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Welcome to Meta![edit]

Hello Ricordisamoa, and welcome to the Wikimedia Meta-Wiki! This website is for coordinating and discussing all Wikimedia projects. You may find it useful to read our policy page. If you are interested in doing translations, visit Meta:Babylon. You can also leave a note on Meta:Babel or Wikimedia Forum (please read the instructions at the top of the page before posting there). Happy editing!

-- 15:00, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Botflag at ksh-Wikipedia[edit]

Your requested botflag at ksh-Wikipedia has been granted.--BBKurt (talk) 16:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've already seen it. --Ricordisamoa 17:13, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Fundraising translation feedback[edit]

Hey Ricordisamoa, I have a bit of a request to ask from you. We pulled down our banners nearly a fortnight ago for what was a highly successful international fundraiser and brought the curtain down on last years fundraiser. This week however we will be changing payment processors and during the testing of the new system it would be useful to use the time productively on on testing banner text.

To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to help us improve our italian text using This Link

Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.


We are going to run the test on tuesday so if you dont see this message till 24 hours after it was sent you can ignore me :) Many Thanks though.

Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 18:11, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Lock[edit]

See Global locks. PiRSquared17 (talk) 13:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

I finally understand, thank you. --Ricordisamoa 13:31, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Mi dispiace di avere a suo tempo tradotto con 'bottone'[edit]

Chiedo venia, co-italano RicordiSamoa, ma per non buttarmi troppo giù, potremmo giustificarmi con le 'prime armi', la 'nuova arrivata', la 'non so quale iniziale deformante smania di volere dimostrare più di quello che riuscivo a fare'.. Ma, se nessun Amministratore sarà così cattivone nel frattempo da bloccarmi, potrai verificare che col tempo che è succeduto da allora, sono un poco migliorata, ed anzi ho meravigliosamente capito che, quando una traduzione è molto difficile per me, lascio che siano gli altri a partire, e.. col senno di poi, vado lì e affino le.. ripetizioni, le doppie mancanti, qualche riga saltata.. Vedo giusto così? Ciao, --Gloria sah (talk) 22:30, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Non fa niente, grazie per tutti i tuoi sforzi! --Ricordisamoa 22:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Your request at nlwiki[edit]

Dear Ricordisamoa, I've responded to your request here. Kind regards, Mathonius (talk) 18:45, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

I've already replied there, thanks for noticing. --Ricordisamoa 13:31, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Text selection and editing tools[edit]

Presently many toolbar links and tools run a "encapsulate" action, t.i. adding some text before and after text selection. Such tools are "pediacentric", they presume that there's only one textbox so they are build to run there. Tools don't run on different textareas or input fields - while the best would be, that they run exactly the same into any textarea/input area.

This draft script reads selection from any textarea/input area and returns the original activeElement and selection into a comfortable format (it's verbose just to make things easier to catch):

function sel() {
    var elemento=document.activeElement;
        var ss=elemento.selectionStart;
        var se=elemento.selectionEnd;
        var contenuto=elemento.value;
        var s=[contenuto.substring(0,ss),contenuto.substring(ss,se),contenuto.substring(se)];
        return [elemento, s];
}

This is a test version of an "encapsulate" script, using sel():

function incapsula(pre,post) {
    var s=sel();
    var testo=s[1][0]+pre+s[1][1]+post+s[1][2];
    s[0].value=testo;
}

What's your opinion about? --Alex brollo (talk) 06:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

IMHO most buttons are actually supposed to be used in "wpTextbox1" only; however, some others aren't (such as special characters). The best way to solve this would be to get the default addToToolbar functions extended by MediaWiki developers, and to encourage tool developers to use those. --Ricordisamoa 13:24, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Well, the programming style of wikiEditor is really very complex - to a discouraging level. I'll try to get some attention by its developers, but it's not "my way" at all: I wonder how much of the code is addressed to "core functionality" and how much is devoted to "beautifying"; IMHO adding an icon linked to a tool can be done with two or three lines of jQuery code and I can't understand the need to write something which needs hundreds of lines with the same (or more limited) functional result. :-(. In the meantime, I'll add my scripts to my personal tools.... ignoring wikiEditor. --Alex brollo (talk) 15:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Update. sel() runs well when shot by an hotkey; doesn't run with a click on a button.... simply, I presume, why after the click the document.activeElement is the button. :-( So, I save sel() for my Chrome Shortcut manager scripts only.

Js scripts su wikisource[edit]

Con i privilegi ridotti di utente semplice, non puoi modificare il nsMediaWiki nè i js degli altri utenti. Spero che questa limitazione sia presto superata. Nel frattempo potrei ridirigere alle tue pagine js la lettura degli script; mi sembra la cosa più saggia, così eventuali miglioramenti prenderebbero subito vita. Secondo te, basta importScript()? E' una routine sincrona o asincrona? --Alex brollo (talk) 15:02, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

Beh... succede spesso che "rompa" uno script Face-angel.svg tentando di migliorarlo, dato che quasi sempre uso le mie stesse sottopagine come test. Se non vi preoccupate di questo, allora importScript o mw.loader.load dovrebbero bastare; altrimenti, rassegnatevi a decine di "{{editprotected}}" al giorno! --Ricordisamoa 01:57, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Non nego che mi punge vaghezza di candidarti come sysop su it.source per permetterti di accedere direttamente al nsMediaWiki; l'unico problema è che non so precisamente se la cosa ti interessi, e se tu abbia il tempo di prenderti questa incombenza. In genere, inoltre, passa un po' più di tempo dalla "prima apparizione" alla candidatura; ma io farei ben volentieri un'eccezione. Nel frattempo, punterò qualche importScript() alle tue pagine js personali; spero di ricordarmi di avvisarti (come avrai visto, sono un pasticcione e non garantisco niente ;-) ).
(ridomando: importScript() è sincrono o asincrono? Detesto mw.loader.load() con tutte le mie forze....) --Alex brollo (talk) 07:23, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
importScript è probabilmente asincrono, ma non ne trovo alcuna conferma nella documentazione... Face-confused.svg – sysop su it.source? non se ne parla, aspetta almeno qualche mese Face-smile.svg --Ricordisamoa 07:55, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Aimè. Ok, continuerò con i miei pasticci.... --Alex brollo (talk) 08:09, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
Puoi provare User:Ricordisamoa/JavaScript task force Face-smile.svg --Ricordisamoa 08:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Importing Iraqi census data[edit]

Hi, Ricordi!

I started Wikidata:Wikidata:Project_chat#Importing_Iraqi_census_data and learned that the ability is coming in the northern hemisphere autumn WhisperToMe (talk) 05:40, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Deep user inspector[edit]

Of course there is always somebody who thinks that everything that is possible has to be done. Of course there is always somebody who ignores the opinion of a community’s majority. No one should be surprised about your inspector. It’s just another disappointment. NNW (talk) 20:55, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

100% agree. This tool is lacking an opt-in. Without this function it must be shut down immediately. -- smial (talk) 21:49, 11 September 2013 (UTC)
You're free not to use it; I'm not advertising it at all. --Ricordisamoa 00:09, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
You don’t? NNW (talk) 07:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
@NordNordWest: that was just a full reply to Cyberpower678's last question. --Ricordisamoa 08:36, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Cyberpower678’s last question, your answer to it. No one asked for the link to that tool, you gave it without a question. NNW (talk) 08:43, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
@NordNordWest: that provisional "answer" was pending for an update, of course. --Ricordisamoa 08:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
From your point of view, of course. The only way to promote that tool. Again: No one asked for that link. NNW (talk) 08:54, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

This is really reckless, Ricordisamoa. Do you know en:Wikipedia:Do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point? Of course you do, you did this on purpose, right? Let me translate you the first reaction posted on your new tool: "This a good occasion to leave the project for good. Last drop on the balance." Congratulations. --Atlasowa (talk) 07:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

@Atlasowa: Snowolf had best illustrated my POV on the discussion; DUI is simply an advanced and interactive alternative (without opt-in/out) to X!'s excellent tool. --Ricordisamoa 08:42, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
@Ricordisamoa: Do you know this discussion? -- smial (talk) 07:51, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
@Smial: Yes, I know it, and it's indeed named "X!'s Edit Counter", not "Ricordisamoa's Deep User Inspector"; the mantainer of the tool agreed the community to have a say on that tool, not on every similar tool hosted on Wikimedia Labs. --Ricordisamoa 08:31, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Apparently your tool has the same approach as X!s counter. As the community in its majority in the mentioned request has disagreed to a counter that processes user data without user's agreement, your tool is not consistant to this majority voting. This is understood as an offensive act against the intention of that voting act and the community. -- smial (talk) 11:45, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Ricordisamoa, thank you for your tool, the visualization of the data is great and beautiful. However as you know the processing and publication of large amounts of (public) data on a specific user is considered inappropriate by a (large, specific) part of the community. Do you think it would be possible to add an opt-in option and give local communities the chance to decide if they want to enable the opt-in method? Thanks Sitic (talk) 13:05, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Hi Ricordisamoa, I kindly ask you to add an opt-in mechanism for such kind of tools. I know that all data are public but to show aggregated data to everyone is not very privacy friendly. Thanks for your understanding. Raymond (talk) 13:28, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
+1 to NNW, Sitic and Raymond. --Don-kun (talk) 15:26, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
+1 --J. Patrick Fischer (talk) 17:46, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
+1.--Aschmidt (talk) 23:50, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello Ricordisamoa. Thanks for creating this tool. I'd just like to give a bit of positive feedback. Using this tool helped me learn a couple things about myself as an editor I didn't know beforehand, like the fact that I apparently edit the most on Monday (I know, makes no sense). I'm personally against an opt-in, and that's all I'll say about that, so thanks very much for taking the time to develop this tool! TCN7JM 23:56, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
Hello Ricordisamoa. I also want to thank you for this tool that gives me the opportunity to find out more about the way others are working in the wikipedia. In this way it shows me when my edit-war-opponent normally is editing and I can send this data to his boss since I know where he is working. Also it brings me a very valuable argument in a discussion to tell everyone that the opponent it only working for about 15% in articles and with more than 50% in discussion pages - he is a troll, don't you mind? Very interesting for me: He is working on lots of articles in the Essen area in Germany so maybe I can found out more about where he lives and how many children he has. ... for myself it doesn't matter if you are able to see my data - but do you really wish to be that opponent I described living in a kind of Brave New World? -- Achim Raschka (talk) 12:31, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
  • This tool is disgusting in my opinion. To aggregate massive amounts of data about a user without an opt-in as the community wishes it, is wrong. Add to that, your tool times out half of the time. I'm going to direct you to en:WP:POINT.—cyberpower ChatHello! 15:07, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
  • Personally, I think this tool is great. We made data about user contributions and page histories transparent to protect Wikipedia, and preserve its reputation. In short, this information is public precisely so that we can use tools like this learn to about who is editing what, and your tool helps us do this even better. The fact that Special:Contribs and page histories make it hard to learn lots about who edited and when is not a feature, it's a defect. The first I did here was to punch in my own username, and learned some fascinating and useful things I didn't know about my own edits, and I'm not the least bit uncomfortable with others knowing that information too. Steven Walling • talk 23:41, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
Sorry Stephen to correct you, but userdata in Wikimedia-platforms like Wikipedia has never been dedicated to the special purpose, that "this information is public precisely so that we can use tools like this learn to about who is editing what". Userdata is only open due to a structural sideeffect of Mediawiki (we use a database to record all actions in detail only as this logging is necessary to be on the safe side in licensing issues), it went to be a playground for big-data-freaks only later. Denis Barthel (talk) 07:58, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Count me as one of the ones who loves the tool. If I could change one thing about it, though, I'd say it should specify if a user is blocked or not. Maybe it assumes you already know. But I love everything else, and I used it on myself and was able to find some edits I forgot about. My favorite page is the map. Interesting name by the way, both the full name and the acronym. Soap (talk) 03:52, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

In case it is going to happen that Ricordisamoa is forced to shut down this tool, I will register a domain and host at my Home Server. I am so happy that such a free solution exists; as I could imagine there are also paid user-analysis-tools for ad-companies and other dirty purposes; and be sure that neither the NSA nor any other secret service needs DUI.

If you really want to protect privacy, you are not going to shut down this tool but a) Strip user data from database dumps b) limit the user contribution anonymous users are able to fetch through the API. That would be a proper solution. Anything else is just harming ourselves while others services can happily continue aggregating and evaluating user data and even offer them for sale. -- Rillke (talk) 21:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

@Soap: user's block information has been inserted in change 0d30333. You can test it out even now with any blocked user. Thanks for the suggestion! --Ricordisamoa 21:55, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
Thank you : ) Soap (talk) 23:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

DUI-time for development[edit]

Hello, can you estimate, how long the development of this tool has taken? Imho the maximum of transparency necessarily leads to an easy analysis. Thank you. --Tavok (talk) 12:52, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

@Tavok: Well, several months ago I created a basic client-side edit counter with static charts. But it was experimental, and I never published it, while I continued to use X!'s tool. ...Until I came annoyed about keeping the opt-in, decided to develop my tool further, and got the job done in few days. --Ricordisamoa 13:01, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

DUI: Negative deleted edits[edit]

Hi, I was just using DUI for my own (commons) account and was slightly confused by these numbers:

Live edits: 6,550
Deleted edits: -130
Total edits (including deleted): 6,420

How is it possible to have negative deleted edits? Am I misinterpreting the numbers? Thanks. Julian Herzog (talk) 18:39, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

It is a known bug: please refer to [1]. Thanks, --Ricordisamoa 14:14, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. Julian Herzog (talk) 21:05, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Feedback su DUI[edit]

Ciao! Forse sono cose che già sai:

  1. La mia utenza risulta Currently blocked by undefined with an expiry time of undefined because "undefined". M'è venuto un colpo, ho pensato "finalmente ce l'hanno fatta!" :D
  2. Accanto alla torta ci sono i dati numerici, ma il testo si interrompe e non si legge tutto: es., Discussioni utente: 6281 (8........
  3. nella tab "advanced", il numero di edit finisce sopra la striscia colorata (quella degli edit per ns) se gli edit sono più di 999.
  4. restando alle strisce colorate (riprese da vecchi editcounter) imho andrebbero ristrette in altezza (così uno può vedere più mesi in un'unica schermata) e ampliati in larghezza (così uno distingue meglio i ns in cui detiene gli zerovirgola di edit). Per come è organizzato adesso, c'è tanto bianco che non dice niente e molta informazione compressa in spazi indistinguibili.
  5. rights: (sempre la mia utenza) lunedì 26 luglio 2010 16:13:33: became sysop and removed rollbacker; mercoledì 21 dicembre 2011 10:44:58: became autopatrolled; manca "removed sysop", no? Come, uno si dimette e non me lo riconosci? :D
  6. tag: cosa significa questa tab?
  7. map: bella! Forse varrebbe la pena rimpicciolire le coord da 1 edit rispetto a quelle da 5, da 5 rispetto a da 11, per dire.

Tutto molto bello e stiloso (nel senso migliore del termine)!! --Pequod76(talk) 20:14, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

  1. Problema grave, cercherò di risolverlo al più presto!
  2. Errore del layout, che tra breve sarà "responsivo";
  3. piccolo bug;
  4. spiega meglio la tua idea;
  5. i burocrati non possono rimuovere il flag di amministratore, il log che cerchi è probabilmente questo, e al momento DUI controlla esclusivamente i registri locali;
  6. i tag sono le "etichette" assegnate alle modifiche dal software MediaWiki, come "modifica da mobile" oppure "vandalismo"; il grafico mostra appunto le etichette in percentuale sul totale delle modifiche, soprattutto per identificare quelle improprie;
  7. gli indicatori hanno dimensioni proporzionali al numero di modifiche alla voce, ma con dimensioni minime in modo da poter essere sempre distinte.
Grazie per la tua opinione! --Ricordisamoa 01:34, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
Ciao! Rispetto al punto 4, le bande colorate sono tozze. Non so come dire, sono troppo grosse nord-sud (in altezza) e poco est-ovest (in larghezza) - questo spiega? Poiché i colori relativi ai ns sono esplicitati est-ovest, sarebbe bene diminuire la dimensione nord-sud e aumentare quella est-ovest. Questo determina due cose: a) si occupa meno spazio nord-sud: più mesi sono visibili; b) si leggono con maggiore chiarezza i dati, soprattutto quelli relativi a ns poco editati (gli zero virgola si vedono solo "premiando" est-ovest con un po' più di spazio). Tutto chiaro? :) Per il resto, grazie per le spiegazioni! --Pequod76(talk) 11:24, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Per il primo bug: Yes check.svg risolto, semplicemente avevo controllato che il messaggio funzionasse con gli utenti bloccati ma non che non funzionasse per quelli "liberi"! --Ricordisamoa 20:04, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
Ottimo. :) Immagino che Currently blocked by undefined with an expiry time of undefined because "undefined" in sostanza significasse "libero", no? :D --Pequod76(talk) 17:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Esatto, proprio perché il controllo di valori undefined in JavaScript è problematico... --Ricordisamoa 03:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Tool di evidenziazione rime[edit]

Ti ho risposto nel bar di wikisource. Sono affascinato dallo script, anche se te ne propongo un uso alternativo (quello di usarlo solo in pagine speciali di "analisi testuale"). Ma vorrei ingaggiarti, visto la tua competenza, per sottoporti un altro problema: quello della costruzione dinamica di dizionari ortografici specifici per opera, come strumento per aiutare l'utente in rilettura. Il problema è molto complesso, ma qualcosa mi dice che tu potresti affrontarlo. Purtroppo i dicionari esistenti ci servono poco, perchè noi trattiamo anche testi con ortografie desuete o poetiche che NON devono essere considerate errori.

Come avrai capito, sono molto più interessato agli strumenti per lavorare che agli strumenti che arricchiscono e abbelliscono il testo a fine lavoro.... è una visione del tutto personale, non farti scoraggiare dal mio punto di vista, altri wikisourciani sono invece entusiasti della cura dell'aspetto finale grafico. --Alex brollo (talk) 16:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

@Alex brollo: ti ho risposto anch'io nel bar di Wikisource. E sono interessato all'idea dei dizionari, approfondisci. --Ricordisamoa 23:45, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
Lo farò.... su Distributed Proofreaders (progetto totalmente diverso dal nostro di rilettura, estremamente gerarchico a livelli di competenza rigidissimi) hanno un ottimo dizionario basato su javascript. Il nostro dovrebbe essere diverso, in base alla filosofia, giusta o sbagliata che sia "tutti fanno un po' di tutto". Là, per formattare bisogna essere abilitati, e lo si è solo "passando un esame" piuttosto difficile! Facci un giro se ti va. --Alex brollo (talk) 14:45, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
@Alex brollo: perché allora non usate tutti Distributed Proofreaders? --Ricordisamoa 22:54, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
(rispondo in ritardo per mancata notifica... dimenticavo di attivarla): siamo in wikisource, tocca usare quello che passa il convento; la filosofia del progetto è comunque molto diversa. --Alex brollo (talk) 08:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Canvas[edit]

Se sei d'accordo, io aprirei, su it.source, tre sottopagine del tuo nome utente:

  • Utente:RicordiSamoa/CanvasLab, pagina vuota che sarà riempita via javascript;
  • Utente:RicordiSamoa/Canvas.js, script "stabili" che riempiono CanvasLab;
  • Utente:RicordiSamoa/CanvasAlfa.js, script "sperimentali" per pasticciare.

L'idea è: tu accedi come/quando vuoi con i tuoi permessi di utente; io pure, con i permessi di sysop, ma (prometto) solo sulla pagina Alfa.

Pian piano, potremmo aggiungere le funzioni per l'acchiappo di un'immagine jpg, il suo riversamento nel canvas, la sua manipolazione (croppaggio-filtraggio-analisi immagine), la sua ri-trasformazione in un file grafico e infine il caricamento su Commons via javascript. Che ne dici? --Alex brollo (talk) 08:24, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Intanto sono andato un po' avanti; adesso ho it:s:Utente:Alex brollo/CanvasLab dove con un paio di click carico qualsiasi immagine e la copio dentro un canvas. Script per ora in it:s:Utente:Alex brollo/CanvasLab.js --Alex brollo (talk) 19:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Forse trovato il supporto per il dizionario[edit]

Da mesi (anni) sto cercando un modo di salvare elenchi di parole tratti dati testi, dopo tentativi pionieristici di molto tempo fa. Di certo non vanno bene pagine o sottopagine (per il fatto di essere "storicizzate" e quindi inadatte a continue piccole variazioni, tanto più che sarebbero "grosse": una cosa che urta la mia "ecologia web". Ovviamente la strada dei cookie, con i suoi 4k ridicoli, non porta da nessuna parte (ma un pochino ho battuto anche quella). Adesso ho scoperto l'oggetto window.localStorage; lo conosci senz'altro. 5 Mby locali, persistenti, sito-specifici. In più, un po' di maneggiamento di jQuery mi fa intravedere che gli elenchi di parole sono molto più facili da acchiappare dall'html che dal wikitesto, dove sono spezzettati e mescolati a testo che nulla c'entra....

Provo a costruire un "accumulatore di lemmi" opera-specifico, vediamo cosa viene fuori e vediamo che velocità operativa raggiunge. Un vecchio script mini-parser per isolare i lemmi di un testo dai caratteri di punteggiatura ce l'ho. Si tratta solo di imbastire un dizionario e creare uno scriptino per aggiungere alle parole esistenti quelle nuove... se tutto va bene è cosa di mezz'ora. --Alex brollo (talk) 22:19, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Il vecchio script va in pensione: basta una banale testo.replace(/[\.\ \,\;\:\-\_\"\n\t\)\(\/0123456789\}\{\[\]\*\?\%\!\>\<]+/g,",").split(",") e la lista grezza dei lemmi, depurata da cifre e punteggiatura, viene fuori in un attimo. --Alex brollo (talk) 10:28, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
@Alex brollo: perché allora non
testo.split(/[\.\ \,\;\:\-\_\"\n\t\)\(\/\d\}\{\[\]\*\?\%\!\>\<]+/g)
? Smiley green alien nerdy.svg --Ricordisamoa 13:33, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
PS: a proposito di localStorage, puoi usare mw:ResourceLoader/Default modules#jquery.jStorage per compatibilità. --Ricordisamoa 13:41, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Grazie; sono estremamente grossolano sia in regex che in jQuery.... ma sono una spugna che assorbe rapidamente i suggerimenti :-)
Avevo adocchiato in localStorage il campo jStorage ma non sapevo a cosa servisse e me ne sono tenuto a rispettosa distanza --Alex brollo (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Ecco la funzione parserNew, restituisce la lista ordinata, minuscolizzata e uniquizzata delle parole della pagina corrente (in view):
function parserNew() {
   var lista=$("#mw-content-text").text().toLocaleLowerCase().split(/[\.\ \,\;\:\-\_\"\n\t\)\(\/\d\}\{\[\]\*\?\%\!\>\<\=\↑]+/g);
   var ll=[]; 
   $.each(lista, function(idx,val) {if ($.inArray(val,ll)==-1 && val!="") ll.push(val);});
   return ll.sort();
}

--Alex brollo (talk) 15:56, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

@Alex brollo: jStorage usa localStorage quando possibile, altrimenti i cookie. È preferibile al localStorage standard qualora sia necessario supportare anche browser vecchi (pur con qualche limitazione). Quali sono le applicazioni pratiche dell'"accumulatore di lemmi"? --Ricordisamoa 16:58, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Un dizionario opera-specifico è uno strumento formidabile per verificare i testi in fase di rilettura, con potenzialità di correzione automatica di scannos compresa la conversione di lettere (tipo cauallo->cavallo nei testi seicenteschi, oppure, più banalmente, perché->perchè nei testi anche piuttosto recenti, o più->piú nei testi curati da Carducci). Nei testi antichi sarebbe una vera pacchia; nei testi moderni, un aiuto utile. L'intero range delle applicazioni possibili lo scopriremo solo vivendo... di certo, non si sente mai la mancanca di quello che non si immagina che ci possa essere ;-)
Un faticosissimo, pionieristico tentativo l'ho già fatto anni fa via bot, ma era uno strumento faticoso e comunque "per un utente solo". --Alex brollo (talk) 14:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Tool suggestion[edit]

Hi! I suspect that a number of users may be interested in opt-out feature for your DUI tool. Please see here and anything you like to read above the section I linked. --Gryllida (talk) 02:18, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Replied, thanks. --Ricordisamoa 03:06, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

DUI[edit]

Hi Ricordisamoa, the dates are available for everyone, but anyway an opt-in/-out option would be preferable, particularly with regard to the Map and the Punchcard – this detailed movement profile could exert influence on the activity of some users, indeed it could provoke quiet a few people to leave off the Wikipedia. But this is not the purport of this message. Yesterday I created some new articles with coordinates, but the Map doesn't show any of them. The largest circle shows an article where I contributed 5 edits (w:de:Himalaya), but the articles with 10–25 Edits (w:de:Bering-Gletscher, w:de:Larsen Islands, w:de:Brady-Gletscher) are not shown. There are some more articles with coordinates, which aren't taken into consideration. I thought it might be good to know. Regards --Anıl Öztaş (talk) 08:04, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

DUI result cut[edit]

I've finished to deploy your Lua module on Wikiquote and now I wish to see my edit count on your DUI. However the "User talk" numbers in French are cut by the right white margin. JackPotte (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

@JackPotte: DUI has critical layout issues (see discussions above). I will work on a full redesign soon. Thanks, --Ricordisamoa 03:37, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Messaggio sulla wp occitano[edit]

Ciao, Ho veduto il messaggio sulla taverna non occitanofòna della wp occitana. Non ho capito così aspetta da noi: azione tecnica, cambio nelle pagine che utilizzano questo modello. We need more information. Thanks in advance. --Jfblanc (talk) 07:41, 19 February 2014 (UTC) (oc:wp sysop)

Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

Please visit this page if you wish to contribute to a centralized discussion about a Wikimedia genealogy project. Thank you! --Another Believer (talk) 21:46, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

DUI issues with Firefox browser[edit]

Hi, your DUI tool is awesome! Keep up the good work! Nevertheless, it has some issues with the Firefox browser: the page seems to have stopped refreshing after the warning... Any explanations? Best regards, --Jagwar grrr... 19:41, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jagwar: have you tried toollabs:dewkin? If you're still experiencing issues with it, please report the user name and project you're trying to inspect, and the error messages shown in the browser console (if any). Also, keeping the browser up-to-date could help. --Ricordisamoa 05:00, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Upcoming IdeaLab Events: IEG Proposal Clinics[edit]

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Requests for comment/Standardize ProofreadPage namespaces across Wikisources[edit]

Non mi pare la proposta sia sufficientemente definita e non capisco nemmeno perché sia in Meta (vedi discussione), inoltre non c'è ancora un solo favorevole per alcuna delle opzioni, quindi non me la sento. --Nemo 19:27, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

ricordisamoa/dui/, doesn't seem to actually exist.[edit]

When calling the uri you ger the message "The URI you have requested, http://tools.wmflabs.org/ricordisamoa/dui/, doesn't seem to actually exist."

Is that temporary? Did it move to somewhere else? 84.137.60.46 08:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

This is due to wikitech:Tool Labs/Migration to eqiad. I'm still in search for a way to port the old .htaccess configuration. Anyway, I've set up a temporary mirror at http://ricordisamoa.tk/dui/. Enjoy! --Ricordisamoa 15:46, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
issue #6, now fixed. --Ricordisamoa 15:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Hackathon di Zurigo[edit]

Ciao ricordisamoa, ti interesserebbe andare alla Hackathon di Zurigo? `http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Zürich_Hackathon_2014 Info qui]. C'è poco tempo, ma se ti interessa, registrati entro domani e poi parliamone. (Aubrey sloggato, dovresti avere la mia mail).

@Aubrey: lascia perdere, sarà per una prossima occasione (nell'UE, si spera!) --Ricordisamoa 00:58, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Aprire richiesta su Bugzilla[edit]

Ciao Ricordisamoa, relativamente a:

s:it:Wikisource:Bar#Barra_laterale_.22Altri_progetti.22_con_link_automatizzati_da_Wikidata

Mi sembra che il consenso ci sia.

Puoi aprire tu la richieste su bugzilla? Non sono molto pratico con bugzilla e se potessi farlo tu mi faresti un grosso piacere.

--Accurimbono (talk) 08:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Accurimbono: Yes check.svg fatto --Ricordisamoa 10:54, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
@Ricordisamoa: Grazie! --Accurimbono (talk) 07:21, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

DUI error[edit]

Hi Ricordisamoa, it seems that your DUI-tool currently doesn't show more than last 500 edits in tab "advanced". Also in "Punchcard". In "overview" all edits except last 500 are counted as "deleted". Best Regards, --Holder (talk) 04:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

@Holder: issue #8, now fixed. --Ricordisamoa 23:25, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. --Holder (talk) 11:09, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit-count[edit]

Volevo tanto ringraziarti, tardi, per l'uso che sto facendo del tuo edit-count. E' sempre il più accattivante ed il più intuitivo e sono contenta che ora funzioni di nuovo. Ma qui di cosa vi occupate? Grazie ancora.--Amaunet (talk) 23:16, 3 June 2014 (UTC) P.S. Ricordo Samoa anche io.

@Amaunet: deduco che provieni da it.wiki; per farsi un'idea di Meta, la Pagina principale è un'ottima sintesi; per approfondire, Meta:About/it. --Ricordisamoa 23:57, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
solo oggi mi sono accorta della tua risposta, imperdonabile! Leggerò la pagina e se posso contribuire in qualche modo lo farò. Il tempo non mi manca ;) intanto saluti. --Amaunet (talk) 14:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Superprotection[edit]

Please consider merging your RfC into the slightly older Requests for comment/Superprotect rights. Thanks, Microchip08 (talk) 17:37, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Microchip08: Yes check.svg Done --Ricordisamoa 17:41, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Great minds think alike, or some such thing[edit]

Requests for comment/Superprotection v Requests for comment/Superprotect rights. I saw your page only briefly, and you had included some useful background. A log link. Could you add that to the background section, and edit anything else there that you think needs amending. John Vandenberg (talk) 17:50, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@John Vandenberg: Yes check.svg Done – see Special:Diff/9478271 and Special:Diff/9478294. --Ricordisamoa 19:30, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Please consider not translating Tech News in protest[edit]

Hi Ricordisamoa, I have just noticed that you've been working on the translation of Tech News this weekend.

I wanted to ask you to consider refraining from translating such pages to avoid supporting the recent actions of the Wikimedia Foundation. On Sunday, they have implemented a change that gives them an unprecedented, unilateral and unlimited power to protect certain pages on Wikimedia wikis in a manner that makes it impossible for all volunteers — including locally elected administrators — to edit them.

The change was secretly forced through without any community consultation, and the Foundation have used this new feature to actively fight the volunteer community of the German Wikipedia.

Your volunteer translations directly sustain such actions of the Foundation. Your work helps them save time and effort that they would otherwise have to invest in recruiting, training and managing new employees, and saves them money they would otherwise have to spend on professional translations.

The recent actions of the Wikimedia Foundation make it very clear that they no longer respect the wishes of the volunteer community, and that they no longer consider us an equal partner. The least we can do to voice our dismay at those actions, and to support our colleagues on the German Wikipedia, is to stop investing our precious time as volunteers on directly helping the Wikimedia Foundation. We can instead translate pages which help all wiki users.

Please take a minute to consider withdrawing your help for the Foundation in protest against their disrespectful treatment of the volunteer community of the German Wikipedia.

Thank you for your time and your consideration! odder (talk) 22:01, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ottoman Turkish 4[edit]

Hello. Could you pleace vote on Requests for new languages/Wikipedia Ottoman Turkish 4.--Uishaki (talk) 03:11, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

CommonsHelper[edit]

Hi. I'm trying to use CommonsHelper here on Meta to move appropriate files to Commons. For example <http://tools.wmflabs.org/commonshelper/?interface=no&image=1er_Encuentro_de_Wikipedistas_Bolivianos_afiche.jpg&lang=meta&project=wikimedia>. It never works, despite having authorized the aplication to work under OAuth. It always gives me an Error:Null message. Since you seem authorized to commit on Magnus tools, can you please have a look at this when you have a minute? The error log is the following:

Querying CommonSense ...done.
Querying image data ...done.
Retrieving image description ...done.
ERROR: null

Thank you for your help. Best regards. -- M\A 20:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

@MarcoAurelio: I inspected the source of the page showing the error, and a slightly modified version of the JavaScript code gave me "The file you submitted was empty" as error message. Investigating further, it appears that CommonsHelper is trying to upload the file from an incorrectly built URL, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/meta/f/f2/1er_Encuentro_de_Wikipedistas_Bolivianos_afiche.jpg. The URL building function should have been fixed with this commit by User:Nemo bis. CommonsHelper might use an out-of-date version of that, but as I wrote I cannot find the code so it's all up to Magnus as always. PS: I have no commit access, I just filed some pull requests :-) --Ricordisamoa 07:02, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi, and many thanks for your detailed answer. We hope that the patch by Nemo can resolve this issue :-) Best regards, -- M\A 14:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
Fixed. Turns out that the wiki is at "meta.wikiMedia", but the file path is "meta.wikiPedia". WTF? --Magnus Manske (talk) 13:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Magnus! But why doesn't CommonsHelper use the same code as your other tools? Nemo's patch is very nice and avoids site-specific code. --Ricordisamoa 15:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Script-Schnark-popuprefs-2

For this!! This is great. And much needed. Schnark has generously announced to shower you with bugreports :-)) There were several earlier discussions since 2012 etc. Have a look at de:Benutzer:Schnark/js/popuprefs too. Thank you so much for taking this on! --Atlasowa (talk) 16:38, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

@Atlasowa: Thanks for the feedback! Please note that a different implementation by Prtksxna is also under review. I've added an incomplete list of the current gadgets/scripts to phab:T67114, which is also the appropriate place for suggestions. --Ricordisamoa 09:57, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
You missed he:Mediawiki:Gadget-CiteTooltip.js, in use since 2012, for context see: (end of) Wikipedia:Gadget/proposals/Archive_4#Reference_Tooltips.
I think the "icons for reference type" is useless clutter. Nobody needs those icons, they will be wrong a lot of the time (newspaper as web etc.), and will needlessly cause bugs. All that they will accomplish is: they will delay the feature for another year.
I won't contribute to phab because it demands my email address. --Atlasowa (talk) 12:48, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
T71474 VisualEditor: Reference & cite tooltips should show content snippets, instead of generic labels --Atlasowa (talk) 14:00, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

DEWKIN times[edit]

If the time displayed on the "punchcard" tab are in UTC, then the labels should also be in UTC, not in am/pm form. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.248.131.55 (talk)

"UTC" in the Deep Wiki Inspector refers to the UTC timezone, not the time format (I don't even think a UTC time format exists), which is borrowed from GitHub and does not carry timezone information by itself. For example, a generic time of 17:00 can be represented as "5p", regardless of the timezone. DEWKIN is always UTC, so "5p" means "17:00 UTC", which is a particular time. I'm sorry for having taken so much to reply, and I hope to have solved your doubts. Regards, --Ricordisamoa 20:32, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Structured Wikiquote[edit]

Hi! I'm a supporter of Structured Wikiquote; almost since I began to use current Wikiquote I realized that it should be structured and wikitext is not the best option.

I think the way to promote the project is making some progress on our own, to show the potential. I'm thinking running some servers: one reduced copy of English Wikiquote, one of Spanish Wikiquote, one of Wikidata and a server which will be the new front end of the project.

The creation of a special page to show the quotes whithin certain criteria (quotes from author W, quotes about X, quotes in work Y, quotes from character Z, etc.) it would be a great advance. This page must have a AJAX interface (killer feature to show the potential of the project) to edit, modify and delete the quotes, and their info; also it should be able to do the same without JavaScript (GET/POST actions).

Also, it would be useful some parser functions, like {{#quote|author=Q937}} to transclude the quote into the old projects. They will be able to choose bitween continue with wikitext+wikidata, transclude wikidata, or redirect to main multilanguage site.

As you can see, it's a lot of work. And I need time to my real job :P, so I think I will start at middle of May. But I don't know if is a task I could alone. We will see.

Eloy (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
@Eloy: Thank you for supporting the project! I look forward to hacking on Wikibase in the next weeks and setting up a mockup with some real quotes. I suggest that we (interested people) design a proper data model before starting any concrete implementation. Later, as I wrote in Structured Wikiquote#Roadmap, a test instance could be created (e.g. at beta.wmflabs.org) for developers and testers alike. --Ricordisamoa 21:50, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

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Structured Wikiquote[edit]

C'è un'osservazione che mi aspettavo di trovare e che non vedo nella bozza. Riguarda il fatto che a mio avviso i migliori candidati alla migrazione, oltre ovviamente chi vuole sperimentare come avvenuto con wikidata, in questo caso non sono le wiki "piccole" in sè ma sono le wiki medio-piccole che hanno alla data di inizio sperimentato un uso massiccio del C.T. e/o una forte similitudine o semplicità linguistica. Questo include con ogni probabilità le wiki che già adesso sperimentano una "doppia versione" (le due no/nn), le lingue artificiali (esperanto), le lingue "ombrello" per aree multiculturali (indonesiano, malese), le lingue che hanno ceppi comuni molto forti e si differenziano solo per ragioni politiche (ceco/slovacco, serbo/croato).

Intendo dire che basandosi su criteri lingusitici si può ottenere una transizione molto più efficace. Si piantano dei ceppi solidi con forte interrelazione e che quindi hanno tutto l'interesse a migrare subito, che poi possono fungere comunque da "punto di partenza" per altree lingue medio-piccole a loro più simili (nei casi citati le altre lingue scandinave, le altre lingue slave, le altre lingue maleo-polinesiache)

In una seconda fase procederei sì a tappeto con concludere le lingue minori che fanno numero con minore sforzo ma questo soprattutto perché queste includono quelle di cui il parlante medio ha una forte conoscenza di una lingua principale (minoranze linguistiche: catalano, basco, sardo, frisone), perché di fatto anticipano l'ingresso come know-how di lingue nazionali maggiori.

A quel punto una minima base di partenza anche per le lingue principali si è comunque creata, esiste un'infrastruttura che ha mostrato di funzionare e quindi anche per le wikiquote più autonome e scettiche il rapporto costi/benefici inizia a essere diverso.

Questo specchietto varrebbe per qualsiasi migrazione di piattaforme "con testo scritto", non solo per wikiquote. Mi rendo conto comunque che wikiquote ha il vantaggio di avere un chiaro "item", ma in teoria l'item è pezzo di un testo che nella sua interessa se possibile a livello di copyrigth sarebbe comunque degno di essere archiviato a livello multilinguistico (Wikisource).

La chiaccherata del più e del meno finisce qua.--Alexmar983 (talk) 10:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Global CSS/JS migration[edit]

Hello Ricordisamoa. You have global scripts and styles in User:Ricordisamoa/global.js and User:Ricordisamoa/global.css, which you import using your local CSS/JS pages. Since August 2014, your global.js and global.css pages are loaded automatically on all wikis. Although you requested cleanup via GlobalCssJs, there are still several pages left like wikivoyage:User:Ricordisamoa/common.css and als:User:Ricordisamoa/common.js. Do you want me to fix this by removing the imports from your local pages using Synchbot (without changing any other content)? —Pathoschild 01:58, 07 July 2015 (UTC)

@Pathoschild: My common.js on als, da, id and min can be safely deleted. Among the other ones, some are empty and mainly left for historical reasons; the rest are still useful and should not be changed. --Ricordisamoa 06:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Done! You can see the list of changes on your archive page. —Pathoschild 03:50, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
@Pathoschild: Thank you! --Ricordisamoa 22:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)