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Global rename for Nihonjoe
- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Nihonjoe (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 5 April 2022 00:53 UTC
I previously had global rename, but hadn't used it for a year so it was removed. I plan to be more involved in this now. In the years I previously had it (including when it was part of the English Wiki Bureaucrat role), I handled it well. Thanks! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:53, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Neutral Should be no concern, but his activity in global renaming is extremely low (50 renames from July 2015 to
September 2020September 2021). NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:09, 22 March 2022 (UTC)- @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: Please note all of these, too. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:25, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Those log entries are exactly what I was referring to. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:26, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- I was referring more to the logs before it became a global thing. After it became global, there often weren't any that needed doing when I'd check, so the number I did went down significantly. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Those log entries are exactly what I was referring to. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 01:26, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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I'm afraid I cannot take your renames as a bureaucrat, from 7+ years ago, into account. My !vote remains neutral, sorry. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 02:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- @NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh: Please note all of these, too. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:25, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. AlPaD (talk) 05:40, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Already been a renamer in the past, if they plan to be active again there is no problem for me, I just hope they will be more active than they have been in the past. Then, another ja-3 user can be very useful for us, so thanks for volunteering again. --Superpes15 (talk) 12:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 13:44, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support —MdsShakil (talk) 16:33, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Tartafs (talk) 17:09, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Activity before was poor but I think their explanation for it is reasonable. --Ferien (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support AGF for plan to return to activity, LGTM --DannyS712 (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -FASTILY 00:52, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for volunteering! — csc-1 01:12, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Jianhui67 talk★contribs 05:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support —Yahya (talk • contribs.) 08:27, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support There is no reason for concern. --Victor Trevor (talk) 09:04, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support – Ammarpad (talk) 10:50, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support 'crat on major wiki, no concerns. — xaosflux Talk 14:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Hope you will be more active. Good luck). --Mykola talk 14:44, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support —Svārtava (t/u) • 17:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --20041027 𝓽𝓪𝓽𝓼𝓾(talk) 10:34, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 12:02, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support —DARIO SEVERI (talk) 06:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Sotiale (talk) 11:54, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Minorax«¦talk¦» 12:06, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support ‐‐1997kB (talk) 14:00, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support – Ajraddatz (talk) 15:48, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --MeganB... …till the end 13:50, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- कन्हाई प्रसाद चौरसिया (talk) 12:58, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support No concern Thingofme (talk) 07:52, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support trusted user --Mtarch11 (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Cabayi (talk) 09:28, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -J. Ansari Talk 14:12, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support Was a renamer in the past so them coming back is pretty good and explanation is reasonable as Ferien said. Kaue (They/Them) (talk) 15:07, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Geonuch (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Alaa :)..! 10:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Vincent Vega msg? 21:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support...Hasan (talk) 10:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Global rename for Eta Carinae
- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: Eta Carinae (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 12 April 2022 12:44 UTC
Hi everyone. Due an invitation made by our fellow @Stanglavine:, I decide to open this request to become a global renamer. I've experience with advanced permissions such checkuser and oversight, as well being an ombudsman in 2019. I plan to help with rename request in my homewiki, and others too, when needed. Questions and any comments are welcome. Thanks everyone. --Eta Carinae (talk) 12:44, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Sysop on a large wiki; a small minus is that they only have 20 edits to pt:WP:RC at the time I checked. Off-topic, it seems that global right log entries got stuck with the previous username. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 13:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support We are trying to include more sysops pt-N on the rename team due to a constant backlog on our local queue. Eta Carinae is a trusted user with years of good service to our community in many roles, and he kindly accepted my invitation to apply here. stanglavine msg 17:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Why not? Sysop on a large wiki, and has a need for the right. Obrigada for volunteering :-) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 02:58, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support trusted user --Mtarch11 (talk) 08:16, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Per above --Superpes15 (talk) 09:15, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support - Cabayi (talk) 09:29, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support – no concerns. --Taggers (talk) 12:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for help. AlPaD (talk) 12:35, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support No concerns Kaue (They/Them) (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support There is no reason for concern. --Victor Trevor (talk) 18:41, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support No problems here. Thanks for volunteering :) --Ferien (talk) 21:36, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support -FASTILY 00:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Érico (talk) 02:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Jianhui67 talk★contribs 05:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support —MdsShakil (talk) 12:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Geonuch (talk) 14:57, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Alaa :)..! 10:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Vincent Vega msg? 21:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support per above...Hasan (talk) 10:17, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Global rename for HTPF
- Wiki: meta.wikimedia.org (list 'crats • bot policy • summary • 'crats rights)
- User: HTPF (talk • edits • logs • UserRights • activity • CentralAuth • email • verify 2FA)
- Not ending before 15 April 2022 20:13 UTC
I've been a wikipedist since 2004, with over 196,000 edits and logs, over 3,000 articles created. As Sysop since 2008, I have over 60,000 administrative actions. In all these years of activity, I gained experience in editing and administrative activities. I believe I am in a position to take on more of this activity. If accepted, I intend to work on Wikipedia-pt. Thanks in advance for the comments. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by HTPF (talk) 20:13, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Like above, with a side note that edit count has nearly nothing to do with global renaming. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:55, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. AlPaD (talk) 05:38, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Long-time Wikimedian with a great track of contributions. --Joalpe (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --HedestaD 14:47, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Requests for global IP block exemption
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Global IP block exempt for Joytz
- Global user: Joytz (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
I'm in China and need proxy to accelerate access to Wikipedia for educational purposes. Info: "Your current IP address is 172.104.127.197 and the block ID is #361743". I'm requesting for global IP block exemption permission., thanks, --Joytz (talk) 04:04, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Joytz: If you want to the edit Chinese Wikipedia, please follow the instruction on this page; if you want to edit the English Wikipedia, please read this section and send an email. Global IP block exemption permission does not allow you to edit either two sites. Stang 16:26, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
- I thought you need a global IP block exemption first and then you can request local IP block exemption? Joytz (talk) 03:37, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- Also, should I be asking for this in case I need to edit in the future but cannot, or should I ask this only when there is something I want to edit now? Joytz (talk) 03:39, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
- No, global IPBE is not a prerequisite for local IPBE. You could request for now if you though it is useful even in the future, but at least you need to clarify which project(s) you intended to edit. Stang 01:49, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Joytz A ping? Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:54, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- No, global IPBE is not a prerequisite for local IPBE. You could request for now if you though it is useful even in the future, but at least you need to clarify which project(s) you intended to edit. Stang 01:49, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
{{notdone}} No response.-- Amanda (she/her) 23:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
Global IP block exempt for Love Love Lovelove123
- Global user: Love Love Lovelove123 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
<Because I love the editing of TVB dramas in Hong Kong TVB, I need to edit the content of this item through this website [1], so I need to unblock before editing Thanks Why is my ip blocked and what have I done? Please unblock me thank you, my ip207.248.207.108I'm requesting for global IP block exemption permission., thanks>, thanks, --Love Love Lovelove123 (talk) 09:04, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
- Your IP address is not globally blocked. Ruslik (talk) 20:21, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Tks4Fish: who has now blocked it. -- Amanda (she/her) 16:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Block has expired, so I don't see a need for GIPBE. —Thanks for the fish! talk•contrib (he/him) 19:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Wow that was unexpected that it expired in that time. Switching to Not done. -- Amanda (she/her) 20:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Block has expired, so I don't see a need for GIPBE. —Thanks for the fish! talk•contrib (he/him) 19:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Remove global IP block exempt for Pessimist2006
- Global user: Pessimist2006 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
Account is locked. AlPaD (talk) 12:50, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I will let others decide whether to act, but I would let the flag stay, in case Pessimist2006's situation hopefully changes he will need it. --Base (talk) 13:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Seems best - appears to be an evolving situation and this can't be used when they can't log on anyway. If it is say a year and still locked, revist. — xaosflux Talk 15:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note that Special:GlobalUsers/global-ipblock-exempt currently lists two other locked accounts, ST680 (talk · contribs) and ParkHider (talk · contribs). ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:35, 1 April 2022 (UTC)- @1234qwer1234qwer4: Hello, ST680 (talk · contribs) is compromised. AlPaD (talk) 11:55, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note that Special:GlobalUsers/global-ipblock-exempt currently lists two other locked accounts, ST680 (talk · contribs) and ParkHider (talk · contribs). ~~~~
- Seems best - appears to be an evolving situation and this can't be used when they can't log on anyway. If it is say a year and still locked, revist. — xaosflux Talk 15:00, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Not done per Base. This lock is meant as a temporary measure and does not indicate Pessimist2006 is not trusted with GIPBE anymore. mentioned above, a global lock prevents an account from logging in, --Martin Urbanec (talk) 13:02, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Requests for 2 Factor Auth tester permissions
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2FA Tester for Curbon7
- Global user: Curbon7 (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
As I have some advanced perms on English Wikipedia and my account had been compromised in the past, it was highly recommended to me that I apply for 2FA. I have read the help page. Curbon7 (talk) 18:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Requests for other global permissions
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global-interface-editor and abusefilter-maintainer for billinghurst (2022)
- Global user: billinghurst (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Global Interface editor: Not ending before 5 April 2022 05:13 UTC
- Abusefilter-maintainer: Not ending before 7 April 2022 05:13 UTC
Ugh, these quietly expiring rights. Similarly to Xaosflux, here for a third successive time for the rights to view local filters results at local wikis and to support their maintenance.
- previous global rights
- 2020 grant of Abuse filter maintainer rights (first allocation of newly created right)
- 2020 global-interface-editor rights
- 2021 grant of rights (noting I amalgamated two annual rights discussions into one renewal process)
My need is no different from previous requests, my volunteerism continues. There have been no other status changes in my roles as an advanced rights holder at wikis. There has been no particular change in community requirements or security that says that the tasks that I do are now redundant. Rights have been used in the past 12 months to support wikis to build and maintain their local abuse filters and their local js/css pages. — billinghurst sDrewth 05:13, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Long-term trusted contributor. Jianhui67 talk★contribs 05:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
{{S}}extending for a year. No problems here. --Ferien (talk) 06:24, 31 March 2022 (UTC)- Per CM, 2[1234qwer]4 and Stang I am withdrawing my support. This issue hasn't just been on Wikidata and zhwiki. This has also been an issue on simplewiki (as can be seen here) - this wasn't a situation where there was loads of vandalism and it was an emergency, this was just one account who vandalised two or three times. Protection wouldn't have been used even from a local sysop, and we have a strict protection policy on simplewiki. There was no checking with users on IRC either unlike the other situations. There was another protection on simplewiki where you noticed your mistake and removed the protection a minute after but this is clearly quite a large problem, going into multiple wikis and protecting pages likely without even checking local guidelines. These rights aren't even supposed to be used in an emergency - using your tools for something they're not meant for is bad enough, breaking local policy is worse. While I'm sure you'd still make a good abuse filter maintainer and global interface editor, I think these issues make you a net negative with these tools and so I am opposing. --Ferien (talk) 15:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support – trusted user and has a need for it. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs) 06:27, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Minorax«¦talk¦» 10:30, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Sotiale (talk) 10:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for your work --Superpes15 (talk) 10:36, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- I'm also a bit concerned with out-of-purpose use of a tool - and I'm referring not in this specific case but in general. Policies should be respected and, in the event of an emergency and without active local admins, a steward is first of all asked to protect (policies allow stewards to intervene during an emergency on a non-GS wiki and, seeing the log, there was at least an active steward at the time). Also not everyone may be aware that it was discussed on IRC, especially since the decision was probably made after talking with non-admin/steward users on IRC. So it would have been better to write "Repeated vandalism - discussed on IRC and no local sysop and steward active". I'm still in favor of both flags because it has happened sporadically and given Billinghurst's experience and quality of work, but I notice that it isn't the first time it has happened (as pointed out by Camouflaged Mirage). The flags should only be used for the purpose for which they were assigned! I, as an ombuds, have never made a CU for vandalism reasons, it's something not foreseen by the policy (and even if it's not explicitly forbidden it doesn't mean that it can be do), although technically I could have done it. Superpes15 (talk) 10:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support – no issues here. Hulged (talk) 10:48, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support Trusted user. --Victor Trevor (talk) 10:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
{{s}}— xaosflux Talk 10:55, 31 March 2022 (UTC)- Regarding 1234's oppose, I'm going to assume this was some sort of one-off - wikidatawiki used to be part of the GS set where this could have be more natural, though it had opted out at that point. I'm not seeing any specific opposition or complaint raised by that community at the time. — xaosflux Talk 14:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- On hold pending responses in other sections. A bit concerned that GIE is being used as some sort of "Global Sysop Plus" to extend xwiki efforts in to projects that have available local functionaries, I don't see anything malicious going on - but am worried about creating friction with the local governance model. — xaosflux Talk 15:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support for AFM as no concerns have been identified there. — xaosflux Talk 12:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Weak oppose for GIE due to multiple uses outside the expectations that this group is designed as a special technical support role, not for routine administration tasks for non-GS wiki's. I could see changing this if the requester revisits some of these concerns and commits to limiting future use to these expectations as they otherwise are making constructive use of it. — xaosflux Talk 12:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Regarding 1234's oppose, I'm going to assume this was some sort of one-off - wikidatawiki used to be part of the GS set where this could have be more natural, though it had opted out at that point. I'm not seeing any specific opposition or complaint raised by that community at the time. — xaosflux Talk 14:18, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support —MdsShakil (talk) 12:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support Per above! AlPaD (talk) 12:52, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. Sgd. —Hasley 13:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Geonuch (talk) 15:00, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
- Support. —— Eric Liu(Talk) 15:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
{{S}} * Pppery * it has begun 22:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)- Oppose I have been linked to [2]. Protecting content pages should not be in scope of GIE, and it certainly isn't part of the "local js/css pages" maintenance stated in the nomination (far from any kind of emergency either). Not impressed by such sneaky misuse of tools, without even informing local community as far as I can tell from your contributions around that time. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 09:17, 1 April 2022 (UTC)- Nothing sneaky about it, and I reject that use of a loaded word, you just need to ask. [Anyway, what do I have to need to be sneaky about in that regard.] I have no conflict of interest, and it this is part of xwiki vandalism response. I discussed it at the time, think it was in the #wikidata channel. You should also note the regular times that I request protection for numbers of pages, or alerted to vandalism, at WD. Very occasionally with that right I can put a short block in place and inform local admins at a range of wikis—it isn't very often. And I will admit that I didn't give it a lot of attention at the time, so no, I don't have good records for doing it, so in that regard I will admit casualness nor giving it much concern. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please also note the history of the files. And the reports User:COIBot/XWiki/tre.it, User:COIBot/XWiki/wind.it and there are another one or two, which I cannot remember at the moment. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- At the time, were you aware that Wikidata was no longer a GS wiki? --Rschen7754 02:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Billinghurst Same question about the zhwiki action noted below, are you missing some GS overlap - or just think that GIE's should perform general protection wherever it could be useful for antivandalism? — xaosflux Talk 10:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- At the time, were you aware that Wikidata was no longer a GS wiki? --Rschen7754 02:45, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- If you discussed it on IRC and there were local admins online, I'm not sure why they couldn't have handled it themselves. If there were none, well, I'm not sure how much authority that discussion would have had. The links to indefinite and one-year protections of your talk page shared by Rschen7754 below show that your actions have indeed not been limited to short blocks, and your statement above makes this seem even more concerning to me than it already did. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:00, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Please also note the history of the files. And the reports User:COIBot/XWiki/tre.it, User:COIBot/XWiki/wind.it and there are another one or two, which I cannot remember at the moment. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:26, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Nothing sneaky about it, and I reject that use of a loaded word, you just need to ask. [Anyway, what do I have to need to be sneaky about in that regard.] I have no conflict of interest, and it this is part of xwiki vandalism response. I discussed it at the time, think it was in the #wikidata channel. You should also note the regular times that I request protection for numbers of pages, or alerted to vandalism, at WD. Very occasionally with that right I can put a short block in place and inform local admins at a range of wikis—it isn't very often. And I will admit that I didn't give it a lot of attention at the time, so no, I don't have good records for doing it, so in that regard I will admit casualness nor giving it much concern. — billinghurst sDrewth 00:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --mirinano (talk) 14:04, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support —Svārtava (t/u) • 14:53, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per 1234qwer1234qwer4 * Pppery * it has begun 21:09, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support abuse filter maintainer, no issues. Support global interface editor, while the rights should not be used for things out of scope of the user group, incident does not appear to have been malicious, user claims to have discussed it at the time, and does not appear to be a frequent issue. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:29, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support -No Concerm. Aviram NoSurprisesPlease 03:40, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Both. As noted in my 2020 support, please try to use protection more sparingly. Zhwp is clearly not a GS wiki and such actions seems out of scope. Thank you for your other efforts and volunteering. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 08:54, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose for GIE, sorry. Since you have Hoo man's active sysop.js installed, I think it is pretty clear for you to distinguish if a site is gswiki or not. Although protection action - part of fighting against x-wiki abuse- is in good faith, it is indeed a misuse of GIE's permission. Similar to steward access, "[stewards] typically will not use their access unless there is an emergency", and cases listed above failed to meet the criteria of "emergency" in my view. Stang 13:51, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose for GIE. Would reconsider if the ability to protect pages was removed from the set (which IMO it should be). I see another content page protection on fawiki, and on frwiki and semi-protecting one's own talk page on idwiki, enwikivoyage before it became GS, eswiki, ruwiki, bswiki, [3], [4], [5]. --Rschen7754 15:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- IMO the ability to protect pages is useful for GIE in situations like this (though in this specific case the user had sysadmin privileges), and the permission requires enough trust to believe a user that they will not misuse it – else it should be removed. (Different discussion though.) ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2022 (UTC)- Note that the human-readable summary of the right is "Change protection settings and edit cascade-protected pages" (emphasis mine). I'm not sure if MediaWiki indeed requires the
protect
right for editing cascade-protected pages, but if it does, it certainly shouldn't be removed (at least not until the right is split into protecting and something likeeditcascadeprotected
). Martin Urbanec (talk) 16:03, 2 April 2022 (UTC)- Appears this is being discussed in phab:T71607. --Rschen7754 18:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note that the human-readable summary of the right is "Change protection settings and edit cascade-protected pages" (emphasis mine). I'm not sure if MediaWiki indeed requires the
- IMO the ability to protect pages is useful for GIE in situations like this (though in this specific case the user had sysadmin privileges), and the permission requires enough trust to believe a user that they will not misuse it – else it should be removed. (Different discussion though.) ~~~~
- Support per DannyS712. The incident(s) identified above appear to be quite minor and could be easily resolved by creating an opt out WikiSet for GIE. Dmehus (talk) 18:31, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Note that "Projects may not opt out" Superpes15 (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- To be quite honest, I think that'd be worth an RfC to allow projects to opt out of
global-interface-editor
as there's no real need to not allow that. We have stewards, around which wikis cannot opt out. Dmehus (talk) 02:06, 3 April 2022 (UTC)- This flag is often used by WMF so I don't think an opt-out will be useful Superpes15 (talk) 09:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- To be quite honest, I think that'd be worth an RfC to allow projects to opt out of
- Note that "Projects may not opt out" Superpes15 (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support for both rights, and I looked carefully at the comments regarding GIE; this is despite some of the concerns being valid. Personally, I do not see an issue using GIE out of policy where this is sufficiently justified; however I have to agree with Ferien that neither the simple.wiki case nor protecting your own talk pages come under that category. But should we be opposing someone just for minor errors like this, especially when this is the first time the issue has come up? In my opinion, no; especially since the net effect of these errors are minor at worst. I would just ask that the user be careful with this in the future; as can be seen, arguments such as "I will admit casualness nor giving it much concern" won't work with this community. This user has been using that right for legitimate purposes after all. Leaderboard (talk) 18:43, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. Out of process page protections are not okay. -FASTILY 08:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Fastily, I had thought that the issue was merely editing protected pages on GS-opted out wikis. Do GIEs have the ability to protect or unprotect pages? If so, I personally think this needs a wider discussion, as page protection actions should be restricted local administrators and, secondarily, to stewards (all wikis) and Global Sysops (wikis that have not opted out). Nevertheless, I wouldn't want to not renew Billinghurst's GIE over the above instance(s). I think Billinghurst would take this as a clear learning opportunity to make the necessary corrections in approach and, if it continued this year, then I doubt the community would support renewal next year. Dmehus (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Dmehus the current technical layout has one permission,
(protect)
which empowers users to both edit cascade-protected pages (arguably within the normal remit of GIE's) and to set/unset protection levels. phab:T71607 has been open for about 5 years requesting this be split just as editproected was split. — xaosflux Talk 18:43, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- @Dmehus the current technical layout has one permission,
- Fastily, I had thought that the issue was merely editing protected pages on GS-opted out wikis. Do GIEs have the ability to protect or unprotect pages? If so, I personally think this needs a wider discussion, as page protection actions should be restricted local administrators and, secondarily, to stewards (all wikis) and Global Sysops (wikis that have not opted out). Nevertheless, I wouldn't want to not renew Billinghurst's GIE over the above instance(s). I think Billinghurst would take this as a clear learning opportunity to make the necessary corrections in approach and, if it continued this year, then I doubt the community would support renewal next year. Dmehus (talk) 17:40, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Trusted user. Ruy (talk) 17:48, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Global editinterface and deleter for Pathoschild (renewal)
- Global user: Pathoschild (edits (alt) • CA • global groups • crossactivity • verify 2FA)
- Discussion: see list of previous discussions & renewals
- Not ending before 7 April 2022 22:00 UTC
Hi! I use the global editinterface and deleter permissions to run the Synchbot service and maintain my scripts crosswiki (mostly the former now). I'm not active in editing anymore, but I've been running Synchbot regularly each month since 2008. (This month's run is paused due to the permissions expiring.) Stewards have said they'd rather not take over Synchbot, so I'd like to continue this work. —Pathoschild 22:00, 02 April 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support With many thanks for all your work --Superpes15 (talk) 22:12, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support --Zabe (talk) 22:13, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support —MdsShakil (talk) 22:16, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Two years for GIE, indef for GD. NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh 22:41, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support! ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 23:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC) - Support for two years for GIE and indefinite for global-deleter, per Nguoi. Dmehus (talk) 02:07, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thank you for volunteering. --Victor Trevor (talk) 07:44, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support -FASTILY 08:00, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Easy Support. 2 years GIE and indefinite GD. --Ferien (talk) 09:49, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support.Hasan (talk) 10:20, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Strong support Indefinite Rights. AlPaD (talk) 11:41, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support but only up to 2 years - as I've said on this renewal almost every time this is a fragile process solely dependent on one volunteer and alternatives should be encouraged. — xaosflux Talk 12:50, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
- Support Thanks for volunteering and the work you had put in. Camouflaged Mirage (talk) 12:59, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
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