Steward requests/Global permissions
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Global rollback and global interface editor requests require no fewer than 5 days of discussion while abuse filter helper and maintainer requests require no fewer than 7 days. Global renamer and global sysop requests require no fewer than 2 weeks of discussion. For requests that are unlikely to pass under any circumstances, they may be closed by a steward without further discussion (after a reasonable amount of input).
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Requests for global rollback permissions
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Global rollback for Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker
- Global user: Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 27 October 2019 15:18 UTC
Hi there, I'm Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker. On some wiki 's (not all) am I a vandal fighter and it's look like me useful to have a global right and not local. So sometimes has the same user with the same IP-address or user name vandalize the page in more edits and I chose for the mass undo, but that can ask more time. Nieuwsgierige Gebruiker (talk) 15:18, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose No rollback experience, few edits in general and even fewer on projects without local procedures for granting rollback. I don't see a need, or the trust/experience required, to grand this userright. Thank you for volunteering, Vermont (talk) 15:21, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose While rollback is useful for vandal fighting, I see no demonstrated need combined with your lack of experience currently and absence of rollback locally on any project gives me pause. Praxidicae (talk) 15:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose, per above. —Sgd. Hasley 17:57, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I think not enough rollback experience at all. --Streetdeck (Talk) 08:31, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Lack of global contributions and access to rollback on homewiki for basic experience with the tool. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 10:29, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose no crosswiḱi edits, you have only edits in nl and en projects --WikiBayer 👤💬 11:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Too new and has no global rollback experience -J. Ansari Talk 14:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
- Moral Support - Learn, understand and resolve the above concerns. Keep contributing! Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 17:53, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Requests for global sysop permissions
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Global sysop for Iluvatar
- Global user: Iluvatar (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 2 November 2019 01:41 UTC
Hello. I’m in Wikimedia Movement since 2008. I have a technical right to delete pages in ruwiki, 5.5 years i'm a global rollbacker. My favorite activity is fight against vandalism/spam. Unfortunately, there is not always enough time, but now I am relatively free.
I believe a GS should be just a technical flag. The GS shouldn't be analogous to a local flag. The GS shouldn't block experienced conflicted users, shouldn't try to reconcile users, shouldn't act as a mediator or make decisions in non-obvious discussions. In my opinion, it is a flag only for more effective counteraction to vandalism, realization obvious technical requests from a local community and response to requests for help.
I'm developing software for SWMT to fight vandalism. 2FA is enabled.—Iluvatar (talk) 01:41, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Of course! I've had nothing but good experiences with Iluvatar, and am confident in his trustworthiness and responsibility. Thank you for volunteering, Vermont (talk) 01:44, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trust user. Catherine Laurence discussion 04:04, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Experienced and trusted user with a valid need. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 04:51, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Long-term experience in multiple fronts. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:18, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Very active in SWMT and experienced user. --janbery (talk) 06:07, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Janbery - MrJaroslavik (talk) 07:12, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Active with the SWMT and trusted user. --Turkmen talk 08:59, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted and experienced. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 09:57, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support, why not?--BRP ever 11:05, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support very good work--WikiBayer 👤💬 11:13, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 11:20, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support - Worth granting them. Trusted user. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 12:02, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support per all above. --Ashok Talk 12:30, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support. —Sgd. Hasley 14:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support per 1997kB and BRPever -J. Ansari Talk 15:52, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted and very active. Thank you for your help. Esteban16 (talk) 16:05, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Already a global rollbacker. Trusted. EPIC (talk) 16:47, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. --Streetdeck (Talk) 01:55, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Will be a great addition. --94rain Talk 02:03, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I cannot support giving global sysop to someone who does not hold sysop on a local project. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user, active with the SWMT, and has experience using sysop-level permissions on a large project. – Ajraddatz (talk) 03:38, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment I'm a little bit curious about why they did not accept the RFA on ruwiki ~1 year ago as some
complaintsconcerns about not holding sysop flag on content wikisblahblahis posted above. --WhitePhosphorus (talk) 05:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)- I don't really think that's a respectful way to address someone's concerns; and actually shows why I have trust on content projects as a fundamental requirement for either global sysop or renamer. Global rights exist to help content projects, and if someone wishes to use them, they should demonstrate they have gained the trust of at least one community they are active in. When people make comments such as not holding sysop flag on content wikis blahblah is posted above it shows that people on meta/xwiki vandal fighters really have become disconnected from the reason that we exist. The way to solve that disconnect is to insist that people gain the trust of content wikis before considering global permissions. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Do you think being sysop is the only way of proving that they have gained the trust of a commuity? I never viewed trust that way so I am kinda confused here.--BRP ever 05:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- It is the only objective way to prove that unless people who actively edit there are also active here; and can speak to it. That’s not the case here. Trust in reverting vandalism xwiki is pretty meaningless in my view because it’s a small group of people who usually don’t actively edit the projects they focus on. That doesn’t tell us anything about how they interact with others while having access to admin tools. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict.) I apologize for any impolite expression while which is not I originally meant and tried to make it better. I personally agree with that a local sysop-wise trust shall exists (though becoming a sysop may not be the unique way to demonstrate such trust per above, but it's the easiest way for anyone who does not speak that language to examine) and that's why I dug into their home wiki RfA pages. There are many factors preventing one from accepting an RfA - perhaps they finds they do not gain the trust from local community early, or that trust do exists but they don't want the flag due to personal reasons - sadly the page is deleted and I cannot figure it out by myself so I post it here looking for answers. --WhitePhosphorus (talk) 05:49, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Do you think being sysop is the only way of proving that they have gained the trust of a commuity? I never viewed trust that way so I am kinda confused here.--BRP ever 05:39, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- In a home wiki, it is a social flag. And if you requested sysop, you must use sysop. To remove pages, I have a Closer rights. A RFA page was deleted because request was submitted by another user (Sealle) without my consent.—Iluvatar (talk) 10:27, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- I don't really think that's a respectful way to address someone's concerns; and actually shows why I have trust on content projects as a fundamental requirement for either global sysop or renamer. Global rights exist to help content projects, and if someone wishes to use them, they should demonstrate they have gained the trust of at least one community they are active in. When people make comments such as not holding sysop flag on content wikis blahblah is posted above it shows that people on meta/xwiki vandal fighters really have become disconnected from the reason that we exist. The way to solve that disconnect is to insist that people gain the trust of content wikis before considering global permissions. TonyBallioni (talk) 05:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 20:35, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support done good work.—Ah3kal (talk) 03:20, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- CptViraj (📧) 05:35, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support everyone else has already said it. I don't know why this hasn't happened sooner. Praxidicae (talk) 15:24, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Requests for global rename permissions
Steward requests/Global permissions/Global renamers
Global rename for Catherine Laurence
- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Catherine Laurence (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 3 November 2019 02:40 UTC
Hello, I am a global rollbacker. I noticed that zh:WP:UC requests usually take a week to complete, and I want to help with them to better meet their needs because my native language is Chinese and I am familiar with local, and global user name guidelines. I also want to assist in renaming queues for other wiki. Regards. --Catherine Laurence discussion 02:40, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose A few issues: one, being a global rollbacker doesn't really mean anything in regards to global renaming. Global renaming, despite the name, is a fundamentally local process that usually does not involve cross-wiki work in the overwhelming majority of circumstances. On the next point: there is no such thing as a global username policy, and I think anyone who thinks there is does not understand enough about how renames work to be trusted with the permission. There are many local policies on usernames because many different local cultures have different values. The over emphasis on global actions is very concerning. Would you decline to rename a user on de.wiki who has a corporate username because you think that's globally prohibited? What about rename someone on ar.wiki to be the name of the town their from, because that seems like a good faith request that isn't globally prohibited?
Finally, we need more Chinese renamers, but I see nothing to demonstrate that the local community has placed trust in you beyond simple vandal fighting. I would really like to see more zh.wiki sysops apply, but I do not want to see someone who as of late has mainly focused on xwiki work, and thinks that they'll be doing more global work using zh.wiki to get another global hat. Pretty strong oppose on this one. TonyBallioni (talk) 02:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
Support Catherine is trusted and helpful, keep it up. --Streetdeck (Talk) 12:06, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- I Support Catherine Laurence to run for the global permissioner.He was very helpful for the world revert,so I think that he is very good to do this job.I don't think so that he is no good for this job.And he was very many thing that do good in the wiki data,whole world reverter and OTRS,then I think is can do very good for this job.If I say something wrong or I don't know the other thing,please comment here.very thank you.--SickManWP (talk) 12:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment Same as TonyBallioni. --Streetdeck (Talk) 12:14, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support can probably be trusted with the tools. – Ajraddatz (talk) 14:24, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 20:36, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support per Ajraddatz.--Turkmen talk 21:18, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trust, not doubt. And I fixed the interwiki link flaw in the application. --Super Wang hates PC You hate, too? 23:59, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Clear use-case. Reasonable crosswiki experience. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:54, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support fine by me. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 17:16, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support -J. Ansari Talk 11:23, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Question: In you rationale you mentioned that you want to assist renaming queue for other wikis. Which wikis are those and do you think that you understand their local guidelines for renaming? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 11:41, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Requests for global IP block exemption
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Global IP block exempt for IP Range of WikiLoop Battlefield
- Global user: Xinbenlv / all logged in users with WikiLoop Battlefield (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I am a developer, and we are building a counter-vandalism tool called WikiLoop Battlefield, and here is its source code. We recently start to roll out Oauth login and in-place revert feature. When we move our test from localhost to our dev and canary(staging) environment, we noticed that we received the following error.
{ "error": { "code": "globalblocking-ipblocked-range", "info": "'''Your IP address is in a range which has been blocked on all wikis.''' The block was made by [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert Jon Kolbert] (meta.wikimedia.org). The reason given is ''[[NOP|Open Proxy]]: Webhost: Contact [[m:Special:Contact/stewards|stewards]] if you are affected ''. * Start of block: 2019-07-23T12:01:56 * Expiration of block: 2021-01-23T11:01:56 You can contact [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert Jon Kolbert] to discuss the block. You cannot use the \"Email this user\" feature unless a valid email address is specified in your [[Special:Preferences|account preferences]] and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is 3.86.232.24, and the blocked range is 3.86.0.0/16. Please include all above details in any queries you make.", "*": "See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes." }, "servedby": "mw1346" }
We host our server on Heroku, does it mean that the IP address of heroku is being blocked globally for MediaWiki API? Can we apply to be whitelisted for our legit use-case?
Thank you!
- @Xinbenlv: Heroku is a shared host, and Wikimedia discourages hosting service in third-party shared hosts (it may host VPN or reverse proxy, which can hide users' IP address). You should either:
- Move the project to Toolforge (recommended) or Cloud VPS
- Create a edit service in Toolforge similar to toollabs:widar, and invoke the service (you must use GET or JSONP, Cloud does not support POST from third-party service) in the project (not recommended, this may have security issues)
--GZWDer (talk) 18:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- @GZWDer: thank you.
- First sorry I just noticed I didn't use the template (which doesn't apply to IP range extemption for al IPs), I updated it.
- Second, here we are building an app that requires a user to login with Oauth. We only conduct edit on-behalf of loged-in users and their username will show up.
- 3rdly, with respect to your suggestion, We've considered porting the project to Toolforge but we are waiting for the Toolforge to support modern Kubernates https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214513.
- It is not particularly feasible for all users to rely on IP addresses because as many of people who submit for permissions here, IP addresses are only largely available in USA and a few developed countries who took part in early Internet infrastructure development discussions. Many other countries they have to rely on NAT that shares limited IP addresses. Our app hope to expand to all language locales to help users with counter-vandalism efforts. If we block IP addresses, it will reduce the access of these users from Non-USA/developed countries who would like to help.
- In summary, can we apply for unblocking any IP addresses if we have allowed users to identify themselves with login? Thank you!
Xinbenlv (talk) 21:21, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- all, I don't know who to send this argument to... Xinbenlv (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- I start a discussion en:User:Xinbenlv/Propose:Allow_Login_Users_By_Default_When_IP_Range_Blocked
Global IP block exempt for Telyric
- Global user: Telyric (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello, I am a foreigner in China so I have to access a lot of sites, including Wikipedia, through VPN. Please allow me to be exempt from the ban on IP 27.122.13.4 with a range of 27.122.12.0/22, thanks, Telyric
- Fixed the original broken request. BTW @Telyric: I think that global block won't affect registered users so you can edit normally except the wikis having that IP locally blocked (only ruwiki, ruwikiquote and nlwiki did so currently). --WhitePhosphorus (talk) 12:12, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for 虹易
- Global user: 虹易 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello. I live in Mainland China where the wicked enforce excessive Internet censorship. It is inevitable to use proxy/tunnel all day in order to keep stably connected to the international Internet. I have requested and been granted IPBE permission on zhwp and WikiData. But sometimes I also want to edit on other WM projects and it does take much effort to request IPBE on each of them. --虹易 (talk) 08:51, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- 虹易, granted, enjoy. --Base (talk) 10:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for User:Celestmist
- Global user: Celestmist (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello. I live in Turkey where because of the block I need to use a VPN to edit. Although mostly I would be editing Turkish Wikipedia I would also occasionally like to edit English Wikipedia. I have created my user on Wikivoyage.176.235.251.26 11:34, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Please login your account. --Catherine Laurence discussion 11:57, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for User:TimWu007
- Global user: TimWu007 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello, I live in Mainland China where almost all Wikimedia projects were blocked so I need to use the proxy to edit. I have requested and been granted IPBE permission on zhwiki, but I also want to edit on other Wikimedia projects like commons, and it takes lots time to request IPBE on each projects. Thanks! --TimWu007 (talk) 03:34, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
Requests for 2 Factor Auth tester permissions
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2FA Tester for Andrew Base
- Global user: Andrew Base (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I am requesting 2FA tester to have higher security on all of my accounts and I've read the 2FA help page. Andrew Base (talk) 09:19, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Andrew Base, done. Enjoy and please make sure to save your scratch codes so that you don't get locked out of your account. --Base (talk) 10:33, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
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