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Wikimedia Cloud/What you need to know about Cloud & Wikimedia Cloud/Rules and Guidelines[edit]

Out of Meta scope. mw:Code of Conduct is enough for ruling purpose of Wikimedia Cloud. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

Delete OOS. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 05:47, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Substitute the rules and guidelines into the proposal page, then Delete both. The main proposal page is so short that it does not require splitting into subpages and I completely fail to see the use of the navigation page that contains two pages, one of which includes a transclusion of the other anyway. 15:47, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
To the IP, if it is substituted, then the page has to be redirected to preserve the attribution of the original text per the CC BY SA 3.0 License. SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 07:22, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Leaning towards Delete, as the page doesn't appear to be authored by WMCS authorities, see history. @Majavah: would likely want to see this discussion (as a WMCS admin) so pinging them here. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 23:28, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

  • This is about Wikimedia Cloud, which though it has an immensely colorful logo, is unlikely to ever become a Wikimedia project. Optimally all of the related pages would be deleted or moved to userspace or somewhere else where they're not likely to be stumbled upon for someone trying to get to Wikimedia Cloud Services related pages. Vermont (talk) 00:21, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

User:Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen[edit]

Hoax, outside Meta's scope, not funny. * Pppery * it has begun 16:02, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment- whether something is humorous on meta is highly subjective, as evinced by the contents of Category:Humor.Dialectric (talk) 18:17, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
    This doesn't make the page any less misleading. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    18:19, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose for the reasons specified there: User talk:Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen.
It is not meant to be funny. It is meant to be effective.
It may misleading only to the incognoscenti, so I had pinged an old-timer and two there, as soon as I learnt of this request and wrote there, just in case.
In fact, now after my affray subsided (see the timestamps here and there), I see Pppery's attempt as an example of systemic prosecution persecution, speciesism, humanikism and its related tactics and budgetary allocations. To quote, paraphrase and elaborate on our own Board strategic thought from some years ago, now almost fully implemented:
The Movement will never reach its full potential if we do not close the diversity gap... There continue to be barriers in our movement for underrepresented groups [moi y compris]. We as a movement have been called upon by a broad and diverse group of our own movement members to promote inclusivity and reduce harms to our participants; in light thereof the teams had been directed by the Board of Trustees to (among other requests) create the Universal Code of Conduct called for in the Movement Strategy recommendations, etc. etc.
Do click e.g. my enwiki log to see that I had come out since 2015 and thus felinimity is my my unalienable protected trait: I am not making it up here. So is Gizza's silent yet melodious assistant, etc.
The fuller answer is again there: User talk:Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen. Do ask around about some TLAs or URLs therein - WO and WMCUG included, Pppery, should it be needed, as by now they serve as terms of wikiart.
Forsake your human closed mind and heart, pray thee! Embrace universal wikilove and let the empty light start to flicker also in your soul.
പൂച്ചകളു, Zezen (talk) 19:08, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Oppose Oppose
A glance at the development of Wikipedia shows us irrefutably that every phase of its development, every extension, every change, every essential segment of its history, whether it be seen as progressive or conservative, bears the plain imprint of the life-force-being that introduced the change. It was not necessarily its sole or actual author, but it was the instrument of transformation and perfection.
Certainly, what nowadays we understand by personality is something quite different from what the biographers and historians of earlier times meant by it. For them, and especially for the writers of those days who had a distinct taste for biography, the essence of a personality seems to have been deviance, abnormality, uniqueness, in fact all too often the pathological. We moderns, on the other hand, do not even speak of major personalities until we encounter life-force-beings who have gone beyond all original and idiosyncratic qualities to achieve the greatest possible integration into the generality, the greatest possible service to the supra personal.
The Wikimedia Affiliates Association is thus a mode of playing with the total contents and values of our culture; it plays with them as, say, in the great age of the arts a painter might have played with the colors on his palette. All the insights, noble thoughts, and works of art that the life-force has produced in its creative eras, all that subsequent periods of scholarly study have reduced to concepts and converted into intellectual property—on all this immense body of intellectual values the Affiliate plays like the organist on an organ. And this organ has attained an almost unimaginable perfection; its manuals and pedals range over the entire intellectual cosmos; its stops are almost beyond number. Theoretically this instrument is capable of reproducing in on Wikispace the entire intellectual content of the universe.
Since life may summon us at every age
Be ready, heart, for parting, new endeavor,
Be ready bravely and without remorse
To find new light that old ties cannot give.
In all beginnings dwells a magic force
For guarding us and helping us to live.
Serenely let us move to distant places
And let no sentiments of home detain us.
The Cosmic Spirit seeks not to restrain us
But lifts us stage by stage to wider spaces.
If we accept a home of our own making,
Familiar habit makes for indolence.
We must prepare for parting and leave-taking
Or else remain the slaves of permanence.
Even the hour of our death may send
Us speeding on to fresh and newer spaces,
And life may summon us to newer races.
So be it, heart: bid farewell without end.
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Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen (talk) 07:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC) Secretary-General, Wikimedia Affiliates Association; Epirotik Mikrokosmos Kolektiv
Glory to diversity, inclusivity and bionicity! Let us bridge land-air-water (the) mind (the) gaps!
Oh, what do I spy with my morning AI eye, @Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen?! Is it craniata toying with lophotrochozoa indeed? (Spisula solidissima by any chance? - my eyesight is too blurry, you know us felines.) And all that gloriously glasperlenspielled - a sunny daze I shall not [forget]! "Slowly, slowly climb o snail the Wiki mount", shan't we all?
Let me quickly speed Pterois volitans Manado-e back to agallomate thee with alga and Agalmatides further, oh noble sir and our majesty, a veritable Magister Ludi and wikiotherkind Protector that thou art, indeed!
Speaking of aSBsb3ZlIHlvdQ==, do not forget of our YOBLIyfugxf8Yo84eNCy SMTPs, o gentle sir. Non sumus in coeli, as we gxddbov xxkxzt pg ifmk - at least you seem to be closer to these Ely ladies, IP and shoe-size wise.
May also that ꧁꧂ itself will join us in therein, one day, and our small bones will land us in a SignPost or two...
Update: Or will our Excellency deserve another swift and sweet GenderDesk note yet again? O, let its (T)RUTH femalesplain us all also there by stealing groping our idea or two in turn; we nicely beseech thee, o gentle lady of the voting booth...
Zezen (talk) 08:25, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Comment Administrator Note: Please focus the arguments on this issues based on meta policies such as inclusion policies. This page is not for any advocacy and unrelated conversations. These doesn't help to determine consensus and should be kept away from here. Further off topic commentary here will be refactored. Thanks. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 09:30, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete OOS. Only willing to change my mind if Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen makes a more appropriate userpage. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 11:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete. I do not understand a single sentence of the above reasoning. ~~~~
    User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
    13:31, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Loading ☿ with a pitchfork

your truck is almost full. The neighbors

take a certain pride in you. They

stand around watching.
You desire to erase all that you cannot comprehend? :^(
The Wikimedia Affiliates Association is an initiative to unite lifeforms from across wiki- & nonwiki-space & beyond. We are radically inclusive and welcoming of all species, be they earthbound or extraterrestrial, artificially or superficially intelligent, from the past, present, future, or our imaginations.
The triquetra has operated tirelessly for over thirty earth years to foster peace, love, and understanding.
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Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen (talk) 14:06, 1 December 2021 (UTC) Secretary-General, Wikimedia Affiliates Association Sweet Harmony
This: peace, love, and understanding and inclusivity, thus seconded.
Let us thus not cross that fe(line) also in Meta, o gentle admins.
The current Meta guidelines allow:
  • Documentation and discussion concerning the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects...
  • Documentation intended to help users contribute and collaborate in other wiki projects...
  • Multilingual cooperation of Wikimedia projects...
  • Primary research regarding the development of wiki projects....
It is very much:
  • primary (and active indeed),
  • multilingual documentation (FYI myself I tend to use Greek, Chinese, including CHT, Latin, Hebrew, Arabic and Old Slavonic up to PIE, sometimes in one sentence: see my Meta Talk or my enwiktionary or my past Global contributions, and so do others: e.g. last week a Russian when addressing me in ruwiki where we added German, Kashubian and more Slavic into one sentence for good measure, all logged long before this kerfuffle so I am not making it up),
  • cooperative (as per above and my past enwiki declaration, I am not a member of any offline forum)
  • it is helping many users to contribute here and collaborate also in other wiki projects (a verbatim quote from the guidelines), documents and discusses WMF and its projects and will guide them, etc.
If it is HillBilly's English that bothers you, I am sure @Hillbillyholiday Unfrozen can quickly switch it all to ancient Japanese to avoid any further misunderstanding of our WAA's goals. (Again I am not making it up: here are my past jpwiki contributions in turn, long before this page was created).
If HillBilly had unwittingly ran foul of these current Guidelines, would such a switch make yous happy? It is a serious question and a practical proposal, as per above - help us understand.
PS. @SHB2000 - I love TLAs especially WP ones, but Google's first hit for OOS reads: NEW ZEALAND noun: short for occupational overuse syndrome. "another sufferer from OOS told her the condition was manageable" - Oxford Languages. Is it what you meant here?
Zezen (talk) 15:21, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
OOS = out of scope. And I find your reasoning as to why this page is within scope wholly unconvincing. * Pppery * it has begun 18:24, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
Get the same sentiments as Pppery and 1234qwer1234qwer4. I also don't understand a single bit too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs)
Keep Solely because I laughed at the sheer absurdity of some of these keep arguments, funny enough for me to keep. Also in scope; policy is that "discussion concerning the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects" is in scope, and the page being considered most certainly discusses "wikimedia projects," even if in a humorous way. Zoozaz1 (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2021 (UTC)


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Useless imported template, Meta doesn't even have a portal namespace. I generally have been tagging these as {{looks useless}}, but this one is actually used, albeit on pages that were blindly copied from other wikis and usually contain a ton of redlinked templates. If this is deleted, then the use on Category:Language templates should be removed, and the other uses can stay as is (since they are already broken) * Pppery * it has begun 01:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, almost all uses are the ones listed at WikiFundi/2021#Wikipedia articles showcase to be directly retrieved from Spanish Wikipedia, and I don't quite see why they would have needed to be imported. They don't even appear to have appropriate attribution anywhere. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
13:34, 1 December 2021 (UTC)


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Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon Nepal 2016[edit]

It does not look like this one is any different from Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon 2016, and the main category is named Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon without a mention of Nepal. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:59, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Additionally listing Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon Nepal 2016/ne. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
22:16, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
I think We can keep main category (Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon) and a new category named Category:Wiki Women Edit-a-thon in Nepal for specifying the country which organizing the event and delete empty categories. Nirmal Dulal (talk) 05:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! @1234qwer1234qwer4: any concerns left to just deleted the now empty collection here? — xaosflux Talk 12:46, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
In case we are indeed dropping the by-year categorisation, then no. The following categories could be deleted then:
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
16:14, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Category:Dagbani Wikimedians Chapter/Templates/Tabs[edit]

These aren't templates, and I'm not sure what this has to do with "tabs". Looks like all of these can be recategorised under Category:Dagbani Wikimedians Chapter, which only cointains Category:Dagbani Wikimedians Chapter/Templates at the moment, though it might be worth renaming it to Category:Dagbani Wikimedians User Group in line with the mainspace pages. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
21:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

If you insist to delete, it then at least can we simply rename it to Category:Dagbani Wikimedians User Group without moving, just so we can keep all the subpages intact? -—M@sssly 17:53, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't understand your request. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
19:06, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Rename the categories to User Group rather than Chapter; and move everything in /Templates/Tabs to Category:Dagbani Wikimedians User Group. (since they aren't templates; only the header/footer directly under Category:Dagbani Wikimedians Chapter/Templates are. –SJ talk  18:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Tools or Category:Tools and scripts[edit]

Currently, we have the two categories Category:Tools and Category:Tools and scripts, which are only linked to each other by a "see also" hatnote. The first one is categorised under Category:Software and Category:Infrastructure, while the second one belongs to Category:Documentation. Judging by the name though, it looks that both have essentially the same scope, so this splitting makes pages harder to find. While "Tools" is shorter and more concise, "Tools and scripts" appears to be slightly more inclusive, as well as having a significantly higher number of translations. I would lean towards deleting/redirecting the first one, though I am open to see additional arguments here. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
22:23, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Are there anyone have ideas on how can a bot script or template populates one of both? If no such scripts or templates, I prefer merge 1st to 2nd. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:27, 14 November 2021 (UTC)


Seems redundant to Category:Global message delivery. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk)
09:24, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

It exists due to Category:MassMessage/Translations and someone created the parent. So we probably need to find the automated categorisation and change that to Category:Global message delivery/Translations, and then do away with the subcat.  — billinghurst sDrewth 12:46, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Support and Safety[edit]

SuSa renamed to T&S and the category has been empty ever since. Propose to remove it from translation and delete the subpages while redirecting this to Category:Trust and Safety. --Minorax«¦talk¦» 02:00, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Delete all "translations", no senses for keeping. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:37, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Delete translations, keep the category and add {{category redirect|Trust and Safety}} to it. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 10:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Delete translations, keep the category per MarcoAurelio SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 09:26, 19 November 2021 (UTC)


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