos pocos editores que revierten silenciosamente de forma deliberada y subrepticia. En mi caso, este tipo de editores son hostigadores a los que, por razones que nunca han compartido conmigo, no les gustan mis ediciones. Ellos saben que no le doy seguimiento a las páginas que edito y se aprovechan de eso.

Solicitud de una herramienta

Sería agradable tener una herramienta que pudiéramos usar para analizar una muestra de artículos que hemos editado para identificar fácilmente las reversiones silenciosas.

Me disculpo por presentar esta solicitud parcialmente desarrollada pero parece que el tiempo para completar esta encuesta se está acabando. Ottawahitech (talk) 15:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support. --Stryn (talk) 19:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support --Purodha Blissenbach (talk) 15:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Popcorndude (talk) 03:55, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  4. Comment Comment I think this proposal isn't warranted due to probable very limited use of it, but there's an English Wikipedia script that can help you: en:User:Markhurd/hidetopcontrib.js -- on your Contributions page, running this will hide all the pages where you were the last editor, making review of pages edited since your last edit much easier to do. I would love to see this incorporated into the base wiki code. It has helped enormously with pages I ordinarily do not want to watch, yet I want to see if anyone has touched my previous work in an unconstructive manner. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 14:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Comment Comment There's a proposal above to watchlist sections of a page (mainly for certain discussion pages, but it'd be useful for articles as well). That would allow you to keep an eye on changes to a section you're interested in without as much watchlist noise as watchlisting the whole article - that seems a better solution than attempting to detect silent reverts. DexDor (talk) 20:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Oppose Oppose per Popcorndude and DexDor. Beagel (talk) 14:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Opciones prioritarias en las listas de seguimiento[edit]

Muchos wikipedistas veteranos tienen listas de seguimiento con miles de artículos, lo que sobrepasa completamente la capacidad de administrarlas efectivamente. Si ese wikipedista no puede editar por un periodo de tiempo (digamos una semana), revisar los cambios en la lista de seguimiento puede tomar horas y convertirse en un problema que los editores simplemente evita, a riesgo de no notar ediciones vandálicas o que necesitan ver.

Hay muchas herramientas externas para crear y organizar listas de seguimiento de diversas maneras pero me gustaría que muchas de esas funciones fueran parte de MediaWiki. Un agregado importante debería ser la habilidad de etiquetar los artículos prioritarios, de forma similar a la etiqueta que Gmail tiene para marcar el correo «importante». Tener múltiples listas de seguimiento arreglaría el problema indirectamente pero sería muy bueno ver los artículos marcados como importantes dentro de la lista de seguimiento existente y poder filtrarlos de la misma forma en que podemos ocultar o mostrar nuestras propias ediciones, las ediciones de los bots, etc. —Ynhockey (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support MER-C (talk) 09:50, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support cool suggestion! Alleycat80 (talk) 09:28, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support Ovedc (talk) 09:55, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:24, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support Apokrif (talk) 20:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support --Usien6 (talk) 21:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support There definitely needs to be a way to differentiate between pages on a watchlist, by priority, topic, or something similar to reduce the volume of edits an user needs to go through after an absence. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:21, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support--Barcelona (talk) 12:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support Casliber (talk) 13:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support, just two priorities (high and low) would be enough — NickK (talk) 15:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support and I also have a similar idea to tame watchlists: Implement phab:T58719 for watchists (and recent changes). If I could click "hide trusted", that would really trim down what I see. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 16:56, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support But I don't want "high-priority" only. In fact, I disabled this option on Gmail. Instead, I use tags/markers and different types of "stars". That's what I want.--MisterSanderson (talk) 01:30, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support Ldorfman (talk) 14:56, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support particlelarly the duration idea. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 05:24, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Support Support Mlpearc (open channel) 17:34, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support Chenspec (talk) 21:15, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Support Support, I haven't used my watchlist in years, precisely for this reason. Halibutt (talk) 00:29, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Support --Yeza (talk) 17:04, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  24. Support Support; oh so many times I come back after a few days and I have to use the advanced search in multiple tabs. So annoying! I can't believe this hasn't already happened, but who knows, WMF may just have a good reason gathering dust somewhere since it got discarded. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 23:23, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support in anticipation of a time that I don't check my watchlist multiple times a day :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support (although not high priority) - particularly if it automatically put subpages of your user page (and their talk pages if necessary) on the priority list. DexDor (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support OMG yes. Dank (talk) 19:18, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support Support Mz7 (talk) 04:48, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  30. Support Support Beagel (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Support--Z 12:35, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support Support --Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 22:56, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support -- would make my watchlist more useful. Ijon (talk) 10:06, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Listas de seguimiento con tiempo de expiración[edit]

Me gustaría definir un tiempo de expiración para los elementos de la lista de seguimiento de, por ejemplo, una semana o un mes. Hay muchas páginas en las que hago mantenimiento o elimino vandalismo que me gustaría seguir por un periodo corto de tiempo pero en las que no estoy interesado en el largo plazo. La interfaz que me imagino solo tendría casillas de verificación adicionales: seguir esta página indefinidamente, seguir esta página por una semana y seguir por un mes. Derek Andrews (talk) 23:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Votos[edit]

  1. Support Support 4nn1l2 (talk) 03:26, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  2. Support Support MER-C (talk) 09:44, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  3. Support Support Samwalton9 (talk) 10:41, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  4. Support Support Lugnuts (talk) 12:12, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  5. Support Support IJBall (talk) 14:00, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  6. Support Support Tryptofish (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  7. Support SupportBilorv (talk) 19:38, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
  8. Support Support Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:04, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  9. Support Support Graham11 (talk) 03:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  10. Support Support--Gbeckmann (talk) 09:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  11. Support Support--Shizhao (talk) 09:45, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  12. Support Support--Syum90 (talk) 12:32, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  13. Support Support --Arnd (talk) 14:58, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  14. Support Support Wittylama (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  15. Support Support --Continua Evoluzione (talk) 15:25, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  16. Support Support · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 15:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  17. Support Support Goombiis (talk) 16:38, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  18. Support Support --Isacdaavid (talk) 17:49, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  19. Support Support--Kimdime (talk) 19:54, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  20. Neutral Neutral Seems useful, but not necessarily a priority. This system would probably also require a method of notifying users when watched pages become un-watched, which seems like a lot of work for something users can already do manually with more control. -- 2ReinreB2 (talk) 21:56, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  21. Support Support Gap9551 (talk) 22:35, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  22. Comment Comment Related, I'd like to be able to search my own user contribution list for articles that have been edited since my last edit, i.e., show only my latest edit for each page except those for which I'm still the last editor. That would make it quick and easy to see which of my edits may have been changed in the last few days. Gap9551 (talk) 22:44, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
    @Gap9551: check out en:User:Markhurd/hidetopcontrib.js. It does exactly what you need. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 16:56, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
    @Stevietheman: Great, thanks! Gap9551 (talk) 21:07, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  23. Support Support Helder 23:18, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
  24. Support Support Chaoborus (talk) 02:30, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  25. Support Support. Hand in hand with this, being able to remove pages from one's watchlist directly from the watchlist would be incredibly useful. Risker (talk) 04:39, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  26. Support Support--Jarekt (talk) 05:06, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  27. Support Support Litlok (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  28. Support Support Bgwhite (talk) 09:37, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  29. Support Support Sidevar (talk) 10:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  30. Support Support  DiscantX 13:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  31. Support Support --β16 - (talk) 14:31, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  32. Support SupportNickK (talk) 15:44, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  33. Support Support There are pages I watch expressly for this purpose, but I don't want it to be beyond so many months. One month probably isn't enough for a lot of these cases. More specifically, it would be nice to be able to say "stop watching this so many months after the last vandalism", but that's probably too much to ask for. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 17:03, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  34. Support Support Yes - I've got a ridiculously large watchlist and in many cases a month or so would be fine, as any contentious editing would almost certainly have been done by then. PamD (talk) 22:00, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  35. Support Support Mike Peel (talk) 23:24, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
  36. Support Support --AS (talk) 10:01, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  37. Support Support --V111P (talk) 11:17, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  38. Support Support --SuperJew (talk) 15:01, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  39. Support Support - Sarahj2107 (talk) 22:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
  40. Support Support SantiLak (talk) 10:54, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  41. Support Support --Mark MacD (talk) 13:05, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  42. Support Support Bináris tell me 18:16, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
  43. Support Support Halibutt (talk) 00:30, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
  44. Support Support J36miles (talk) 00:55, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  45. Support Support KylieTastic (talk) 16:19, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
  46. Support Support I don't think this is something that has occurred to me before, but it seems like a smart feature request — Rhododendrites talk \\ 02:06, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
  47. Support Support but this should be far down the priority list. Courcelles 08:39, 8 December 2015 (UTC
  48. Support Support Aircorn (talk) 08:54, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  49. Support Support Yes! Then I would maybe start using my watchlist again. --Waldir (talk) 15:55, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  50. Oppose Oppose unless amended to "remove from watchlist after specified period *if & only if* there have been no further changes since it was added to the watchlist". I don't want entries to disappear irrespective of further activity! Noyster (talk) 23:00, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  51. Support Support - Bcharles (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
  52. Support Support--Ziko (talk) 14:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
  53. Support Support OMGx2 yes. Dank (talk) 19:19, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
  54. Support Support This is a much needed way to avoid permanently clogging up the watchlist. Alsee (talk) 00:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  55. Support Support This would be useful to reduce the needless size of watchlists. Mz7 (talk) 04:47, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
  56. Support Support --Z 12:35, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  57. Support Support Very useful. --Sphilbrick (talk) 15:22, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
  58. Support Support very useful. Saves having to seasonally prune one's watchlist and remove precisely those pages that you only wanted to watch for short-term reverts or comments. Ijon (talk) 10:08, 14 December 2015 (UTC)