Talk:Small Wiki Monitoring Team/Archive 3

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Please help us at en.wikiquote.org

Please help us at en.wikiquote.org. We don't always have active vandal fighters around, and the project is beset by sockers, such as Dantherocker1 (talk · contribs) and q:User:Bubbaloo. -- Cirt (talk) 23:30, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Here, please see Steward_requests/Checkuser#Heecfyahoo.ca.40en.wikiquote, look at the contribs, we need help fixing all the vandalism. -- Cirt (talk) 23:31, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Done. Apologies for forgetting that I could have marked those as bot edits. Ajraddatz (Talk) 23:45, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
Cirt, is it more the malicious editing or are you also getting url spam. If the latter, I will talk to Beetstra to see if we can get better monitoring or highlighting of that spam through COIBot. billinghurst sDrewth 00:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Both, please see our admin board, q:Wikiquote:AN. -- Cirt (talk) 02:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Maybe a bit late but en.wikiquote is now monitored by the SWMT. Cheers, --Glaisher [talk] 12:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Non-IRC ways to help?

Are there ways to help without constantly hanging out in IRC? I would love to help out, but I can't always be hanging out in IRC, and there are likely others who are the same. Perhaps something like Special:RecentChanges, but instead a listing of recent potential spam changes (perhaps updated by the same bots which throw info into IRC). I've looked through the tools, but I can't see anything there which seems to be like this. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 06:18, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, have a look at User:COIBot/Local and User:COIBot/XWiki, to get most effectiveness look to turn the assisting gadget. billinghurst sDrewth 07:24, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Though as an addendum, it works better in conjunction with IRC for some active searching and checking tools where you are looking at building cases for sneaky spammers here to play, not just slam and bam. If you are looking for something more immediate for the servers, watching the history of the page is very useful as it updates regularly. You can also get the server to run updated checks by use of User:COIBot/Poke so you don't have to be in IRC. I will admit that the documentation on how to assist is slim. billinghurst sDrewth 10:17, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Perhaps I can update the documentation a bit once I get the hang of things. I agree it's currently somewhat marginal in many ways. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:28, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
You can also use IRC without the need for a client, through the webchat. Just join the cvn-sw channel to monitor for vandalism :) Ajraddatz (Talk) 14:40, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the info! ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 07:44, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I also recommend searching on Google for possible vandalism/spam phrases and adding "wikimedia" site:.org and tagging those pages for deletion, but this can get a bit tedious. There must be some other non-IRC ways to help. Please list them below. πr2 (tc) 23:55, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

πr2 (tc) 00:07, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Minor fixes to the above list. πr2 (t • c) 03:09, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Odd interwiki links on ky: main page

Sometimes when navigating to the main page of the Kyrgyz Wikipedia the "In Other Languages" links point not to other Wikipedias' main pages, but to their Featured Picture pages. At other times the inter-language links display fine. After a little tinkering, I have a hunch that logging in and logging out has something to do with it (the problem has so far only occurred for me when logged out, although it did not re-appear after logging in and logging back out again). It was a Win XP computer and the problem occurred (at least under certain conditions) both in IE 8 and FF 9. It Is Me Here t / c 20:36, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Works for me after I cleared the pages cache (action=purge), so Yes check.svg Done - Hoo man (talk) 23:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
No obvious changes taking place within the file, looked okay to me securely logged in with FF, and not logged in with Chrome. ky:Template:Интервики_башбаракта is unchanged and fairly standard in importation. I would agree with Hoo man that it may have been some caching artefact. On that matter, the interwikis for their main page look pretty light on, I might drop them a note for an expansion. billinghurst sDrewth 00:12, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Suggestions for monitoring 1.19 rollout?

I was looking for a way to monitor non-English village pumps for problem reports. Is there a way the SWMT could help in this? -- MarkAHershberger(talk) 22:29, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Not really, especially with most problem reports coming in from the larger wikis. We don't have any tools to accommodate something like this well. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:30, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
I was mostly worried smaller wikis, not German and Franch and the like. But thanks anyway. --MarkAHershberger(talk) 02:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

How to join?

SWMT How to submit claims? -- Velimir Ivanovic talk 07:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

"claims"? I don't know what you want to claim, but you can add your name to the list and get busy. Seb az86556 (talk) 09:45, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
The member list is at Template:SWMT-Members, you can just add yourself, it really doesn't mean anything :) Generally, one the most used avenues of Small Wiki Monitoring are the irc channel #cvn-sw and its sister channel #cvn-newpages on freenode. Snowolf How can I help? 09:49, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Global Deletion Process

Is there scope to develop a global deletion process for non-notable articles present on several small wikis ? The deletion process would only apply for wikis on the SWMT list. Amqui (talk) 20:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

Currently? Not that I know of. But creating this kind of process would be an interesting RfC. I'm not sure whether I'd support this or not. Currently, you can request cross-wiki deletions on SRM, but for borderline cases (not obviously deletable), you (I'm not sure about this) probably have to propose it on a wiki-by-wiki basis. This reminds me of the crosswiki IMAGE&POESIA pages. The page was deleted as non-notable on enwiki but still exists on small wikis (see the interwikis on cr:ᒪᓯᓂᐸᔨᐃᐧᐣ_ᐁᑲᐧ_ᒪᓯᓇᐦᐃᑲᐣ). πr2 (tc) 02:25, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Bot feature requests

I just created three bugs for frequently noted nuisances of the bots [1] [2] [3]. --MF-W 20:26, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Consolidated request for deletion's page

Please see Talk:Global sysops#Consolidated request for deletion page. Thanks, Amqui (talk) 06:49, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

And this is now done. πr2 (tc) 18:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Makecat

Makecat just made this edit on nl.wiktionary and I would like to know more about wht is going on. However, his accounts talk page is locked for editing so that I cannot. Can one of you at least communicate with us? Jcwf (talk) 02:50, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at User:Mathonius/Reports/Nothing to say about me really. --Rschen7754 03:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

User:Si Gam on Aceh Wikipedia

Greetings Everyone,

First of all, I would like to thank every one of you for your countless time and effort in counteracting vandalism on all the interwiki editions of Wikipedia regardless whether the wikipedia edition is large or small. I am very Grateful and will always remember your charitable works.


Today I had left a comment notifying the wikimedia community of the actions of User:Si Gam of Aceh wikipedia who continues to delete the article "Geurija Isa Jatoë" (Aceh translation of True Jesus Church article) on Aceh wikipedia. The reason he gave was "there are mistakes".

As we all know, any minor trivial mistakes can still be corrected later on by other users. In the past, User:Hercule and User:Juhko helped revert any blankings/deletions by User:Si Gam Aceh by restoring the article and commenting on it. However both those users are not currently patrolling Aceh Wikipedia so the recent deletion of the article by User:Si Gam went unnoticed.

I do not want a "Law of the Jungle" situation to prevail on ace.wikipedia.org and hence I humbly entreat the help of you folks in preventing User:Si Gam from blanking and/or deleting the article "Geurija Isa Jatoë" on Aceh Wikipedia. --Jose77 (talk) 05:19, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

The article contains many mistakes. And since November 30, 2008, no one improve it. And FYI, we have article about church (ace:Geurija), Christianity (ace:Kristen) and Judaism (ace:Yahudi). So the accusation is baseless. -- Si Gam (talk) 05:27, 4 March 2013 (UTC)


Please unblock the IP 143.107.79.204

That IP is from University from São Paulo. We are a group of about 60 person working in the laboratory of informatics. Its action is impeding our work activity in the project Wikinativa. (http://pt.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikinativa).

Today morning we have the sabe problem (with other group of 60 studentes)... We could do something using anonimous proxy.

A student and I have trying to contact the responsable of this action - the user [[4]] -, but it was unsuccessful.

Better check before to block.

Thanks,

--143.107.58.135 01:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

I have unblocked the IP. --MF-W 01:11, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

thanks!--143.107.58.100 13:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)


Please do not block the IP 143.107.79.204 on Tuesdays

On Tuesdays we do collective editions from the laboratory of the university (USP) using the same IP. These activities will occur until the month of June.

Thank you for your understanding!:) --143.107.58.100 13:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

About automatic spam/accounts creation in Asturian Wikipedia

First things first, a huge thank you for your help with spammers in ast-wiki. Your help is really appreciated! My best guess with our problem is that our AbuseFilter and/or Spam-blacklist are too weak (or non existent) to succesfully stop automatic account creation and spam. Could you, please, have a look and put in place some extra generic filters if necessary? Until our bureaucrat returns from a well deserved holidays I can't do it myself.

Also, it could be worth investigate what impact would have for Wikimedia sites to have hundreds of strange accounts in ast-wiki when SUL comes in place in August. All the best. --Oriciu (talk) 00:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I have created two abusefilters for now — one for keeping track of new article creations that contain external links, it currently just asks for a confirmation from the user if he is sure that he wants to create the article. Maybe the spambots can't handle that, and that's sufficient, otherwise the filter can be set to forbid the action); and one for specific spam wordings based on a filter here from Meta; this one is set to forbid the action. I will of course check these filters for hits. Unfortunately Asturian Wikipedia is currently a favourite target of spammers. There will be no specific issues with SUL, because all new accounts nowadays get a SUL account already. --MF-W 17:22, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Mason Wyatt

The user Mason Wyatt has been creating nearly identical articles across different language Wikipedias, apparently with the goal of getting article-count milestones announced at Wikimedia News (recently he conveniently announced the milestones himself). Unfortunately, the articles are always copies from a different language Wikipedia (Min Nan, as it turns out) and are only sub-stubs, besides. ("The food here is terrible." "Yes, and such small portions!") See this exchange (at a third party's talk page) about the problem when I first encountered it, and (for more context) this recent warning I have left on his talk page here and at the Min Nan Wikipedia, which is where the original copies of the articles have been coming from (e.g., chr:A is from zh-min-nan:A). He first created his account at the Romanian Wikipedia (see the first link in this comment), perhaps in response to getting some of his anon edits deleted at the Aromanian Wikipedia (and maybe others). Many of his edits at the English Wikipedia look like test edits (adding and immediately removing the same content). He has also edited the Simple English Wikipedia quite a bit, including copy-and-paste jobs from the English Wikipedia that have all been deleted. I'd appreciate it if someone else (preferably a cross-wiki admin/steward who could decide whether a block is in order) could check the rest of his edits to see if anything else needs to be deleted or reverted. Thanks. - dcljr (talk) 04:44, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

This is Decker. I locked the account and deleted the nonsensical pages. --MF-W 15:32, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Pashto Wiktionary

I guess this isn't exactly what this group was formed to handle, but it's close — and the only other places I could think to post this were at the English Wiktionary and the English Wikipedia, neither of which would probably welcome a long message about this. (Not knowing how to read Pashto, I couldn't even figure out where to post about this at the Pashto Wikipedia.)

For about 10 months now, the Pashto Wiktionary has been steadily growing from below 1,000 entries to over 21,500 today. Problem is, the majority of the entries seem to be written as if it's a big "Pashto-to-X" dictionary, instead of an "X-to-Pashto" dictionary, as Wiktionaries are supposed to be.

By way of an example, consider the most recently created entry, as I type this: "دوګړه". The page contains a header that apparently stands for "English" followed by the definition "N small speck tinny the ward دوکړ is used to emphasis smallness". So, instead of having the (presumably) Pashto word defined in Pashto, it merely lists an English translation under the "English" header. The non-Pashto entries are similarly messed up: the "exit" entry, for example, seems to contain a Pashto definition/translation under the header "پښتو" ("Pashto"), instead of under a header that's the Pashto word for "English". The wiki also contains a large number of Cyrillic entries (for example, "писать"), the vast majority of which are missing definitions entirely, but many of which have "English" and "Pashto" headers, presumably waiting for translations into those languages. This is not how Wiktionaries are supposed to be formatted.

Back in October 2012, I cautioned the three most active editors that the definitions there should be written in Pashto. The first two responded that the Pashto definitions would be added "later". When I went back in July 2013, I asked the wiki's sole admin why English definitions were being added and got no reply (even though he/she has made hundreds of edits since then). Another user left a message about same issue 3 weeks later and also (to my knowledge) has gotten no reply. (Just recently, a new active user has shown up creating exactly the same kind of entries, which kinda makes me suspect this is the same user creating multiple accounts for some reason. But I digress.)

I'm going to point to this comment from a couple of other Wikimedia wikis to try to get some Pashto editors to help "fix" the wiki, but perhaps a cross-wiki admin from this Team can look into this and see if more radical steps might need to be taken (obviously, I would recommend simply talking to the editors first, but what I've done of that so far hasn't seemed to help very much). - dcljr (talk) 11:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

This is to notify that I am aware of this issue, what we are doing we are adding all the Pashto terms and expressions that are very important with its translation in English which is widely used. Afterwards we have a plan to add their Pashto meanings and examples. We will also add the words and expressions of other languages with their Pashto meanings. So there is no need of being worried for the project. If there is a universal admin who can transfer the Pashto terms and expressions to the English Wiktionary with their English meaning then there will not be the need to have the English meanings of the Pashto words and expressions in Pashto Wiktionary. But still there will be the need of the definitions in the original language, Pashto. --احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل (talk) 20:08, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure you understand what the problem is. The information you're adding can be kept in the wiki if you would just format the entries correctly from the beginning. (Why add the information in the wrong way the first time around, and then correct it later?) Each section heading ("== ... ==", "header" for short) in an entry should identify a language in which the headword (the page title) has a meaning (not simply a translation, since any word in any language can be translated into any other language, but not all words [strings of characters] carry an inherent meaning in every language). The entry "bakery", for example, should have a single header, "انگرېزي" (assuming that's the correct word for the English language), not the word for "Pashto", since the word "bakery" (I'm pretty sure) only has a meaning in English. Note how the French, German, and Spanish Wiktionaries do it, for example ("Anglais", "Englisch", and "Inglés" all mean "English"). Now consider an entry like "پلټونکى", which has 5 different headers. Is that really a word in 5 different languages or is it a word in one language translated into 4 others? Other Wiktionaries allow multiple language headers only when the word actually has a meaning in each of the languages; see, for example, "put" in the English, German, and French Wiktionaries. The English and German Wiktionaries have special sections ("Translations" and "Übersetzungen", respectively) in which they translate each of the meanings into other languages. (French also does translations, in a section called "Traductions", but it's not present in the "put" entry.) Others can tell me if I'm wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure every Wiktionary in every language is supposed to adhere to this basic system (language-name section headings only for languages in which the words carry meaning). - dcljr (talk) 01:24, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
ok now i got your point. From now on we will try to work on this issue but If you could help me with making a translation part where we can enter the different translations of a term or expression as well, I mean if you could build a template with show/hide options where the translations of a term is written in different languages. your help in this regard will be highly appreciated.--احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
Since no one else has chimed in here, I'd like to move any further discussion of this to wikt:ps:User talk:احمد-نجيب-بياباني-ابراهيمخېل#Cleanup. - dcljr (talk) 08:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Antivandal bot

Has anyone seriously considered operating a version of ClueBot or a similar anti-vandalism bot on small wikis? Obviously, it would only be used on small (GS) wikis, and if used, permission should be asked first on a wiki-by-wiki basis, with the possibility to completely opt out at any time. It would only judge obviously revertable edits, such as those with repeated letters, and ignore any questionable edits with seemingly valid content. Bad idea? PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:20, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, but one that would be very hard to implement. Getting approval from the various affected communities would take forever. Ajraddatz (Talk) 21:58, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

toollabs:pirsquared/swmtrc

This is a mirror of the IRC channel. PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:40, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Wow. Is there any way to get rid of the big tools graphic in the background? Ajraddatz (Talk) 21:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz: Fixed. I forgot to test it on Gecko and other browsers, and only tested on Webkit. PiRSquared17 (talk) 02:39, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Yay. Fantastic work :D Ajraddatz (Talk) 18:36, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
@Ajraddatz: Any tool requests? Now that I have an account I want to do something with it... PiRSquared17 (talk) 18:24, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is on labs already, but someone had a tool for finding a page across all wikis. Example, you'd type in "Cake" and it would link you to all cake pages xwiki, and the last person who edited it. Good for finding spam pages and stuff. Also really good for seeing if someone tried to contact you on some small project and an email wasn't sent. Ajraddatz (Talk) 02:43, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Well, I just went through all existing tools and didn't see anything exactly like that. I think User:Hoo man is going to move his Toolserver tools to Tool Labs, but I don't know when. If not, I can probably just use the source or write a clone. PiRSquared17 (talk) 03:30, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Great tool, but I have one suggestion: sometimes it lists edits to wikis that are in a script other than Latin (Greek, Devanagari, etc.) as "possible gibberish". Is there anything you can do to fix this? --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 04:00, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
The tool is actually just getting the data from IRC (Internet Relay Chat), even the coloring. The bots (RyuBot-x) are run by User:Hosiryuhosi, and User:Krinkle is the author of the bot code. I suggest you ask Krinkle about the "Possible gibberish?". If you really want to see the channel, join #cvn-swconnect. I made a separate Tool Labs version for three reasons: 1) Some people don't want to join the IRC channel, essentially a chat room filled with bots and other users. 2) By default, webchat (see "connect" link to the left) makes your IP public, so this is an alternative to really privacy-sensitive people. 3) I wanted to test Tool Labs, before I write more tools. If you do decide to join #cvn-sw, you'll see that my tool has the nickname "testxyz". I hope this answers your questions. Good luck on scowiki. :) PiRSquared17 (talk) 04:11, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I'll ask him about that. Thank you! --AmaryllisGardener (talk) 14:30, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
  • @PiRSquared17: (just wondering) testxyz is at the meta cvn channel too. Is there any specific purpose? --Glaisher [talk] 17:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
    Not really any specific reason, and it isn't logging it at all, if that's what you mean. I can remove it if you want. PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
    I don't see any point in removing it either then. ;) --Glaisher [talk] 17:48, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

VisualEditor

Hello, everyone. I thought you might like to hear a bit more detail about the VisualEditor rollouts, since the next couple of months will provide it to users at about 40% of the Wikipedias, most of them on the smaller side. mw:VisualEditor/Rollouts has the current list of affected projects, with the dates. When VisualEditor is enabled for all users, people will have the option to use VisualEditor ("Edit") or to use the current wikitext editor ("Edit source"). If you haven't tried out VisualEditor, please see mw:Help:VisualEditor/FAQ for more information about it.

The next batch will be done on Monday, December 2, 2013. After that, there will be another group in January, but the date hasn't been settled yet.

What you might expect when monitoring:

  • In our experience so far, uptake rates vary widely. In some communities, it's barely used at all, and in others, more than a quarter of registered editors and more than half of IPs use it.
  • If you're willing and able, please report any problems you see in bugzilla under the "VisualEditor" product. If you would prefer not, please explain the issue you found on the central feedback page at mediawiki.org.
  • Serious problems affecting large numbers of pages can be reported in e-mail directly James Forrester, the Product Manager, at jforrester@wikimedia.org for immediate attention, or to the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor, where there's usually a dev who can deal with the problems.

If you can translate:

  • To translate the user interface, start by creating an account at TranslateWiki. Once your account request is approved, all you need to do is select your language from this list. This will give you a list of individual lines and paragraphs. The English original will be on one side, with the option to “edit” on the other. Pressing "edit" will open an edit window where you can work.
  • The User Guide at Mediawiki.org is another important document. To translate this, simply go to the MediaWiki.org page, and select "translate this page". Your language should be available from the drop-down menu on the right. Once the translation is done, just copy it over to a suitably named page at the target project.

If you want to help with translations and would like to talk about how, please leave a message for mw:User:PEarley (WMF).

And, as usual, if you need help, you can contact me. I check in here at Meta a couple of times a week, but most of you already know that you can find me on en.wp every day. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion on small wikis

Hi, reverting obvious vandalism in an existing legitimate article is straightforward, but sometimes I see an inappropriate article created (this one, for example). Is there a speedy deletion tag that works on all wikis? Or do they all have their own idiosyncratic templates? Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 15:36, 26 February 2014 (UTC)

@Randykitty: {{delete}} should work on all small wikis, although some larger ones like Commons and Wikisource use {{sdelete}} for speedies and {{delete}} for XfDs. There are scripts you can use to tag faster too. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:07, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
{{speedy}} is also used at MediaWiki.org for speedy deletions and {{delete}} for others (non-speeedies). --Glaisher [talk] 04:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Twinkle on small wikis

I have tried to do the global.js thing but I can't edit the page (when I try the border goes down and I can't see anything. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 12:42, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

What browser/OS do you use? Ruslik (talk) 16:00, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Firefox. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 16:21, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
What are you talking about? What page can't you edit? What border goes down? PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:27, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Special:MyPage/global.js. I have the same problem with Firefox. My workaround is to press <escape> before WikiEd kicks in and edit without that. But if your connection and computer are fast, that's a bit like playing Space Invaders... :-) If WikiEd does kick in, the edit window just disappears (or goes to "size 0") and there is no way you can edit the page. --Randykitty (talk) 16:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Now it did work but if I go on one of the small wikis I still don't have Twinkle.--Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 16:49, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
See User:Snowolf/How to globally Twinkle. You have to ask SynchBot to add some text to your local common.js pages. Attention: the text given by Snowolf that you should copy to SynchBot contains a few errors (I guess some update was made to the bot that Snowolf missed). I just did it myself, too, and hopefully I did it correctly, so you can copy from me (but I give no warranty... :-) --Randykitty (talk) 17:05, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 17:06, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
You should blame me if there is a change, since I'm the one who changed it from Pathoschild's discontinued Synchbot to Hoo man's. See here. Of course, feel free to correct any mistakes. PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

(outdent) @Randykitty: is the bug with WikEd or CodeEditor? Does it have a ticket number of bugzilla? PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:20, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

  • No, from the screenshots there, it doesn't look like the problem comes from CodeEditor. I don't know whether it has a ticket number, I'm afraid. I encountered the same issue on the enWP, but when I got around it, I must admit that I never alerted anyone about it... --Randykitty (talk) 17:26, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
    Thank you but that still doesn't solve why I still don't have Twinkle on any small wikis. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
    You need to either have your common.js created on every wiki, or wait for GlobalCssJs extension to be deployed (you can test it on beta.wmflabs where it already is deployed!). PiRSquared17 (talk) 17:01, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I have tried it (https://tt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%83%D1%87%D1%8B:Reception123/commons.js) but in vain. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 17:07, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
@Reception123: I have moved the page now to tt:User:Reception123/common.js, instead of common*s*.js. Check whether Twinkle works now after clearing your cache. --Glaisher [talk] 17:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Also please pay more attention when requesting this: Special:Diff/8123047 :) --Glaisher [talk] 17:29, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Glaisher and other who tried to help me. Now it works. --Reception123/Receptie123 (talk) 05:13, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

The Medical Translation Project needs help

The Medical Translation Project has provided over 600 translations in close collaboration between translators, medical Wikipedians and Wikipedians working in other languages.

  • We aim to provide content and medical information in languages that are widely spoken, but currently small on Wikipedia.
  • We need help with all aspects of our project, from running maintenance tasks to ensuring the content we provide works and is read as intended.

I believe we share a similar goal in seeing small Wikis one day grow up to be not so small!

Your expertise on small Wikis is invaluable to us–If you are interested in helping or simply giving guidance to our project reply here or at our talk page. (Also feel free to send me a message/mail). CFCF (talk) 09:09, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Watchlist with watch/ignore talk page threads and global watchlist

As an IEG proposal, I have proposed making a user script which permits you to watch or ignore threads on talk pages. With this script, for talk pages your watchlist will only show the threads you have chosen to watch. Alternately it will show all threads except those which you have indicated you desire to ignore. In addition, the script will permit you to display entries from your watchlist on other Wikipedia projects and languages. Discussion is encouraged at the IEG page. — Makyen (talk) 18:12, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism_reports

hi, i add 3 report in Vandalism reports, plz check --Florence (talk) 15:39, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Sandboxes

You should ignore each edits at all pages that are listed in Wikidata-logo.svg Project:Sandbox. Nevertheless, this reverting by Matiia was correct. But in normal cases each sandbox allows new users or IPs to do everything - including any nonsense or vandalism. -- Juetho (talk) 16:38, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Crosswiki warning template

Hi, I inform to all SWMT members that I've created a warning template to use in all wikis. All of you can use and modify this template, of course. The template is here. Regards.--Syum90 (talk) 07:25, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I would prefer using a script listing warnings in multiple languages... well at least the most common languages. Tropicalkitty (talk) 07:32, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
@Tropicalkitty: what script?--Syum90 (talk) 07:33, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
I think what Tropicalkitty says is this[5].--Infinite0694 (Talk) 07:41, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Ok, thanks Infinite0694.--Syum90 (talk) 13:21, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

User:Sdf in hak.wikipedia.org

Dear collegues! Please note hak.wikipedia.org and hak:User:Sdf. This user practices mass creation very short stubs and redirects. Recently, he began to create many articles with using "ContentTranslation" Extension (with no translation from Chinese language). I was deleteed his contribs for two days, and post warning message in his talkpage (but did not block his account). Maybe someone (with more language experience) include this site in watchlist? --Kaganer (talk) 17:13, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

乙女目録

Dear Sorry. But You never blocked my site. I am Createve Comons4.0 and moderato. You look http://freedomdefined.org/Definition. Plase--乙女目録 (talk) 08:50, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Judeo-Spanish (Ladino) Wikipedia

Hi, SWMT. I just want to let you know that I will be on an approximate two-week wikibreak starting this weekend, and my access to ladwiki (or any other project) will be very limited. I am usually pretty on top of things at ladwiki, but other sysops there are present much more sporadically. So I'd appreciate your help in keeping a closer eye on things between 27 August and 8 September. Many thanks in advance. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:15, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

bxr.wiki wikitext and VisualEditor broken

If anyone could please take a look at Buryat Wikipedia engine. I suspect there is something wrong with the interface. 1. The editing interface does not load. Wikitext editing works only partially, and VisualEditor does not work at all. 2. For not-logged in users the main page displays a page from several days ago. I spotted both problems from several computers and browsers. --Edler von Udinium 12:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Account Creation is blocked in Sdwiki

See this discussion Account Creation is blocked in Sdwiki, plz resolve it immediately. Thanks...Jogi don (talk) 11:19, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Judeo-Spanish (Ladino) Wikipedia

I must attend to a family funeral and will be offline for a bit. Please keep a watch on things over there. Thanks. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:41, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Judeo-Spanish (Ladino) Wikipedia

I will be in and out for Passover. Please keep a watch on things there. Thank you. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:41, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

For some, 'diversity' = 'the uniformity of monolingualism'.

moved to Meta:Babel#For_some.2C_.27diversity.27_.3D_.27the_uniformity_of_monolingualism.27.. Stryn (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Yiddish Wiktionary

I am looking for a someone with technical (computer / IT / programming) knowledge to help me while editing the Yiddish Wiktionary. This project seems to have been dead for many months (years?) now, and I have no clue as to where to start reviving it or how to perform some larger changes (e.g. automatic replacement &c). If there is anyone willing to co-operate, I would be grateful for contacting me on the Polish Wikipedia. I speak English, German, Japanese and my native Polish, I also understand without problems Russian and Turkish (but I am poor at using them actively). Yiddish would also be an option, but it probably does not matter. Maitake (talk) 13:40, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

Non-techie here but interested in following developments regarding Yiddish. Message left at pl:Dyskusja wikipedysty:Maitake. -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:15, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Mass low/no-relevance new page creations on Small Wikis

I'm reporting on a recurring phenomenon clearly viewed at Wikidata, whose admins suggested the problem might best be aired at Meta as I'm looking for the best course of action in these events. Over the past four months in my daily activity on the ZU WP, there have been a handful of page creations for some American fast-food franchise (e.g. this latest:d:Q376627. These will have a single or double line of content, apparently machine translated, likewise a red-link category. Checking the Wikidata item, it emerges that the (usually IP) user has created ca. five dozen (!) of these pages, many on Small WPs. In the WPs where there's no administrator, one of you is likely to discover the situation and see to its remedy. My query: Is or has there been a policy of mass deleting for such spam? How do you advise me to handle this? Thanks! -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:33, 25 November 2017 (UTC)

Not sure whether this talk page is the best venue for this discussion. There's not much we can do, as anyone can edit Wikimedia projects, and the American fast-food franchises are not the only topic that is spammed across wikis. But when we see those we should remove the pages immediately and globally block the IP / user. But they are usually creating pages also on wikis with many administrators, where global sysops can't remove pages. Stryn (talk) 09:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
@Deborahjay and Stryn: Now this person (if a /130 IPv6 subnet like "2600:1700:1e0:6b20/130" is enough to identify a single person) is doing the same here. Mahir256 (talk) 00:19, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
The English version of the article in the latest example is en:Smashburger. That was created in 2009 by a long-term editor in good standing, who remains active. It has been edited by a good number of others since, non of whom have seen fit to nominate it for deletion. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:25, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing: The problem, of course, is not with the English article, but that the articles on this franchise on other wikis are a single or double line of content, apparently machine translated, likewise a red-link category and that [c]hecking the Wikidata item, it emerges that the (usually IP) user has created ca. five dozen (!) of these pages, many on Small WPs, which appears to be spam behavior. Mahir256 (talk) 00:20, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Arabic World

By chance I have seen activities on arbic Wikipedia Is someone who has contact with the colleagues?

Best --Tom (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

IRC

I am trying to connect to #cvn-sw in IRC as marshmallych1. But I cannot connect because I receiving next message:

[17:36] == #cvn-sw Cannot join channel (+b) - you are banned

Can administrators of this channel say, why I am banned? Marshmallych 14:43, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Incubator reform

Hi,

I made a proposal to address the many technical problems with Incubator. Basically, instead of having many languages stored under one wiki and separated by prefixes, there will be a wiki for each new language, with special configuration that will allow its quick closure if it becomes inactive or spammy. If and when this proposal is implemented, it will significantly change the way in which the Wikimedia Incubator works, and it will get many new wikis created.

This proposal received thoughtful and generally positive response at these places:

The discussions above, though generally positive, are not enough to start implementing this, so I'm asking other groups of people who may be interested in it, and the Small Wiki Monitoring Team is obviously one of these groups, because a system to monitor vandalism effectively will have to be in place.

So:

  1. Please read the original proposal in Phabricator: Make creating a new Language project easier
  2. It's a good idea to read all the comments on the Phabricator task page, but in particular, note the comment by Urbanecm. It deals with the steps to making these wikis possible to monitor for vandalism.
  3. Look at the points raised by Revi at the discussion in the Incubator's Community portal about the problems of monitoring.
  4. Look at the points raised by StevenJ81 on the Language Committee mailing list about his assessment of the number of new wikis that will be created: https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/langcom/2018-July/002161.html

That's a lot of info to process, so first of all, thanks for your time :)

Given the above, what do you think? Are the potential problems of monitoring the new incubator wikis addressed in the current written proposals?

If not, which problems do you see?

Thanks! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 16:35, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

So far, incubator admins monitored all of the test projects (global sysops for instance do not even have access to the incubator). Does this mean that the anti-vandalism work on test projects is supposed to be delegated from incubator admins away to the SWMT? Urbanecm's proposal on phabricator sounds a little like this is not going to be the case if the new incubator operates on its own wiki cluster. --Vogone (talk) 16:53, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
My understanding is that Incubator admins would be playing the role of "global sysop" in this cluster. It doesn't have to be that way, of course, but my sense was that you guys have your hands full already. StevenJ81 (talk) 02:39, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the comments, Vogone and StevenJ81.
Does this mean that the anti-vandalism work on test projects is supposed to be delegated from incubator admins away to the SWMT? - maybe. It kind of makes sense to me, but of course I'm not going to just do it without asking the SWMT first :)
If this happens, there will be many new wikis. They will probably have a different URL structure, something like https://nd.incubator.wikipedia.org (or maybe something different, but that's not the point). There will be a procedure for their closure that is less bureaucratic than the usual wiki closure procedure (I don't have full details yet, but that's part of the plan). Other than that, however, they will function similarly to a usual wiki: each wiki with its own recent changes, extensions, Wikidata connection, etc.
In this regard they will be similar to the small wikis that we have now. Quite possibly some of them will be more active than many of the full-fledged, but low-activity wikis. So maybe they could be monitored similarly to the small wikis; there will be just more of them.
Urbanecm (User:Martin Urbanec) says in Phabricator: Also, the changes should be directed to one IRC channel and another interface can simulate global recent changes (so the patrolling requirement will be solved). The SWMT uses IRC today, so it sounds similar.
But maybe I'm missing something important. That's what I'm really asking here. --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 11:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
I talked about one IRC channel because it is very hard to monitor whole cluster. The IRC solution SWMT developed works just fine, and there's no sense with not using something working just fine for other wikicluster being globally patrolled by another group of people (in this case, Incubator admins playing global sysop (or maybe steward) role in the new cluster), or potentionally for the same group of people (SWMT), depending on how the decision will look like. From the technical side, it doesn't matter. --Martin Urbanec (talk) 11:36, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Change to cross-wiki notifications proposed

May I request comments on Community Wishlist Survey 2019/Editing#Notifications should be able to display all cross-wiki notifications, whatever their status, please? HLHJ (talk) 20:20, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Help monitoring the Northern Sámi Wikipedia on a daily basis

Hello all. Bureaucrat from the Northern Sámi Wikipedia here. I could use some daily help with the Northern Sámi Wikipedia, as I'm short on time to monitor all the changes that one anon user who doesn't know any Northern Sámi is making (via different IP addresses, albeit from one IP address for a couple of days at least). While the user is not outright vandalizing the se-wiki, this user has a propensity for making small changes that are not necessarily adding value to the se-wiki like adding extremely generic categories (or even incorrect categories), removing outdated information without replacing it with current information, replacing part of the information while leaving part of the old information, etc. to dozens of articles a day. It would also be helpful if the SWMT monitor knows enough Norwegian to communicate with the user when necessary, as (s)he then reacts better to advice. Thanks for any and all help. -Yupik (talk) 20:59, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Suspicious accounts with Chinese characters created in Basque Wiktionary

Sorry for writing about this issue here, I am not sure where exactly should I be reporting this. Please send me to where this should be posted and I will do so as soon as possible.

Hello all, I wanted to reach you with an issue that worries me. For the last year a total of 39 suspìcious accounts were manually created in Basque Wiktionary, all of them named with Chinese or Japanese characters: (List of suspicious accounts)(List of recent manually created accounts) (Basque language has nothing related with these languages or with their characters). These accounts have made not a single edit nor any kind of activity inside our project, and looking for their overall Wikimedia accounts, the only project in which they are registered is ours. It makes me think they could be used in the future with malicious purposes, although it surpasses me to know how. I have not blocked any of these accounts as they have shown no reason for that action to be taken yet. I also have not made any further research about this situation more than what I have told you here, however I am sure many of you might have already become aware of this suspicious activity in other Wikimedia projects, and could know the reason behind this or how to proceed or what protocol to follow to face this. Thank you in advance, --Bengoa (My user talk) 13:18, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

From the name pattern all these account seems to use pop culture (idol, j-pop artist) name, either real Isechika or copypcat of Isechika.--AldnonymousBicara? 13:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Small Wiki Toolkits focus area at Wikimania

Hello all, we're organising a "Small Wiki Toolkits" focus area at this year's Wikimania Hackathon & Wikimania to support wikis that don’t have many technical contributors. Maybe this is interesting for some of you? The plan is to run small workshops & to offer technical support also during the main Wikimania conference and to provide a "problem & solution matching" board, so that people who want to solve issues in their wikis can find + talk to people who have solved similar problems in their wiki already. If you are at Wikimania and would like to offer technical support & discuss topics around templates, bots, gadgets, wiki configuration settings, translation tools ... - anything you can think of that might be helpful to share & discuss - please feel welcome to sign up at the Small Wiki Toolkits community booth :-). Also, if you're looking for support, you're very welcome to drop by! You can find all the information on this page: wmania:2019:Small_wiki_toolkits. Hope to see some of you there :-) -BMueller (WMF) (talk) 20:36, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

IRC

To monitor changes on small wikis, I use the IRC channel on freenode. The normal screen gives 20-30 of the latest edits with clear color coding for blacklisted or Ip users and such, making it very easy to spot possible problematic edits. However, when I just went there, I get a completely different screen, listing perhaps 5 recent edits and with a color scheme and font size that makes it very hard to read. Frankly, I find this unworkable. I'm not very familiar with IRC, this is the only channel I ever use. Perhaps somebody here can tell me how I can get the previous screen back. If this is an "upgrade" that cannot be changed back, I will have to stop patrolling edits on small wikis. Help will be greatly appreciated! Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 12:12, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

@Randykitty: Do you mean #cvn-sw? I am seeing at this moment users on blacklist, more than 5 edits are shown? --Cohaf (talk) 12:30, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes, #cvn-sw. It looks very different from the last time that I visited there (don't remember exactly, perhaps a few weeks). --Randykitty (talk) 13:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
@Randykitty: It still look the same to me since I first visited, I am using IRC Cloud btw. --Cohaf (talk) 15:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Did you change IRC clients? The channel looks the same to me, but if you changed clients that might impact the look. Most clients are very customizable so you should be able to adapt it to your preferred look. – Ajraddatz (talk) 16:00, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm not aware of having changed anything. Frankly, I wouldn't even know how to switch IRC clients. This is the link that I always use: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#cvn-sw if that helps... --Randykitty (talk) 16:04, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Solved! From the above I learned that there are different IRC clients, something I didn't know (I mentioned being not familiar with IRC... :-) So I Googled IRC client and found mIRC. After installing it, things now still look a bit different than before, but a lot better than what I had, so as far as I am concerned my problem is solved. Thanks to everybody here for the fast assistance!! --Randykitty (talk) 16:21, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Oops, I was too optimistic... There are two problems. One is that you cannot simply click on a wikilink to open it, because mIRC runs as a separate program from Firefox. Second: it's not free (after 30 days you have to pay. 20 bucks is perhaps not much but still...). Any suggestions for another Firefox-compatible client? --Randykitty (talk) 17:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Yep: IRCCloud (irccloud.com). There's a free version (you don't have to pay) and it's what I use. It's web-based, so it works on any browser. Also, since it requires registration with them, you can use the same IRCCloud account on multiple devices (phones, computers, etc). Hope this helps, Vermont (talk) 20:56, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Forgot to add, I recommend trying out SWViewer. I like it better than IRC for antivandalism-patrolling. Vermont (talk) 20:57, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip, sounds like IRCCloud might get me back to what I am used to. But as soon as I have time, I'll check out SWViewer. First time I hear about that! Thanks!! --Randykitty (talk) 21:06, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I haven't heard of SWViewer. I also can't seem to log into it... – Ajraddatz (talk) 21:13, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
It’s bug. fixed.—Iluvatar (talk) 22:19, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

The second half of this month's Research Showcase talks about patrolling, and calls out the particular risks for small wikis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDhAnHrkBks

So I thought I'd come say winkThanks! to some of the people who help address this problem. You are all great. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Your showcase is excellent!13019891ahs (talk) 13:36, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Members list

Since there is a little more passage here, I point out that there is an interesting discussion about the membership template started by user:1997kB. If someone wants to put his little touch (an idea, a reflection, etc.). Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 09:59, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Anti-Harassment Tools team to work on generating data on testwiki

Hi y'all! As a heads up, the Anti-Harassment Tools team will work on generating a bunch of data on test.wikipedia.org next week in preparation for some user tests to be done with the new Checkuser. The edits will be made from non-WMF accounts. Let me know if there are any concerns with that. Thanks. -- NKohli (WMF) (talk) 20:56, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. --DannyS712 (talk) 21:16, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Help smaller wiki communities grow their technical capacity!

Hi all, Small Wiki Toolkits (SWT) is an initiative to support small wiki communities by sharing and developing technical skills needed to support, maintain, and grow a language wiki. You can learn more about it here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits. As a next step for this initiative, sharing with you some ideas on how you can be a part of this:

  • Contribute to a Starter kit by proposing or helping develop and write recommendations for technical topics in simple English.
  • Develop toolkits using the recommendations on the SWT page. You can see existing toolkits in the Category:Small_wiki_toolkits on Wikimedia Commons.
  • Learn technical topics using the resources on the SWT page and apply the skills gained to provide technical support to a small wiki community.
  • Translate resources such as the SWT page itself and tutorials on technical topics linked from it.
  • Provide technical support on the support desk on mediawiki.org, mailing lists, etc.
  • Organize a technical workshop or a session to help a small wiki community.

If you want to help with any of the above or there is anything else you would like to share around building local capacity in a small wiki, please start a discussion on the talk page and/or add your name to the list of interested membersSSethi (WMF) (talk) 00:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC) (on behalf of the Small Wiki Toolkits Initiative)

Monitoring files

Hi! I think it is a good initiative to help the smaller wikis!

I like to visit wikis and check images. It is not always easy as I only speak a few languages and sometimes Google Translate can't help me. And there are thousands of files so I can only check a few wikis. Since the SWMT visit a lot of wikis and perhaps understand some of the languages maybe you could also have a look at files?

In short all files must have a license. Either a free one like cc-by-sa-4.0 or a non-free fairuse template. If you know about copyright and checking images it is of course easier but even if you usually do not work with checking files it should be possible to see if there is a license template on the files and if local admins seems to delete files.

If you come across a wiki that seems to need help with images you can ping me if you can't help them or do not have the time. --MGA73 (talk) 08:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)