Steward requests/Global permissions
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Global rollback and global interface editor requests require no fewer than 5 days of discussion while abuse filter helper and maintainer requests require no fewer than 7 days. Global renamer and global sysop requests require no fewer than 2 weeks of discussion. For requests that are unlikely to pass under any circumstances, they may be closed by a steward without further discussion (after a reasonable amount of input).
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Global rollback for MrJaroslavik
- Global user: MrJaroslavik (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 12 November 2019 18:08 UTC
Hi everyone!
I' m currently rollbacker and patroller on cswiki, rollbacker and pending changes reviewer on enwiki and autopatroller on few projects. I started cross-wiki patrol through SWViewer. Throughout the process I have gained experience in removing vandalism made in various languages (even if I don't speak them). I would like to get global rollback to facilitate my work against vandalism. These rights would be useful for example to suppress abuse filters, which sometimes forbids me from editing. I would also definitely use the right markbotedit
(for example, if multiple pages are vandalized at the same time). If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Thanks! -MrJaroslavik (talk) 18:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Active in SMWT. Masum Reza☎ 04:58, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support good work.--Turkmen talk 08:11, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support: I expect more experience for gr, but good to go. -- CptViraj (📧) 09:06, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support: he works crosswiki works since a month crosswiki--WikiBayer 👤💬 09:57, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral per CptViraj and WikiBayer. 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 12:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak oppose Thanks for the application, but I feel that your current application is still not the time, please continue to work hard! Catherine Laurence discussion 13:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me. --Stïnger (会話) 13:13, 8 November 2019 (UTC).
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support Could have more cross-wiki experience, but I trust he will use the tools appropriately. ~riley (talk) 03:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:41, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Looks fine to me. Leaderboard (talk) 15:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support--UltimoGrimm (talk) 19:13, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 22:26, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support trusted, valid use case --DannyS712 (talk) 05:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support Looks little early, but doing good work. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:20, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:47, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support, Looks little early but okay.--BRP ever 11:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support His work looks fine. --Sotiale (talk) 12:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 12:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support - Fine by me. Good to go. Keep contributing! Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 12:46, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Global rollback for J ansari
- Global user: J ansari (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 14 November 2019 19:03 UTC
Hello, I'm J ansari , I was an admin on hi.Wikivoyage and hi.wikitionery, currently I am Rollbacker and reviewer on Hindi wiki and autopatroller on several wiki projects, member of SWMT and every day active in the fighting cross-wiki spam/vandalism. I have experience reverting vandalism using rollback button and RTRC, swviewer, Irc, tool in the wikis where I already have it. I usually patrol In recent change and sometimes to remove vandalism I have to undo multiple changes made by the same user, so rollback would greatly help in this and overall, which will also save time as well as increase my ability to do more for the project. Thank you! -J. Ansari Talk 15:25, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support User is trustworthy for this role. -- CptViraj (📧) 16:37, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support trusted.--Turkmen talk 16:54, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 18:16, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support -MrJaroslavik (talk) 18:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Streetdeck (Talk) 11:25, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Question: You stated "I was an admin" on two projects. Can you clarify why you are no longer an admin on these projects? Thanks for taking the time to answer :) ~riley (talk) 03:39, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @~riley: Both projects no need local admin then (Even projects have no much users activities) because global admin working well and accordingly so I did not apply to re adminship if projects need to admin. I may apply again it. If you need more clarification ask feel free, Thanks for your comment -J. Ansari Talk 05:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @J ansari: Could you elaborate more on why you were desysoped on those projects? Masum Reza☎ 09:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: My adminship time was only three months on both projects. after the expired I did not apply to re adminship because no needed or no reason, thank you! -J. Ansari Talk 09:56, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- I am seeing a denied request with the linked discussion showing opposition because you did not accomplish much with your admin permissions. Is this correct? You have said twice above that you did not apply for re-adminship. ~riley (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: My adminship time was only three months on both projects. after the expired I did not apply to re adminship because no needed or no reason, thank you! -J. Ansari Talk 09:56, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support Going to assume good faith, but my support is still weakened per the above as potential integrity issues are a red flag for me. Solid crosswiki experience, member of SWMT, and a dissection of various reverts all look good. ~riley (talk) 08:17, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support- 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 12:19, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I would be in support if you hadn't lied, twice, about why you're no longer an administrator on those projects. This does not demonstrate to me the level of trust required. Vermont (talk) 12:35, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Has done a reasonable amount of cross-wiki work, but there was no need to lie to us. Neutral per Vermont and Riley. Masum Reza☎ 12:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Neutral While (denied != not applied) and it's harder to give you the benefit of doubt (regarding possible misinterpretation etc), that's the only issue. Leaderboard (talk) 15:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support Being a hiwiki user I had positive interactions with them, and I think they did not purposely hide that the sysop request was denied. Reason for weak support is because I think it's little bit early and they haven't shown much in crosswiki patrolling. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:30, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support can be trusted --DannyS712 (talk) 09:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Weak support--𐐎ℹ𝕜ⅈ𝓑𝒂𝕪ⅇ𝕣 👤💬 10:07, 12 November 2019 (UTC)- Oppose, per Vermont and 1997kB.--BRP ever 11:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support - I feel his intention wasn't to lie or hide regarding his past adminship. He has missed to explain us well. To be honest, I have positive interactions with him on hiwiki, Facebook and IRC for the very first time. Good start with patrolling so fine by me. Keep it up! Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 13:15, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Because your admin status on both projects achieved nothing. You appear to be just a "Hat Collector" and succeeded in getting rights on both the projects because there were not much users to support or oppose. And mentioning here that you were ADMIN on those projects is just a flowery thing.--SM7--talk-- 16:21, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- It's not that bad, small wikis have very little work that needs mop. Let us not forget that we are all volunteers here.--BRP ever 02:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose after much consideration: later and not now--𐐎ℹ𝕜ⅈ𝓑𝒂𝕪ⅇ𝕣 👤💬 17:36, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Really good work and trusted. — Masum Ibn Musa Conversation 14:13, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Global rollback for Bovlb
- Global user: Bovlb (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 15 November 2019 22:00 UTC
Hello. I have been a sysop on English Wikipedia for 14 years, and sysop on Wikidata for 15 months. I am mostly active on Wikidata and on English-language projects, but my Wikidata work often leads me to investigate cross-project issues on other projects, including (with appropriate caution) those in languages with which I am unfamiliar. I often find cases where a user has caused disruption across multiple projects, or where facts are inconsistent between the corresponding Wikipedia articles, and do my best to follow up everywhere.
I anticipate using global rollback in the following ways:
- Skip captcha
- Edit as autoconfirmed to bypass pending changes and certain edit filters, e.g. for removing large amounts of content. I have found cases where I have been prevented from reverting vandalism because of the edit filters on a particular project.
- Rollback edits by cross-wiki vandals
My wiki philosophy is to be cautious in tool use, encouraging of new users, and responsive to criticism. I also have the privilege to be a real-life mentor to a number of wiki-editors, again including some who use languages in which I am not fluent. I use 2FA. I am not a member of SWMT. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 22:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- And in the interests of full disclosure, see Steward_requests/Global_permissions/2019-11#Global_sysop_for_Bovlb. Bovlb (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Your request for GS was denied/or withdrawn not even a week ago. Why you are applying for another global right when you don't have enough cross-wiki experience? My suggestion would be to wait a while, use SWViewer or similar tool to revert cross-wiki vandalism and work on small wikis. Until you gain sufficient experience, Oppose. By the way there is another global group with the skip captcha right. You may wish to apply for that instead. But that is only for visually impaired persons IIRC. Masum Reza☎ 06:23, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: CAPTCHA exemptions: another accepted rationale for granting this right: : Because one is often asked to enter CAPTCHA when editing other wikis (and not be a bot), thanks to NigelSoft. SWViewer is interesting for rb (local or gr) or gs. —Eihel (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: Thanks for the response. You will note from the link I supplied that I explicitly withdrew that request in favour of this one, in response to the feedback I was given.
- Regarding cross-wiki experience, I'm sure there are many editors with more cross-wiki experience than me, but I'm curious to know what your threshold is. Bovlb (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Unlike global sysop group, global rollbacker group is true global and let's the right holder use it on any wiki. You are familiar with big wikis, but the scope of global rollbacker is patrolling all wikis even smaller ones. I am pretty sure that you wouldn't abuse this right but it's pretty easy to mess things up without having sufficient experience. Working cross-wiki helps the candidates of GR and GD to learn more about those wikis. If you are not going to be an SWMT member, then there's no point in granting these rights to you. You should ask for these rights on each wikis where you need them. Masum Reza☎ 18:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Masumrezarock100: Please forgive my directness, but you don't seem to have responded to my second point: I am really interested to know how you measure cross-wiki activity and what your threshold is.
- Unlike global sysop group, global rollbacker group is true global and let's the right holder use it on any wiki. You are familiar with big wikis, but the scope of global rollbacker is patrolling all wikis even smaller ones. I am pretty sure that you wouldn't abuse this right but it's pretty easy to mess things up without having sufficient experience. Working cross-wiki helps the candidates of GR and GD to learn more about those wikis. If you are not going to be an SWMT member, then there's no point in granting these rights to you. You should ask for these rights on each wikis where you need them. Masum Reza☎ 18:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the suggestion. I could certainly seek rollbacker one-by-one on the Wikis where I encounter problems most frequently, but I don't have a specific set of wikis in which I work. I am seeking global permissions because I do not want to limit the set of projects to which I can contribute efficiently when performing cross-wiki countervandalism.
- If you are not going to be an SWMT member, then there's no point in granting these rights to you. If this is a de facto policy, then perhaps it should be made explicit. Bovlb (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Apologies for missing your second question. I measured your cross-wiki activity using these tools. Per [1], as of now, you have
- More than one edit in 28 wikis
- More than 5 edits in 7 wikis.
- More than 10 edits in 7 wikis
- More than 25 edits in 6 wikis.
- More than 50 edits in 4 wikis.
- More than 100 edits in 3 wikis.
- More than 1000 edits in 2 wikis.
- More than 10000 edits in 1 wiki.
- Also see StalkToy. Your global contributions analysis shows that you are not active in those wikis where you contributed in the past. I could not possibly go to every wiki and check your contributions there. These tools are very very slow and sometimes they return blank response, I have to admit. But GUC tool is more faster IMO. There could be other tools out there. Also I do not have any specific GR criteria. Masum Reza☎ 04:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose An crosswiki experience was requested for gs, for gr too. —Eihel (talk) 07:24, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose Trusted user with good judgement, no doubt, but limited crosswiki experience. I am unable to support someone for GR if they are not interested in being a member of SWMT. ~riley (talk) 08:05, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @~riley: Thanks. I choose to spend my limited volunteer time primarily as a sysop on Wikidata and related cross-wiki actions, and I am making this request in support of that. I'm sure the SWMT does great work, but I know from experience that I should not take on another commitment that might stretch me too thin, hence my clarity on the subject above. I am surprised to learn that this might be considered to be a necessary precondition. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Bovlb: My necessary precondition is based on the Global rollback policy (see below).
Users must be demonstrably active in cross-wiki countervandalism or anti-spam activities (for example, as active members of the Small Wiki Monitoring Team) and make heavy use of revert on many wikis
- @Bovlb: My necessary precondition is based on the Global rollback policy (see below).
- @~riley: Thanks. I choose to spend my limited volunteer time primarily as a sysop on Wikidata and related cross-wiki actions, and I am making this request in support of that. I'm sure the SWMT does great work, but I know from experience that I should not take on another commitment that might stretch me too thin, hence my clarity on the subject above. I am surprised to learn that this might be considered to be a necessary precondition. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Your application reads, " I often find cases", which implies you are stumbling across vandalism or spam, rather than actively monitoring it. Twinkle likely will better suit your needs. ~riley (talk) 18:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @~riley: Thank you for clarifying. I read that reference as providing membership in SWMT only as an example of how to demonstrate cross-wiki activity, not as a hard requirement. My record clearly shows cross-wiki activity and reversion on multiple projects in multiple languages. Maybe my level of cross-wiki activity is too low for you, but I'm having real trouble here understanding how this is measured, or what the threshold would be. The policy you cite provides no specific guidance.
- I'm not sure what distinction you seek to draw between monitoring for vandalism and finding it. I primarily monitor for vandalism on Wikidata. When I find it, I perform cross-wiki checks, and often find more elsewhere. Sometimes I encounter difficulties in reverting it, which I am seeking to reduce here by requesting global permissions.
- Thanks for the suggestion to use Twinkle. I was unaware that it could be enabled globally across all projects (and the documentation I just looked at does not mention this possibility). Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- User:Xiplus/TwinkleGlobal.js is what you are looking for - it will allow you to undo more than one edit by the same editor (aka rollback) similar to how it functions on enwiki. In response to your question about how I am measuring your cross-wiki activity, crossactivity illustrates a low threshold of activity. ~riley (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @~riley: Thanks for the Twinkle pointer; I will try that out. Your crossactivity link just returns an empty response for me; I have been assuming that the tool was broken for everyone. Bovlb (talk) 21:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- User:Xiplus/TwinkleGlobal.js is what you are looking for - it will allow you to undo more than one edit by the same editor (aka rollback) similar to how it functions on enwiki. In response to your question about how I am measuring your cross-wiki activity, crossactivity illustrates a low threshold of activity. ~riley (talk) 21:08, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Your application reads, " I often find cases", which implies you are stumbling across vandalism or spam, rather than actively monitoring it. Twinkle likely will better suit your needs. ~riley (talk) 18:44, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong oppose For which global permission do you candidate next week without a crosswiki work? look now to this premissionSpecial:GlobalGroupPermissions/captcha-exempt and later higher premissions.---𐐎ℹ𝕜ⅈ𝓑𝒂𝕪ⅇ𝕣 👤💬 09:15, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @WikiBayer: I have read and re-read your comment above, and I'm afraid I am unable to determine its meaning, and hence to understand the basis for your strong opposition. Could you please clarify? Thanks, Bovlb (talk) 20:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't think GR will serve your needs (as your original request said that you wanted to delete pages cross-wiki); even GS is better than that. My preference would be for you to apply for global delete instead. Leaderboard (talk) 15:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Leaderboard this premission is only for bots see Global deleters--𐐎ℹ𝕜ⅈ𝓑𝒂𝕪ⅇ𝕣 👤💬 15:24, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @WikiBayer: It's not set in stone, and I think he has a valid use-case to request a right this specific. Leaderboard (talk) 17:46, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Leaderboard: Thanks for the feedback. I think you must have misread or misremembered something, as I have no need to delete pages cross-wiki and did not request it. I did spend some time expanding on the use case for examining deleted pages, primarily to justify why I was requesting global sysop rather than global rollback. Cheers, Bovlb (talk) 18:01, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Bovlb: I apologise for that mistake. However, global delete does allow users to view deleted pages, and hence I still prefer that you take that route for now. Leaderboard (talk) 14:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose due to lack of relevant experience. I'd like to see more evidence of capability handling vandalism and other content they would use GR on in wikis where they don't know the language before I would support. I would also like to note (to the other opposers) that being a SWMT member is not a prerequisite or a requirement for Global Rollback. Although most uses for GR are within the scope of SWMT, there are plenty of acceptable use cases that are not connected to the userright. Best regards, and thank you for volunteering. Vermont (talk) 21:11, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Weak support Reading their rationale I see that they stated they wanted to skip captcha, revert vandal and edit as autoconfirmed user. Most of small wikis provide autoconfirmed status after 4 days of registeration (i.e acewiki) and while they say they want to skip captcha and revert vandalism but I don't see much activities related to that. Edits they have on most of wikis are big one and have their own requirements for rollback, and Global rollback should not be used to skip that. I'm weak supporting because user is trusted and sysop on two large projects, but still there are requirements for GR which don't meet. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 08:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Long term experience and demonstrated valid need. With their experience on two of our largest projects and length of editing tenure, they clearly know what they are doing. And that's sufficient for me. – Ammarpad (talk) 05:41, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Global rollback for ~riley
- Global user: ~riley (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 17 November 2019 05:11 UTC
Hey there, I have been an administrator at Commons for several years now and am a rollback and/or patroller on a few other projects; I figure it's time to throw my hat in the mix to be considered for GR. Being an admin on Commons, I get to work with a broad range of languages and I have found this experience has been priceless when working with the SWMT. My tool of choice is SWViewer, which I have been lending a hand to improve lately, as I believe in providing specific rationale for reversion of edits as well as issuing local warnings to help prevent further abuse. I think its important to acknowledge that patrolling dozens of languages means that there is potential for error; I try to be the first to notice when I screw up and I correct by going back and fixing it. If I'm not the first to notice, I'll at least be quick to own up to the mistake. I feel I have significant crosswiki experience to warrant this request and as a holder of advanced permissions (sysop, OTRS, etc.), that I can be trusted to use global rollback wisely. Thanks for your consideration. ~riley (talk) 05:11, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support -MrJaroslavik (talk) 05:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support No brainer. Strongest support. --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Not a jerk, has a clue and significant amount of cross-wiki experience. Masum Reza☎ 05:24, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted and have experience. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support, I couldn't find any reason to oppose. -- CptViraj (📧) 08:56, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Can be trusted --DannyS712 (talk) 09:02, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --𐐎ℹ𝕜ⅈ𝓑𝒂𝕪ⅇ𝕣 👤💬 09:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- FitIndia Talk Commons 09:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 11:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Definitely. Trusted, knowledgeable, and rational. Thank you for volunteering. Vermont (talk) 11:21, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support, Why not?--BRP ever 11:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support - For me, he is definitely trusted and good to go with this. I have good interactions with him. Kind regards, — Tulsi Bhagat (contribs | talk) 12:37, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Per Vermont and Tulsi. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 12:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Jianhui67 talk★contribs 12:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support I haven't seen this name in a while. —Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 13:58, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Experienced and trusted. No problem to me. Thanks for application! Rafael (stanglavine) msg 14:14, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support--Turkmen talk 15:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support :) —Sgd. Hasley 15:30, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support 大诺史 (Talk/留言/토론/Discussion) 17:31, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support – Ammarpad (talk) 05:29, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- Strong support Really good work and trusted. — Masum Ibn Musa Conversation 14:14, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Requests for global sysop permissions
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Requests for global rename permissions
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Global rename for Turkmen
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- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Turkmen (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 12 November 2019 20:11 UTC
Hello. I'm a global rollbacker and a global sysop. Furthermore, I'm a local sysop on multiple projects. I'am familiar with the global rename policy. I can speak and understand multiple Turkic languages. Thus, I believe that I can help as a global renamer. Also, I can help in reducing the queues in large projects and Meta-Wiki. Thank you!--Turkmen talk 20:11, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. --Streetdeck (Talk) 04:20, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support -MrJaroslavik (talk) 13:48, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 14:27, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support --janbery (talk) 14:03, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Support -J. Ansari Talk 16:43, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support - trusted editor - Taketa (talk) 10:04, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- You're an administrator on five content projects, four of which you don't edit frequently anymore, and a global sysop/global rollbacker. At what point are you spreading yourself too thin? Vermont (talk) 10:42, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hello dear @Vermont:. You gave a reasonable question. Yes, my activity went downwards since September 10. This is related to my education in the university. I will repair my activity on November 4. But please check out my acitivity from June to September of this year. You also witnessed my activity during that time period. I would not apply for this right if I was going to be an inactive user. Thanks!--Turkmen talk 17:17, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
- Has enough experience. I think Turkmen will be a good renamer. --Stïnger (会話) 13:14, 8 November 2019 (UTC).
- Support I think Turkmen have all the necessary skills for this. Experienced and trusted editor/user. --Mehman 97 18:35, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support I can't see this becoming an issue, and it would certainly be helpful to have more renamers familiar with Turkic languages. –MJL ‐Talk‐☖ 22:38, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support. —Sgd. Hasley 11:40, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Question: Suppose there was an experienced user who has decided to vanish and is renamed to some random name so will I be able to change my name to the name that they used earlier? Also what if an experienced user retired long ago (suppose 8-10 years) and now I would like to be renamed to that user's name and the user doesn't mind then will I be able to do so? To be honest I myself have no answers to these questions, I am just curious what happens in these situations.--BRP ever 12:04, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Hello dear @BRPever:. This is an interesting question. I think, if the user is willing, you can change the username. Also, what kind of a problem can you face when you apply for a username, which has a holder that has been inactive for 8-10 years? I've witnessed this myself. You can check out this link. Thank you!--Turkmen talk 16:57, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support thank you for helping. --Sotiale (talk) 13:06, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user and having more global renamers familiar with different languages is a good thing. Has my support. --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:29, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Multilingual renamers are needed. ~riley (talk) 06:07, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Biplab Anand (Talk) 07:48, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Okay. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 10:58, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted editor. FitIndia Talk Commons 15:27, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted and helpful user. But IMO we should not rename to old username of experienced users even if they allow it. There's are multiple reasons for that, one is there are signs all over which do not change even after rename and if anyone will click them after rename they will be interacting to a different user. Another is a security issue as most experienced users have js css pages and there's a possibility that someone use those js in their own js and this could lead to a serious problem as after rename user can edit those js pages which are loaded in others. Sorry for lengthy explanation. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 07:45, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Can be trusted, valid use case --DannyS712 (talk) 09:03, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support, please consult other renamers if there are any confusions. Good luck :) --BRP ever 11:38, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 14:46, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Done, clear consensus. Trijnsteltalk 22:53, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Requests for global IP block exemption
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Global IP block exempt for IP Range of WikiLoop Battlefield
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Statement
I am a developer, and we are building a counter-vandalism tool called WikiLoop Battlefield, and here is its source code. We recently start to roll out Oauth login and in-place revert feature. When we move our test from localhost to our dev and canary(staging) environment, we noticed that we received the following error.
{ "error": { "code": "globalblocking-ipblocked-range", "info": "'''Your IP address is in a range which has been blocked on all wikis.''' The block was made by [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert Jon Kolbert] (meta.wikimedia.org). The reason given is ''[[NOP|Open Proxy]]: Webhost: Contact [[m:Special:Contact/stewards|stewards]] if you are affected ''. * Start of block: 2019-07-23T12:01:56 * Expiration of block: 2021-01-23T11:01:56 You can contact [//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Kolbert Jon Kolbert] to discuss the block. You cannot use the \"Email this user\" feature unless a valid email address is specified in your [[Special:Preferences|account preferences]] and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is 3.86.232.24, and the blocked range is 3.86.0.0/16. Please include all above details in any queries you make.", "*": "See https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php for API usage. Subscribe to the mediawiki-api-announce mailing list at <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-api-announce> for notice of API deprecations and breaking changes." }, "servedby": "mw1346" }
We host our server on Heroku, does it mean that the IP address of heroku is being blocked globally for MediaWiki API? Can we apply to be whitelisted for our legit use-case?
Thank you!
Responses
- @Xinbenlv: Heroku is a shared host, and Wikimedia discourages hosting service in third-party shared hosts (it may host VPN or reverse proxy, which can hide users' IP address). You should either:
- Move the project to Toolforge (recommended) or Cloud VPS
- Create a edit service in Toolforge similar to toollabs:widar, and invoke the service (you must use GET or JSONP, Cloud does not support POST from third-party service) in the project (not recommended, this may have security issues)
--GZWDer (talk) 18:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- @GZWDer: thank you.
- First sorry I just noticed I didn't use the template (which doesn't apply to IP range extemption for al IPs), I updated it.
- Second, here we are building an app that requires a user to login with Oauth. We only conduct edit on-behalf of loged-in users and their username will show up.
- 3rdly, with respect to your suggestion, We've considered porting the project to Toolforge but we are waiting for the Toolforge to support modern Kubernates https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T214513.
- It is not particularly feasible for all users to rely on IP addresses because as many of people who submit for permissions here, IP addresses are only largely available in USA and a few developed countries who took part in early Internet infrastructure development discussions. Many other countries they have to rely on NAT that shares limited IP addresses. Our app hope to expand to all language locales to help users with counter-vandalism efforts. If we block IP addresses, it will reduce the access of these users from Non-USA/developed countries who would like to help.
- In summary, can we apply for unblocking any IP addresses if we have allowed users to identify themselves with login? Thank you!
Xinbenlv (talk) 21:21, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
- all, I don't know who to send this argument to... Xinbenlv (talk) 10:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- I start a discussion en:User:Xinbenlv/Propose:Allow_Login_Users_By_Default_When_IP_Range_Blocked
- There is a block configurations to let logged in users edit while on blocked IP: However we usually do not allow it on NOP blocks. We cannot let anyone using your tool be exempt from the block, this is a software restrictions. There's just no way to do that. And since we are not going to unblock AWS — thus Heroku — I think your only bet is to follow GZWDer's advice. — regards, Revi 07:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @-revi:, @GZWDer: thanks for answering. How about the following solutions sound to admins?
- if we use certain way to crypt-sign a request from our app's server, can you grant app-specific exception for this use-case? (rather than unblocking all IP-addresses but unblockgin all users who have signed in and use our app)?
- if we managed to find a fixed IP address, can you unblock individual IP address of the one that we use for our webapp?
- Xinbenlv (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
- @-revi:, @GZWDer: thanks for answering. How about the following solutions sound to admins?
- #1: There's no such feature(tm) to do so. #2: I think I can do that, with two conditions: You notify us when you stop your project (thus releasing the IP to the shared pool) and you absolutely always require authentication. — regards, Revi 04:40, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @-revi: thank you! Yes. We are likely to use at most 3 IP addresses at this moment:
- 35.222.141.110 for dev
- 34.67.56.51 for canary (staging)
- 34.69.252.115 for prod
- and I agree to both terms: we will absolutely require authentication(in fact you can just allow only login users to edit from these IP addresses) and we will notify you when we stop project and release the IP to the shared pool. (once the Toolforge support mount on Root or custom domain, or we are approved for WMF Cloud VPS)
- Xinbenlv (talk) 06:13, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Note individual IPs can not be globally whitelisted (phab:T42439). They can only be whitelisted locally.--GZWDer (talk) 19:58, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- @GZWDer:, thank you!
- Do I understand it correctly that both the global and local needs to unblock the IP for any IP address to be used? While I will work on applying for individual local wiki's IP whitelist approve, can I ask why individual IPs can not be globally whitelisted? In particular, is it a policy or a technical reason?
- If it's a policy, I'd argument by fixing the static IP, it's no longer an Open Proxy since being reserved and occupied by an application, a random internet user cannot use it. Given that we promise that we only authenticate users, it's a fixed set of users (only registered Wikipedian users) rather than open to public.
- If it's a technical issue, I'd argument previously we are blocking IP range IP1 to IP3, now if we have a static IP2 to unblock, you can block [IP1, IP2), (IP2, IP3]
- Dear global admins, what do you think? Thank you!
- Xinbenlv (talk) 21:35, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
- Please let me know if there are other information you would love me to provide accompanying this application Xinbenlv (talk) 22:49, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- It's a technical reason. We simply cannot globally whitelist individual IP addresses, even if we wanted to. Trijnsteltalk 23:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Trijnstel: thank you for your answer. Can you help me understand how that is not technically possible? I suggested that you can unblock [IP1, IP2), (IP2, IP3] instead of the range [IP1,IP3]? Or what are alternatives if you could kindly suggest? Xinbenlv (talk) 02:54, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- It's a technical reason. We simply cannot globally whitelist individual IP addresses, even if we wanted to. Trijnsteltalk 23:06, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- @-revi: thank you! Yes. We are likely to use at most 3 IP addresses at this moment:
- @RonaldB: What can you tell me about the IP address 3.86.232.24? Currently the whole /16 IP range has been blocked and I don't think it's possible/desired to unblock a part of it, but perhaps you can advice? Trijnsteltalk 18:47, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for Nurseways
- Global user: Nurseways (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hi, I only connect to the internet through a VPN due to freedom of speech limitations in my country. For instance, see this recent news article from MSN Brazil (content from Deutsch Welle Brazil) about the current far-right government trying to censor a Wikipedia article and seeking legal prosecution of an editor:
I can supply other examples if needed. The IP I am editing from is my personal VPN, not an open proxy - I am the sole person with access to this IP. I received an error message regarding an IP block when I tried to create an account at the Brazilian Wikipedia directing me to contact user Jon Kolbert who directed me to make a request for an IP Block exemption here. May I use Wikipedia with this VPN? I do not need an exemption for any other IP, thanks --Nurseways (talk) 12:15, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
- You said that "you are editing" but the only your edit is to this page. Please, clarify. Ruslik (talk) 17:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for Celestmist
- Global user: Celestmist (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Hello again, You kindly gave me this a couple of weeks ago, but when I try to edit, with a VPN of course, I get a message that I have been blocked from editing: reason "webhostblock".Celestmist (talk) 10:56, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Celestmist Global IP block exemption permissions only help bypassing IPs which are globally blocked only. If there's a local IP block, GIPBE will not help you bypass that. You'll need to ask for local ipblock-exempt permission on that wiki.—MarcoAurelio (talk) 13:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
In case it might help you diagnose the problem I logged in to my user on the same device, same VPN and same network here in Turkey (where we are blocked from editing normally as you know) about a minute later and had no problem making the same edit, on the same article on English Wikipedia. So perhaps the problem is due to a difference between our user-ids.Chidgk1 (talk) 13:27, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Ah thanks I checked my user-id and I see I also have ipblock exempt on English Wikipedia. If Celestmist is confused I will explain when we meet in person next week.Chidgk1 (talk) 14:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Not done Nothing to do here. Ruslik (talk) 17:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Ah thanks I checked my user-id and I see I also have ipblock exempt on English Wikipedia. If Celestmist is confused I will explain when we meet in person next week.Chidgk1 (talk) 14:46, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for Uzielbot
- Global user: Uzielbot (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I am using this bot account to upload data to Wikidata using script. I am having issues running the script on my own machine due to connectivity issues etc. and tried to get this to work on Digital Ocean droplet, just to find out their IP range is blocked. Will be glad to remove the global block for my bot account, in order to use Digital Ocean servers for bot activity, thanks, --Uziel302 (talk) 13:17, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Why not use Toolforge instead? Masum Reza☎ 06:24, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- User_talk:Masumrezarock100, I thought it is more for public tools or long term bots, my bot is one-off, I only need to upload the 500k forms I extracted from other resource. I don't care using both, I will try to apply to Toolforge, but would like to be exempted anyway. Uziel302 (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Why does the exempt need to be global? --Krd 18:13, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- I thought the block is global and I needed exempt from it, I can have it specific to my above needs. Uziel302 (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Local IPBE can override global blocks, but global IPBE can not override local blocks.--GZWDer (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- I thought the block is global and I needed exempt from it, I can have it specific to my above needs. Uziel302 (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Why does the exempt need to be global? --Krd 18:13, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- User_talk:Masumrezarock100, I thought it is more for public tools or long term bots, my bot is one-off, I only need to upload the 500k forms I extracted from other resource. I don't care using both, I will try to apply to Toolforge, but would like to be exempted anyway. Uziel302 (talk) 17:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for 港九自由嘻嘻嘻
- Global user: 港九自由嘻嘻嘻 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Occasionally I want to edit from China but it's impossible because of the firewall. Can you please grant me exception? Thanks, --港九自由嘻嘻嘻 (talk) 10:42, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- What did you mean by "occasionally"? Are you switching countries or something? Masum Reza☎ 10:54, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Shenzhen.--港九自由嘻嘻嘻 (talk) 16:30, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Requests for 2 Factor Auth tester permissions
Please be sure to follow the instructions below:
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2FA Tester for Jrork
- Global user: Jrork (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I have read Help:Two-factor_authentication and would like 2FA enabled because a. I use it everywhere I can and b. so 1Password Watchtower will quit bugging me about doing so, thanks, --Jrork (talk) 21:41, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
2FA Tester for DrVes
- Global user: DrVes (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I would like to increase the security of my account by enabling 2FA, thanks, --DrVes (talk) 19:07, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
- Have you read Help:Two-factor_authentication?--Shanmugamp7 (talk) 12:08, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
2FA Tester for Testerface3
- Global user: Testerface3 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I would like to enable 2FA for testing on this account. I work at the Wikimedia Foundation in QA and my name is Anthony Borba. I have read Help:Two-factor_authentication, thanks, --Testerface3 (talk) 18:26, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
2FA Tester for Nomisn98
- Global user: Nomisn98 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I would like to be able to enable 2FA for this account as I'm already using 2FA everywhere else where it's possible. I have read Help:Two-factor_authentication, thanks, --Nomisn98 (talk) 21:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
2FA Tester for tazkeung
- Global user: Tazkeung (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
To keep my account safe and avoid identity fraud, I would like to be able to use 2FA to do so.I have read the 2FA help page of course.Thanks, --Tazkeung (talk) 02:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
Requests for other global permissions
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IP BLOCK
Bonjour, pourquoi ne puis-je plus modifier les articles de Wikipedia ? --Caspien06 (talk) 17:42, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
- Analysant la situation je m'aperçois que j'utilise Avast Security line qui génère des IP aléatoires. Je viens de le débloquer temporairement et je constate que le phénomène de blocage par Wikipédia disparaît. Qu'en pensez-vous ?--Caspien06 (talk) 08:45, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Caspien06: S.V.P. faire un requête pour IPBE ici. Tu es bloqué parce que tu utilises un proxy pour éditer. Jon Kolbert (talk) 09:38, 3 November 2019 (UTC)
Global abuse filter helper for Nullzero
- Global user: Nullzero (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I just started working on a research project regarding correctness of abuse filters and the abuse filter language. My research has already discovered bugs in public filters and the filter language in the past week (1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14).
Being granted the role of global abuse filter helper would allow me to contribute and progress my research further. In particular:
- Fixing a bug or adding a feature could alter the semantics of existing filters in Wikimedia projects, including private filters to which I currently have no access. For that reason, the abusefilter-view-private right would be very helpful for me to make sure that any changes to the language will not break existing filters.
- Similarly, with the abusefilter-view-private right, I would be able to point out bugs in the private filters in addition to the public ones.
- Both abusefilter-view-private and abusefilter-log-private would allow me to obtain more data points to develop the research tool.
It is my hope that by the end of the project, I will produce an open-source tool to automate the (currently manual) bug finding process, and potentially integrate it back to the abuse filter extension.
Incidentally, I have been a sysop at Thai Wikipedia for 6 years, and contributed to various MediaWiki projects, including the abuse filter extension, several years ago.
Thanks, --Nullzero (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support I can vouch for the excellent job @Nullzero is doing for the AF parser. --Daimona Eaytoy (talk) 11:14, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Seems good candidate for the right. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:35, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support --Novak Watchmen (talk) 16:57, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support clear use case --DannyS712 (talk) 17:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Why not? Masum Reza☎ 02:18, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Keep it up! --Streetdeck (Talk) 11:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Clear need and lot of experience with the extension.– Ammarpad (talk) 14:15, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support per discussion.--Turkmen talk 06:56, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Clear need, plus I trust Daimona's judgement here. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 04:49, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trusted by contribution on thwp and sister projects.--Geonuch (talk) 14:00, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support per above -MrJaroslavik (talk) 16:40, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Trustworthy user doing valuable work with a proven need. I have no problem supporting this request. --TheSandDoctor Talk 06:31, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Valid need. Leaderboard (talk) 15:06, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Need well demonstrated by trusted user. ~riley (talk) 21:10, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support -- Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 08:50, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support Per all above. -- Несмир Кудилович (разговор) 12:30, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Support I completely agree; per all above. --Acamicamacaraca (talk) 16:48, 12 November 2019 (UTC
remove global OTRS member for DutchTom
- Global user: DutchTom (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Thanks, --Krd 12:59, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- Done.--HakanIST (talk) 13:59, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
add global OTRS member for DutchTina
- Global user: DutchTina (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Thanks, --Krd 18:34, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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