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Gentse wikimeet op 15 jan '11[edit]

SPQRobin , misschien weet je hier nog niet van, daarom dit berichtje ;-) Zie nl:WP:O#Wikimeet_Gent MADe 11:05, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Ja, ik wist ervan, maar ik kon niet gisteren. Toch bedankt om het mij te melden :) SPQRobin (talk) 17:40, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Merging simple.wikiquote into en.wikiquote[edit]

Hi Robin. Regarding your update at Proposals for closing projects/Archive, in which you indicate that content of the closed Simple English Wikiquote "should be merged into the English Wikiquote" [emphasis added]: I rather doubt it. This has not been proposed to the English Wikiquote or discussed there.

The English Wikiquote does not undertake to explain the meanings of quotations, beyond the occasional clarification of context where necessary; and only includes paraphrases when they are widely attributed misquotes, for the purpose of debunking common errors of misattribution. I am not aware that Simple English Wikiquote contains a significant body of quoteworthy actual, original quotations, as distinct from contributor opinions expressed about what they mean, that are not already included in the English language project, although I confess I have not researched the question in depth. Is this a finding of the Language Committee?

I would ask that system administrators or staff not be instructed to transwiki this content en masse without first proposing this "merger" at the English Wikiquote Village pump, and that the "should be merged" language be reconsidered. Thank you. ~ Ningauble 20:22, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

First I want to say that I did not say "content should be merged into the English WQ" as a Langcom member. Nor do sysadmins or staff have anything to do with this. I usually transfer content of closed wikis (to Incubator) because it appears that otherwise nobody would do it. In this case, I read a part of the discussion, and I said "should be merged" as I thought it would be a logical consequence: I thought the goal of the English WQ is to explain quotes in understandable words, i.e understandable English, and I thought the Simple English WQ had the same goal. However, looking now at the English Wikisource, that is apparently not the goal of the English WQ. With "content should be merged into the English WQ", I meant that *extra* content could be transferred to English WQ on a per-quote basis. It is impractical to organise an en-masse merge/transfer and that is not what I meant with a "merger". However, now that I know the difference in goals between the English WQ and the former Simple English WQ, I have removed the "should be merged" note (now it's just "n/a"). Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for understanding the difference between these projects, and for clarifying your intent. If I misunderstood what you were saying, it only illustrates the hazards contributors face when they attempt to interpret and "explain" someone else's words as the Simple project tried to do.

Thank you also for working on moving closed projects to the Incubator, which must seem like a thankless task when no one takes an interest in actively incubating them. Does the "n/a" notation indicate that the wiki will be left where it is, preserving the status quo?

More than one editor at the English Wikiquote has expressed the view that continuing to host the closed project within the domain is an embarrassment to Wikiquote,[1] but the nomination for closure did not explicitly call for deletion, and the practice that "useful content of closed wikis are imported to the Wikimedia Incubator" does not provide a mechanism for determining whether the content is useful, or what to do if it is not. I understand that it is not really the responsibility of Langcom, or anybody else, to decide these questions. Is there another way to move forward on the project's final disposition, and avoid the ironic default that if nobody finds the content useful enough to incubate or adopt then it may be preserved forever as a monument to uselessness? ~ Ningauble 17:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

"n/a" means that the closed wiki has been left as it is. Usually because there is no useful content to transfer, in this case because the usefulness of the goal of the Simple English WQ had been questioned. When I transfer contents to Incubator, I just look at the pages, which is often not more than a small Main Page and/or some other short pages. And indeed, as you say, a closed wiki remains open to public and is not actually deleted. In the past I have had (several times) the intention to propose a policy for closing projects (like others have done but without success), but so far I haven't yet proposed one. The current practice is to find consensus to delete the wiki (in this case the Simple English WQ), and then submit a bug request to actually delete it (this has been done with Toki Pona and Klingon wikis). SPQRobin (talk) 21:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Alas, I realize that past efforts have failed to produce a general policy for what happens to closed projects. I wanted to avoid re-arguing the whole proposal for closure in order to determine consensus for what to do with the content. I have been avoiding it for nearly a year, ever since I realized there is no standard procedure,[2] in the hope that someone would incubate it. More than a year after the proposal to close was adopted, it may be time to formally call the question, as you suggest. If I do, would you mind if I cite this thread as a pertinent discussion about whether or not to transfer content to the Incubator? I wouldn't want to quote you saying "there is no useful content to transfer" out of context! ~ Ningauble 22:08, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
Of course you may cite this thread. When you say that you want to revive the discussion about transferring the content to the Incubator, I assume you are talking about Simple English WQ specifically, or about the closing policy in general? I might (finally) propose a general policy for closing and deleting wikis. Btw, meanwhile, a user has reverted my edit on the archive ([3]) but I reverted it back. SPQRobin (talk) 23:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
I think the lack of a general policy is a real problem, but I don't know that I have much stomach for a full-fledged policy debate. My particular interest is in removing the Simple English Wikiquote from the domain. Consensus seems clear that it was all an unfortunate mistake, that the "Wikiparaphrase" concept does not suit the Foundation's mission. I would be happy to see it archived at the Incubator or adopted at a non-WMF host such as Wikia but, if the former is contrary to Incubator policy and if nobody steps forward to do the latter, to be frank, I just want it gone.

Btw, the same user has added language in the header of Proposals for closing projects to the effect that closed projects can never be deleted and will always be imported to the Incubator. I was about to post a complete rewrite reflecting what appears to me, albeit vaguely, to have been actual practice (and skirting dangerously close to getting involved in policy formation) when I was distracted by a vandalism rampage at English Wikiquote. I am going to post it momentarily, with some explanation on the talk page, and I would welcome your review after I do. I may be missing the mark, and I am not sure it wouldn't be better to just remove the whole paragraph pending the eventual emergence of an actual policy ... someday. ~ Ningauble 02:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

I hope a solution can be found for the Simple English WQ. Meanwhile I am drafting a policy proposal at User:SPQRobin/Closing projects. Regarding the header of Proposals for closing projects, you have well rewritten the text. And regarding your comment on the talk page, I am not familiar with licensing but some wikis have already been deleted so future deletions should be allowed. SPQRobin (talk) 23:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Swiss German[edit]

Thank you for checking the proposal. Do you know where I can asking for moving this wiki ( to the Wp:gsw? --Simon.hess 16:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

As I noted on the request page, a bug has been submitted (see bug 23215) but it has been on the "to do" list since 2008 (there is a backlog of many bugs that need to be fixed), so it is very hard to get the wiki moved. There are some other wikis that need to be moved, and it seems that it is technically a bit difficult to move a wiki. You can try commenting on the bug, but it will probably not come to the attention of the developers :(. Btw, ich finde Schweizerdeutsch eine schöne Sprache, und ich gehe zufällig in Augustus in der Schweiz :-) SPQRobin (talk) 20:58, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. Hopefully, they will move the wiki in the near future. I hope you will enjoy your trip to Switzerland. Freundliche Grüsse aus der Schweiz. --Simon.hess 22:35, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Albanian Wikinews[edit]

Hi SPQRobin! What should we do to create Albanian Wikinews?--Olsihysa 17:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Now that the localisation is complete, you should maintain the localisation (when new messages are added) and maintain activity at Incubator. I will propose the approval of the Albanian Wikinews, so it may be created in the near future. SPQRobin (talk) 19:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Thank you very much!--Olsihysa 19:40, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Help needed for Mingrelian Wiki-project[edit]


I need some help relating to Mingrelian Wiki-project. Can you please send me your e-mail where I can contact you? My e-mail is: machirkholi (at) gmail (dot) com

Look forward to hearing from you.

Best Wishes, George

closing stuff[edit]

Well, I wasn't sure, but I was being bold... now — I would really be a "hardass" on the "inactivity is not a valid reason"-line. I can guarantee you there will be a crapload of people who will once again pop in and go "nothing happening, too small, unimportant language, not worth it, yada-yada." Seb az86556 03:49, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


Beste Robin, Kun je eens naar deze discussie kijken? Mevrouw of meneer Brown en ik zijn het kennelijk helemaal oneens met elkaar. Mijn mening komt kennelijk niet helemaal (of liever 'helemaal niet') op hem over. Jij bent volgens je GP moderator en lid van de talencommissie. Jouw stem zal hoop ik zwaarder wegen. Alvast dank, Klaas. S.I. 'Patio' Oliantigna 08:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Beste Klaas. Ik zie waar je in de war bent. Er worden twee verschillende systemen met nummers gehanteerd: in het sjabloon zelf (de groene boxjes) is het van 0 (laag) naar N (native). Maar alle gebruikers worden in de categorie automatisch gesorteerd van 1 (native) naar 5 (basis). Dus als je op de categorie kijkt naar de lijst met gebruikers moet je kijken naar onder welk getal een gebruiker staat. Sta je bijvoorbeeld onder 2, ben je near-native. Dit is gedaan zodat de moedertaalsprekers éérst getoond worden. Het is verwarrend en ik had het eerst ook niet door, maar ik hoop dat je het nu ook snapt :) Ik heb een zinnetje toegevoegd aan de categorieën zodat het hopelijk duidelijker is voor iedereen. Groeten, SPQRobin (talk) 12:19, 3 July 2011 (UTC) (PS: hier ben ik geen moderator)

Requests for new languages/Wikiversity Arabic[edit]

Hi. The questionnaire is done. --Meno25 15:45, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I submitted a bug request. SPQRobin (talk) 00:42, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


Hello. May this proposal be brought onto the LangCom for discussion? - As the template documentation says only LangCom members are allowed to change the status... Regards, -- Dferg ☎ talk 10:00, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The proposal is submitted only a few days ago. Even though the support is currently unanimous, I'm going to wait some time. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 12:18, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

login maken op[edit]

Hey Robin, hoe maak ik een nieuwe login aan op Ik kan inloggen, maar niet registreren... MADe 17:34, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Zie de e-mail. SPQRobin (talk) 20:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Lezgi Wikipedia[edit]

What else is needed for the approval of the lezgin section? Namik555 07:30, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

It would be nice if more people join the project. Anyway, I sent an e-mail to the other members of the language committee. I'll inform you soon. SPQRobin (talk) 20:20, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you that you have responded , I will wait Namik555 03:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
I see more people are joining. (The more people, the better!) I think the Lezgian Wikipedia will be approved soon. SPQRobin (talk) 17:39, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Robin.

I am one of the Lezgi-speakers in Wikipedia. What is the current situaton with approval of Lezgi Wikipedia?why cannot it be approved now?I guess, with that more people will join and contribute their efforts to the project.Migraghvi 15:54, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

It is in the process of approval. I hope it can be approved very soon. SPQRobin (talk) 17:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi. How much time will last for checking the content. For more than three years lezgin wikipedia in the incubator. Lezgin language is at the stage of extinction because of the assimilation policy of Russia and Azerbaijan. Could speed up the process. Thank You.Lezgistxa 03:44, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

I totally understand that it should be approved, but we need verification. Amir would contact someone, so it's probably better to ask him about how much time it would still take. SPQRobin (talk) 20:18, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi. I wanted to ask about the lezgin wikipedia. You refused to the creation o project? Lezgistxa (talk) 17:49, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi. No, I did not refuse its creation. We are waiting for the developers to create the project. This can take some time, I hope it will be done in the near future. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 18:55, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I would like to know what else you need to create a full-fledged partition that you want to translate, and when it will be created Lezgins wikipedia. Thank You Lezgistxa (talk) 13:39, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't know when it will be created, it is waiting for the developers to create the wiki. What do you mean with "partition that you want to translate"? SPQRobin (talk) 16:51, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Babel extension[edit]

Hi SPQRobin, I saw you removed the configs. Do we need to open a bug and post it there again if we posted it on meta before this edit? Thanks.--Bencmq 13:24, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

No, everything that was on that page will be already used as configuration. All new changes will have to be submitted to bugzilla. SPQRobin (talk) 13:29, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Global sysop stuff[edit]

Hey SPQRobin, congrats on passing your RfGS. I've added your name to this template, but I don't know what other IRC nicks you use or what languages you speak. If you could update that it would be great. Thanks! Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I added the languages I speak (it's the same as the babel on my userpage anyway). Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 02:30, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Rename of Kurdish Wikipedia[edit]

Thanks for moving. I wasn't sure to do it since there are no processes for "renames" on meta at the moment. -- とある白い猫 chi? 23:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC)


Your userpage depicts numerous translation userboxes. Could I interest you in translating the main meta page? The template is: Template:Main Page/en. -- とある白い猫 chi? 23:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Template:Main Page/nl seems to be translated already. It seems User:Romaine did it already. SPQRobin (talk) 18:21, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

hello, Robin![edit]

...did you find out of Aachen last night ;) ? i had some problems too (missed the last train to Cologne - arrival at home in Bonn: about 6:00 AM). hope, we'll meet again at the first Belgian Chapter-party :) ! until then, --ulli purwin 13:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't have any big problem, they were only one street further. How late did you leave? Arriving in Bonn at 6:00 AM is very late! :-) For your information, there will be a Wiki Loves Monuments award giving event on 10 November (see nl:WP:O) which will also be a kind of wiki-meet, but I hope we can organise a real Belgian wiki-meet soon. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 18:14, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism on Wikipedia Kirmanjki[edit]

Dear Robin! The user Gomada riots on Wikipedia Kirmanjki. He has caused Ebe123 to block me. Although I am the test administrator and the founder of this project. Please read about this issue here, here, here and here. Please be as fair and find a righteous solution to this matter. Please don't let these Kurdish populists to destroy our projects. Because we have been working since years on it. There must be a certain respect for all the trouble. Best regards! --Mirzali 13:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

I see you have been unblocked meanwhile. I don't know the situation well enough to be able to judge on this. I find it sad that this conflict has been going on for years, and I hope a solution can be found. SPQRobin (talk) 00:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

your changes to css in hebrew wikipedia[edit]

Hi Robin.

Thanks for the changes and improvements to hebrew wikipedia, specifically in and around RTL. we still have one issue (that i know of - of course there may be more that i do not know about...) that have been bugging us for a long time. Amir did some changes one way and another, and for a while (i think) it was fine, but it's broken again.

the issue has to do with tables (or DIV's with borders) that are flushed to the right, and have lists to the left of them. in this combination, the list bullets appear inside the table or div.

this would be something like this (here):

Header text Header text Header text
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
Example Example Example
  • item 1
  • item 2
  • item 3
  • item 4
  • item 5
  • item 6

as you can see, the bullets (barely) clear the right border of the table (btw - i think a little more space would be nice here, also). now look at a similar arrangement here: w:he:User:קיפודנחש/ארגח.

i tested this with chrome and ff - not sure if ie behaves the same or not.

can you find some css magic to fix this problem?

also, can you please create and watch your talk page on hewiki? this will help with the communication, as i do not frequent meta, and it seems like a reasonable request as long as you modify pages in hewiki... (you can also respond in my talkpage in hewiki if you like).

peace, thanks, קיפודנחש 20:50, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

Answered on hewiki SPQRobin (talk) 21:48, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
responded there. קיפודנחש 02:50, 23 October 2011 (UTC)


I've question for you here. Regards, Przemub 18:07, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Answered there (sorry for the delay). SPQRobin (talk) 21:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Nso wikipedia[edit]


What is going on at nso: wikipedia? Pages can no longer be modified. When will it re-open?

Best regards,

Vargenau 20:23, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

See 30882. It was imported using the wrong character encoding, so we decided to re-import it. Therefore the wiki needs to be emptied, but it it is difficult to get the attention of sysadmins to do that... SPQRobin (talk) 21:28, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. Vargenau 15:36, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring warning and falsification of policies[edit]

[4] If you do not revert yourself, I will ask for a block for faking a policy without any consensus. Such is not appropriate behavior on any Wiki. Ottava Rima (talk) 05:30, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I was just trying to make the explanation more detailed, so it is clearer to others, as there seems to be some misunderstanding about the proposed user group. This is not "faking" anything, the thread on Wikimedia Forum is still open. SPQRobin (talk) 15:42, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
You clearly removed a statement that it was a proposed policy and substituted a statement that it was an official policy. That doesn't match up to anything you are claiming now. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:44, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
It was there before you edited it. Anyway, to prevent any unneeded flamewars, I have put it again. SPQRobin (talk) 16:05, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Thank you. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:45, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

LTR style still needed[edit]

Hi. I had to revert you changes to fa:MediaWiki:Common.css because the .ltr class is still needed. It is being used by some of the templates. The mediawiki version doesn't have the same functionality. If you can direct me to the mediawiki version's defintion, I might be able to update that to help with all wikis. Please respond on my talk page. Huji 05:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

I understand your concern, and I believe the solution is not to remove the CSS styles, but to (1) rename them to something like fawiki-ltr, and update the templates using them accordingly, and (2) to update the .rtl and .ltr class in MediaWiki to have support for indentation (which it doesn't right now).
I can take care of the first part easily. For the latter, I need you to direct me to where the .ltr class is defined in MediaWiki itself (I've been away from development for a while and I need your help here). Huji 04:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
We did need those classes, up until now. I modified the template that relied on it. Then I removed the definitions from Common.css. You should see the wiki fine now. Huji 22:47, 13 December 2011 (UTC)


See. (You didn't like that workshop much, if I remember correctly, but there was something good in it. :-p) Nemo 14:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Status for Kalmyk and Buryat Wikipedia[edit]

Please update the statuses for Kalmyk and Buryat Wikipedia. I think all the contributors of Kalmyk and Buryat Wikipedia were vanished and the growth of Mongolian Wikipedia is slow. Thanks. --Chtak Yuno 07:10, 22 December 2011 (UTC)


Do you still need it? Ruslik 10:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

His right expires this day. Anyone, can you contact WMRU to recognize Kalmyk and Buryat Wikipedias as their minority projects? --Chtak Yuno 12:02, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure you've been heard; there's nothing urgent about it. Or are they being vandalized right now? Seb az86556 15:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

@Ruslik: it can be useful from time to time, but it was agreed that it would expire, so it is OK to remove it.
@Chtak Yuno: I don't exactly understand what you want me to do. In which way does Wikimedia Russia "recognise" wiki projects? It may be better to contact someone else about that, e.g. User:Amire80. SPQRobin (talk) 15:27, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Een productief jaar?[edit]

Beste SPQRobin,

Allereerst een gelukkig 2012 en verder.
Al een tijdje vertaal ik te 'hooi en te gras' iets waarbij ik zojuist een uitdrukking bezigde waarvan ik niet weet of deze ook in Vlaanderen gemeengoed is ;-)
Waarom ik op deze wijze contact opneem is het volgende: Ik wil gebruikmakend van mijn ander (niet-SUL) account wat meer op TranslateWiki doen, maar veel is daar al vertaald. Hoe vind ik gemakkelijker te vertalen teksten. Ik ben thuis in software en met name databases (Codasyl [hiërarchisch/netwerk met DDL/DML en relationeel [SQL]) en diverse talen waaronder Perl en assembler. Kun je mij wat tips & trucs aan de hand doen? Ik zit ook op LinkedIn (zie mijn webstek). Alvast bedankt voor eventuele hulp,
Collegiale groeten, ZeaForUs 17:44, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Dag Patio, een gelukkig nieuwjaar voor jou ook.
De uitdrukking is inderdaad niet gebruikelijk hier in Vlaanderen :)
Als ik je goed begrijp wil je weten hoe je onvertaalde teksten kan vinden? Ga daarvoor naar translatewiki:Special:LanguageStats, maar meestal is 90 à 100% inderdaad al vertaald. Het kan zelfs zijn dat je meer onvertaalde pagina's hier op Meta vindt: SPecial:LanguageStats. Of bedoelde je iets anders, met programmeertalen? Groeten, SPQRobin (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Nee, zou ik ook wel iets mee kunnen, maae ia nogal tijdrovend. Ik bedoelde inderdaad plekken waar ze hulp nodig hebben. Ik ga zo af en toe eens kijken of er wat te doen is. Bedankt, ZeaForUs 20:48, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Gan Wiktionary[edit]

Hi SPQRobin, I am a contributor of Gan Wiktionary. Could you please update the status of this project since we are all looking forward to its creation. Thanks.--Jiangxinese 05:46, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I updated the status. The test wiki looks active enough, but the interface still needs to be translated (translatewiki:Special:Translate/core and translatewiki:Special:Translate/ext-0-wikimedia-main) in gan-hant and/or gan-hans. SPQRobin (talk) 13:22, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the rapid updating, we will keep on working on the localization for the future approval.--Jiangxinese 13:58, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I'm also a contributor of Gan wiktionary. It's sure more work needs to be done, however, I hope you might understand it will be a little unrealistic for small wikis to complete the interface, since these projects even have not that many articles. The most-used MediaWiki messages have been all localized into Gan and I suppose it's sufficient for general use of the project. I have no idea if the localization of "all MediaWiki messages" and "main extensions used by Wikimedia Foundation wikis" has to be strictly accomplished before the creation, but I still wish the committee has a full consideration on the actual situation of many small wikis. Regards.--Symane 13:22, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
I do understand that it is a lot of work to translate those two groups of messages, however that is how our policy is. We generally don't make exceptions to that. If you have a few contributors translating, you can do a lot of work. And if the translation activity is high, we can consider approving the wiki before it is completed, however I don't see many recent translations. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 03:28, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your comprehension, yet I have to honestly say that this policy does not fit for the real situation. People will be glad to spend some time contributing several entries, but to translate thousands and thousands of interface messages is just excessively tedious and laborious. If wiki projects really aim to democratize the share of knowledge and develop as a multilanguage media, would you think it is possible to ask the Committee to modify this "policy"?--Symane 08:37, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
I don't think I would be able to convince others, especially User:GerardM. I have already been able to reduce the amount of messages drastically, 1 or 2 years ago. Also, all wiki communities are intended to gradually continue translating the interface after their first wiki was created. Wiki communities should keep their translations up-to-date. I see there are now some 2.600 messages that need to be updated or translated. SPQRobin (talk) 02:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Half of all Wiktionaries even have not 2600 messages, anyway, I sincerely wish the community have a full, realistic consideration on non-mainstream languages, not to expect every writer to be Shakespeare as we call a calendar a "book". Thank you.--Symane 10:11, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Western Punjabi Wiktionary entry count[edit]

Can you explain why the content-page count for wikt:pnb: is showing 209 when you just imported over 3,000 entries into it 4 days ago? A spot-check of a dozen or so arbitrarily chosen entries show that they all have at least one link and one category. And besides, I coulda sworn it said 2,800-something just a few days ago (that's what I recorded over here), but by the time I started officially tracking its stats (with a program) yesterday, it was only showing 100-something (and then went above 200 today). I don't get it... - dcljr 03:18, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Same thing with the Veps Wikipedia, which was showing over 500 right after importing, but is now saying 8, even though you can easily find more than 8 articles that should be contributing to the article count. What am I missing here? - dcljr 03:28, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
It is a known problem, see bug 34184 & incubator:Help:FAQ#New wiki created. SPQRobin (talk) 11:30, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Belgian Women Perspective wanted[edit]

Hi Robin, could you please help edit Belgium or know any female editor from Belgium? Meet up pictures, anything in Belgium? Format structure for the easy one, sample would be Algeria or complicated one would be Australia. Thanks Siska.Doviana 13:15, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi Siska, I don't know much of the southern half, but for Flanders there are a few female editors but seldom meetups. I have added some links and info I could find, but I will keep the page in mind. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 14:23, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Robin, perhaps you could poke them and let them now that opportunity exist? Should they are interested to participate they need to contact Laura Hale Siska.Doviana 14:36, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Did so (sorry for the delay) SPQRobin (talk) 18:15, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Marathi Wikisource[edit]

Dear Friend, May be you are already aware , beginning of February 2012 month the Language Committee and WMF approved new wikisource projects which is independent project for Marathi Language.This has been possible with your active contribution , support and best wishes towards Marathi language Wikisource project and we are very much thankful to you for the same.

The new Marathi Wikisource community invites you and requests for same support to in times to come.

नमस्कार, आपणास कदाचित कल्पना असेल कि फेब्रुवारी २०१२ च्या सुरवातीस लँग्वेज कमिटी आणि विकिमिडिया फाऊंडेशननने मराठी भाषेकरिता स्वतंत्र विकिप्रकल्पास मान्यता दिली आहे. हे केवळ आपल्या शुभेच्छा, सक्रीय योगदान आणि पाठींब्याने शक्य झाले आहे; आणि आपल्या योगदाना बद्दल समस्त मराठी बांधवांतर्फे धन्यवाद.

आपण आपले सक्रीय सहभाग, कार्य, पाठबळ या प्रक्ल्पास देऊन मराठी भाषिकांचे हे मुक्त ग्रंथालय सर्व अंगाने समृद्ध करत रहावे म्हणून हे सादर निमंत्रण आणि नम्र विनंती.

आपण कॉमन विकिस्रोत प्रकल्पात,मराठी विकिबुक्स अथवा मराठी विकिपीडीया प्रकल्पात प्रताधिकारमुक्त साहित्याचे केलेले लेखन नवीन मराठी विकिस्रोत प्रकल्पात व्यवस्थीत स्थानांतरीत झाले आहे का हे तपासण्यात कृपया सहाय्य करावे.

आपला नम्र

Mahitgar 06:59, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Request for Adminship at pnb.wiktionary,org[edit]

Mr. SPQRobin thankyou for helping in the creation of Punjabi Wiktionary. In order to manage the wiktionary better an admin is required. Kindly host an election or choose one. I suggest Khalid Mahmood for adminship as he started the project and contributed towards its development. Danish47 15:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Hi, to elect an admin you should hold an election locally on and then ask on SRP to grant him adminship. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, let's do this[edit]

See here, thanks. Seb az86556 (talk) 02:57, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of this :) SPQRobin (talk) 15:50, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of meta-wiki[edit]

Hi, you closed Proposals for closing projects/Closure of meta-wiki within an hour of it being created, without explanation in the edit summaries, reference to the Closing projects policy, or even a courtesy note to the creator. I consider this extremely rude.

Now I understand that you're a member of LangCom, so per Closing_projects_policy#Decision the unexplained closure must be on the basis that the discussion will be "harmful". Can you please explain how the discussion will be "harmful"? Rd232 (talk) 17:34, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

A policy can be used for regular cases. In this case it makes no sense to consider the proposal. I find common sense of higher importance than what the policy says. SPQRobin (talk) 17:38, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
"In this case it makes no sense to consider the proposal." - how do you know what might come out of a discussion? At worst, it's harmless. At best, some ideas might come out of it. If it really looked like getting consensus on the page, then I'm sure it wouldn't take long to organise enough Metapedians to crush it. I find it extraordinary that you feel the right to so swiftly crush the discussion; although your attitude to policy is equally flabberghasting. Yes, when policy risks producing perverse results, we rely on en:WP:IAR (in spirit, if the letter doesn't exist on the local project) - but when policy merely risks producing discussion, we don't crush it because we personally think it cannot possibly produce anything useful. Sorry, but I think this is disgusting behaviour. PS sorry, I missed your closing Comment on the page itself - there was in fact an explanation, I just missed it. An inadequate explanation which is essentially an opinion you should have given in the Comments, but still. Rd232 (talk) 17:47, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Further, your closing comment says "Many global functions (blocking, rights, interwiki map, ...) require a central wiki. " but if those functions are tied to Meta at the back-end, I've yet to figure out how. For example, Interwiki map is a page that AFAIK can happily anywhere on the web, since it's merely a page to coordinate occasional updates to the interwiki table via a script. Similarly, blocking and rights coordination have very little technical restriction on being moved elsewhere, as far as I can tell. You have some involvement with interwiki extensions I see, so maybe you can clarify that part at least. Rd232 (talk) 18:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

I think this closure was inappropriate and the discussion should be allowed to run its course, and then closure by a cross-wiki triumvirate. Eraserhead1 (talk) 20:31, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

For the interwiki map, developers would have to update the URL which is not much work but this is one of many examples. Countless number of links would have to be updated, etc, etc (links in general to Meta). In addition, logged actions are in Meta's database so you would still need Meta if you want to look at past actions. Anyway, to be honest, I don't want to spend my time on this kind of endless discussions, so feel free to reopen (you have my OK word). You are right that discussion is harmless. SPQRobin (talk) 20:40, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Eraserhead1 (talk) 20:49, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. Just how much work would really be involved should be part of that discussion. Obviously implementing the proposal would be quite a bit of work (!), but I think the overwhelming majority of links wouldn't be that much of a deal to update. Rd232 (talk) 21:17, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

About the "Proposals for new projects" process[edit]

Hello, Robin :)

I would like to have some of your advice about a topic I asked in the forum, here. MarcoAurelio said you have some knowledge about it, so that's why I'm here. Thanks in advance! --Racso ¿¿¿??? 22:47, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Racso. I'm only active on the requests for new languages. For the proposals for new projects, there are no rules at all. Most current projects stem from the early beginnings of Wiki(p|m)edia, Wikiversity being the newest (2006). If you want to start a new one, I guess it would be a good start to propose it on foundation-l. But I need to repeat, there are no rules. I think most projects that started were 'split' from existing ones, for content that was often added but was not appropriate for the existing ones. Rodovid does not really match that pattern, so if you ask me there is little chance. But you can try. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 00:45, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Assistance with WebFonts[edit]

Gday SPQRobin. At English Wikisource, I have been asked to implement some webfonts, and neither the extension page nor its associated help page really give me enlightenment about how to add components for a wiki, and wonder if you could either give me some hints or point out a wiki where it is nicely in place, and I can go and look and replicate. Thanks. billinghurst sDrewth 09:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I don't really see what you want information about exactly. I tried to give some info on Wikisource Scriptorium. It may be easier to continue there, or you could ask on IRC. SPQRobin (talk) 18:39, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I misunderstood the nature of the comment, I saw it as a request for admin doing, not a reflective comment. Ignorance of the subject matter was my undoing. Both yours and Gerald's comments, and possibly a new day all helped. :-) billinghurst sDrewth 06:37, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Buryat Wikipedia[edit]

...and per policy, you must reject this proposal immediately as it is against policy. Seb az86556 (talk) 02:34, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Requests for comment/User:SPQRobin. Seb az86556 (talk) 02:44, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Answered on the RFC. SPQRobin (talk) 03:16, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Loss of English layer at euwiktionary[edit]

Gday. I was visiting through euwiktionary, and find that (some of) the English layer for the left sidebar has disappeared when set to English as the language. I haven't checked for other languages. Is this something that is controlled at translatewiki, or is this something that euwiktionary has done or needs to be fixed elsewhere? These bits I remain clueless. — billinghurst sDrewth 08:37, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

I was a bit surprised at first about your question, since I don't have any relation to euwiktionary or related wikis at all, but anyway. So, for each definition in MediaWiki:Sidebar, the software looks if there's an interface message with that name and that message can have translations or not. The default sidebar includes such messages which can indeed be translated at On euwiktionary those messages were indeed replaced by hardcoded text (in 2008), of which I now changed some back to use messages (I hope they don't mind). Feel free to ask if you have more questions :) SPQRobin (talk) 17:15, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks mate. I know that you are not connected with euwikt, though around wiki base-setup, translation issues and the interrelationship I find that you are a font of knowledge and able to assist far better than others with a practical solution with that hint of additional learning. So thanks for this support and tolerance of my sponging on your good nature. If I wrote in shorthand, then it was probably late at night and my best attempt at sounding lucid and capturing the data point. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Always happy to help :) SPQRobin (talk) 18:59, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

translating Wikidata[edit]

Heya Robin :)

You probably know this already but I want to make sure... You signed up on the Wikidata volunteers page saying you're interested in translations. Wikidata is now in a state where it's probably ok to translate. Translations are happening on Let me know if you have any issues/questions. Thanks for helping with that!

Cheers LydiaPintscher (talk) 15:49, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikidata development[edit]


You signed up on the Wikidata volunteers page as someone who's interested in coding. We've finally gotten things figured out and started with a few tasks. More will follow soon. You can find the current bugs/tasks here. If you decide to work on one of them please leave a note in the bug report saying so. Let me know if you have any questions :)

Cheers Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) (talk) 16:42, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Latin-Cyrillic converter[edit]

Hello! Thank you for helping with Uzbek language projects. I've checked the converter on Wikiquote, it works neat. However, there are few problems:

  1. E/e should be rendered as Э/э if it is the first letter of a word, and е in other cases (temirтемир, but eskiэски).
  2. Yoʻ/yoʻ should be converted first as Йў/йў, and only then Yo/yoЁ/ё (yolёл, but yoʻlйўл).

Thanks again! Abdullais4u (talk) 11:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello! SPQRobin. I on has done the translation uz-latn - lotincha, uz-cyrl - kirillcha, on most already several days shows as it is necessary, but on uzbek wikipedia does not show. As this correct? --CoderSI (talk) 03:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

How do you do, SPQRobin! Presently in uzbek wikipedia if we search for anything on cyrillic, transliterated to latin then find this quest. For this you many thanks. Possible not to take into account the word by length of one letter. This needs for cyrillic symbols. CoderSI (talk) 18:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

On new projects[edit]

Thanks for keeping an eye on the header for proposals for closing projects. I explained a bit more to Ningauble, and will try to get the LangCom charter formally approved - once we're done approving the new AffCom charter. Leaving only... ComCom and TransCom, neither of which submit requests or proposals to the Board. SJ talk  07:11, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thank you for talking to Ningauble. Note that the LangCom charter itself doesn't include the CPP, so I assume you mean formally approving the CPP. I was also thinking the Board could formally approve it after SPCom approval, since its charter will make changes to the current CPP. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 15:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Yucatec Maya[edit]

Hi! I asked the community in Yucatan to do another hackathon focused only on the translation of MediaWiki. It will probably be in a month, so I'll be asking for help. Regards, --ProtoplasmaKid (talk) 14:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)


I wonder when is this request Requests for new languages/Wikinews Vietnamese is going to get granted? It has been like 2 years. The reason that not many people care about it is because it has not been officially open as Vietnamese Wikinews yet. It is just a test, it won't get attention from people. I think you need to create the real Vietnamese Wikinews for it to start to develop as the better rate than it is right now. And maybe one day, it can become a big Wikinews version.Trongphu (talk) 22:54, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, we don't look at how long a request has been open, despite all the useless voting on the request page. What matters is how much activity there is on the Incubator test wiki. This is to ensure that it will stay active, because a lot of projects, certainly Wikinews, get inactive afterwards. It may not be as "official" as when having an own wiki, but it is still as open as a real wiki and anyone can and should contribute to it. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 02:38, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

About setting up automatic transliteration service for Azerbaijani Wikipedia[edit]

Regarding to this bug and this comment of yours, I am the developer of the AzConvert tool you mentioned there. Currently I have refactored its code and also ported it to php language (you can see a demo in here). I really want to finish this arab-latin problem on Azerbaijani wikipedia and I volunteer to work on this matter and cooperate for solving this problem. Your colleague (Hershberger) mentioned that a developer native in this language and familiar to the scripts and development is needed. Now how can I help in this matter? Or accurately, how can you help us get over this problem? Regards, موسا (talk)

I rewrite that I don't agree that "The main text on Latinas and Arabic only visually", because arabic part users don't understand latin script, and don't edit in latin articles. They live in South Azerbaijan and used arabic script for writen.)))Secondly, we are willing to open own Wikipedia for many of the issues (20072008 2009 2011 2012 & az:İstifadəçi müzakirəsi:Mehrdad/arxiv02& az:Vikipediya:Səsvermə/Bir viki iki əlifba) Thanks--Ebrahimi-amir (talk) 05:43, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
Yes I agree with you, unlike before that I was against opening new wikipedia, now I support it. But by implementing this system, I want to make our fellow Turkic countrymen able to read the nearly 100000 articles in there. It's like the Kurdish wikipedia, which has two separate Wikipedias for both latic and arabic scripts, while the latic one has automatic convertor to arabic script. Regards, موسا (talk)

Cantonese Wikipedia renaming[edit]

Do you have any updates on this? (Reply on my talk page would be appreciated) Deryck C. 18:24, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Size of Xml::dateMenu field[edit]

With gerrit:23994, you changed the size of the year field from four to seven characters. Was that a conscious decision or an oversight? I don't have an opinion on this matter myself, but just want to make sure. --Tim Landscheidt (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes it was intended, because I had the impression that using type="number" made the inputbox a bit smaller so I thought it would be better to have it a bit too large rather than a bit too small. SPQRobin (talk) 16:51, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. --Tim Landscheidt (talk) 17:50, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Language committee[edit]

You can check،thank .E THP(talk) 18:35, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Simple (language) Wikipedia[edit]

Hi, is the policy for creating a simple version of an already-existing wiki the same as the policy for any other language? If it isn't,what exactly is the policy? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tazerdadog (talk) 23:19, 20 ott 2012

We currently don't have any policy on it, but I think we would approve it if there is community support for it and the language has a kind of standard to define what can be a simple version, like fr:Français fondamental for French. The best way in my opinion to start such a simple version is by creating a dedicated namespace on the "parent" project, e.g. Btw, please ask general questions on e.g. Talk:Langcom. Thanks, SPQRobin (talk) 23:55, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Minangkabau Wikipedia[edit]

Hello. I`m test admin from Minangkabau Wikipedia. You write here that LangCom will reconsider our Wiki approval at December 2010. Could you reconsider it now? SpartacksCompatriot (talk) 11:37, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

The activity now is even lower. It was good around May-September 2011 but since then it was too low for approval. SPQRobin (talk) 23:51, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

To change azb-babel (from en to azb)[edit]

Sorry to write here. Because I think you don't watch page. How can we translate the babel? RX --Arjanizary (talk) 20:01, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I did not see your question on But you can translate Babel via the link "Translate" in the sidebar on, then select group "Babel" and language "South Azerbaijani", so you will get to this page. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 00:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. --Arjanizary (talk) 09:22, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit in request at meta[edit]

Is this edition out of my authority? If yes, I'll undo it. --Arjanizary (talk) 17:23, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

It's correct, so it's fine. (But signing was not really needed.) SPQRobin (talk) 19:07, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Khowar Wikipedia[edit]

Hi Mr. SPQRobin! What should we do to create (Khowar Wikipedia)?. Now I have completed the localization and translated 500 most used messages into Khowar Language. I should maintain the localisation (when new messages are added) and maintain activity at Khowar Language Wikipedia. Now I being a native speaker of Khowar and Test Administrator of this Test Wiki project propose the approval of the Khowar Wikipedia, so it may kindly be created as soon as possible.Thank you very much!--Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 05:55, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi. It's very good that you contribute to the Khowar Wikipedia and that you completed the required localisation. However, you are currently the only contributor, while we need several active contributors before we can approve the creation of So it would be great if you could encourage other Khowar speakers to contribute on Incubator. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 22:58, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

w:pa:File talk:Wiki.png[edit]

FYI (they've replaced your upload with a wrong PNG). Thanks, Nemo 09:00, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Take a look[edit]

Hi, SPQRobin. Could you please take a look at here? By the way, We want to know what should we do now? What are the other requirements that are needed for creation the azb wiki? Thanks in advance. --Arjanizary (talk) 11:03, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi again. I requested in Lang-Com talk page as you said but anyone answered it. --Arjanizary (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Enable WebFonts on the Javanese projects[edit]

Hi Robin, could you take a look at and see what's taking it so long? Buginese Wikipedia has long have it, and we're hoping that the Javanese script could be used in Javanese projects soon. Bennylin 13:09, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I suppose you mean bug 43359? As Reedy says there, it is waiting on and I am not sure what the problem is there. SPQRobin (talk) 13:17, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
Right. I've left a note almost a month ago on that commit, but no response yet. Any idea who should I contact? Bennylin 17:15, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
You can try to contact the i18n team via IRC #mediawiki-i18n, or via Translatewiki (translatewiki:Support or translatewiki:User talk:Siebrand or so). SPQRobin (talk) 02:47, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
Can you help the way you helped bug.wp? Does extension deployment to WMF site has anything to do with translatewiki? (And it's been tested in TW for quite some months and ready for deployment). Bennylin 13:19, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
Well, the issue seems to be whether the font should load on the language code "jv" or "jv-java". The thing is that the Latin script seems to be much more common so in that case it might make sense to only load it for "jv-java", but it's up to you and the i18n team to decide that. SPQRobin (talk) 22:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Fundraising translation feedback[edit]

Hey SPQRobin,

I wanted to ask for your help. As you may be aware we have been running banners on many language wikis. We have a lot of new content this year and I really want to conduct a thorough review of our translations. This is a combination of feedback from the community, readers, donors as well as those with professional translator experience. This will help us ensure the highest quality of translations used in our messaging.

To help us out with this I wonder if you would be willing to give us feedback for Dutch using This Link

Simply follow the simple instructions on that page and if you have any questions feel free to contact me on my talk page.

Many Thanks

Jseddon (WMF) (talk) 18:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Assistance with project closure proposal[edit]

Please take a moment to read Proposals for closing projects/Closure of Norwegian Wikinews 2. I think that the argument has exhausted itself. The project is also now not dead as an English Wikinews contributor is asking people from IRC to translate articles to Norwegian and the topic coverage is now recovering; the existing project community doesn't seem to hinder the progress. There is a claim about machine translations but it's so far a thing I see no detailed evidence or support of. I would appreciate it if you could take a look at the proposal and process it following the usual process, so it stops accepting votes. I am posting this message just to you as you are listed as a LangCom members dealing with project closures. Thanks. --Gryllida 13:49, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Help with the Converter[edit]

Hello Robin.

Could You help Tatar Wikipedia to make the converter (Latin - Cyrillics) as you have helped to make the similar converter to Uzbek Wikipedia. Waiting for your reply.

Best wishes,

--Dobroknig (talk) 23:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Nederlandse vertaling[edit]

(Gekopiëerd van mijn overleg-pagina) Ik kan prima Nederlands verstaan en spreken, ik ben in Houten geboren en ik doe alleen maar mijn best om te helpen. Ik weet niet of je het weet, maar als Google Translate gebruikt wordt dan is de vertaling nog veel slechter. Het spijt me als ik niet professioneel kan vertalen, maar professioneel werk is ook niet gratis. Ajuu en tot ziens. Raykyogrou0 (talk) 23:26, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, pardon. "U". Ik had niet door dat ge een Belg zijt.Raykyogrou0 (talk) 23:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013 update[edit]

Hey Robin, I've noticed - like some others - that the voting procedure isn't as clear as possible. So I've modified Wikimedia Foundation elections 2013. However, this modification, like the one Jcornelius made, haven't been taken in account for the Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2013/en page and its translations. Could you, if you agree with these modifications, import them on the main page? Thanks! The RedBurn (talk) 14:21, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[edit]

Dag SPQRobin, sinds jij de start maakte van de de statuten, dacht ik dat je misschien een kijkje wil gaan nemen, User:MADe bracht ik ook al op de hoogte. Lotje (talk) 14:19, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikimedia LGBT[edit]

Thanks for signing up as a participant of Wikimedia LGBT. If you happen to have some time to assist with page translations for the project, any assistance would be much appreciated! --Another Believer (talk) 17:17, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

luri lrc verification to eligiblity[edit]

Hello please see luri lrc incubator can it be verified to eligiblity position? so thanks lrc lori (talk) 17:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

English/Dutch translations[edit]

Dear SPQRobin, I am contacting you to introduce myself. My name is Jessica Robell and I have recently joined the Wikimedia Foundation as a part of the fundraising team. My work will be focused to a large extent around translations. I am very interested in finding engaged Wikipedians, such as yourself, who would be interested in contributing with their time to translate shorter messages from English to Dutch. We have for example recently put up a 'Thank you letter' from the Wikimedia Foundation's ED Sue Gardner for translation, using the translation extension. You can find the letter here: I would be most grateful to get your help to translate/proofread this letter in order to develop a quality translation in Dutch. Furthermore, in addition to using the translation extension, my aim is to develop a few personal contacts to whom I can reach out with potential questions regarding a particular word choice etc. As an engaged Wikipedia translator, I would be very interested in hearing your view on this.

Thank you very much for your support. I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind regards,

Jessica Robell Global Fundraising Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

Jrobell (talk) 10:21, 31 December 2013 (UTC)jrobell

Punctuation should be reviewed. Lotje (talk) 09:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)


Hello Robin! How have you been? I have a question. I've noticed that the babel template that displays someone's knowledge of Uzbek ({{#babel:uz-N}}) contains mistakes. Specifically, the word "foydalanuvchi" (user) is written wrong. Also, a straight apostrophe is used instead of an okina-like symbol. Strangely, everything is correct in this template. How can I correct these mistakes? Nataev (talk) 11:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello again! billinghurst sDrewth helped me out on this. Thank you anyway! Nataev (talk) 05:27, 17 February 2014 (UTC)


Hello again! The Uzbek Latin-to-Cyrillic converter has been really useful for all of us. But sometimes we observe small glitches while using the converter. One problem has to do with the way the Latin letter E is rendered.

The Latin letter E/e should be rendered as:

  • Э/э (a) if it is the first letter of a word and (b) if it is written right after a vowel; for example, eski should be rendered as эски (case a) and duet should be rendered as дуэт (case b).
  • е in other cases; for example, temir should be rendered as темир.

Can this be corrected? Or would it be too difficult? It looks Abdullais4u (talk) has already asked for your help on this. Maybe you were too busy to take a loot at this issue back then. We'd be really happy if you could help us solve this problem. Thanks! Nataev (talk) 08:49, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry for my late or lacking replies :-) It seems to be working correctly when it's the first letter of a word, right? So it's just wrong when it's written right after a vowel. That can be more or less easily fixed by converting '[vowel]e' into '[vowel]э', which supersedes converting e to e. It may get tricky for vowels that already have such rules, e.g. 'yo' => 'ё'. Do you have certain vowels it mostly occurs, such as 'ue' => 'уэ'? Or is it all vowels? Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 04:07, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
All vowels: a, o, u, i, e and other symbols: ", ', -, +, @, ... and etc. Э does not show in the beginning of the paragraphs and then other characters --Xusinboy Bekchanov (talk) 11:48, 4 March 2014 (UTC).
Easy way: can be replaced after consonants: "b", "v", "g", "d", "j", "z", "y", "k", "l", "m", "n", "p", "r", "s", "t", "f", "x", "c", "w", "q", "ʻ", "‘", "h" to "е", else to "э" --Xusinboy Bekchanov (talk) 12:02, 4 March 2014 (UTC).
That's a good idea, I have submitted a changeset, so it should be working correctly on the Uzbek Wikipedia in ca. one or two weeks, depending on the review. SPQRobin (talk) 01:11, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
113 if( $toVariant == 'uz-cyrl' ) {
114 $text = str_replace( 'ye', 'е', $text );
115 $text = str_replace( 'Ye', 'Е', $text );
116 $text = str_replace( 'YE', 'Е', $text );
117 $text = preg_replace( '/([BVGDJCYKLMNPRSTFXCWQʻ‘H])E/u', '$1Е', $text );
118 $text = preg_replace( '/([bvgdjzyklmnprstfxcwqʻ‘h])e/ui', '$1е', $text );
119 }
Here "Z" is not present --Xusinboy Bekchanov (talk) 02:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC).
Thank you very much for responding, Robin! Great to hear that you've already submitted a changeset. "It seems to be working correctly when it's the first letter of a word, right?" yes, it is! I look forward to seeing the latest changes take effect. Nataev talk 05:16, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem :) @Xusinboy: Thanks for noticing the error, I fixed it. SPQRobin (talk) 12:53, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! --Xusinboy Bekchanov (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2014 (UTC).
The change has been merged meanwhile, it will take effect on the Uzbek WP on 20 March probably. SPQRobin (talk) 17:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

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Congrats, SPQRobin. PiRSquared17 (talk) 01:13, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[edit]

Dag SPQRobin, zopas voegde ik enkele voorbeelden toe omdat, zoals blijkt, er enige onduidelijkheid bestaat ivm de initiële h in het vls. Je advies zou ik zeer naar waarde weten te schatten. Bedankt. Lotje (talk) 19:07, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Dag Lotje, ik ben geen West-Vlaming en ben niet actief op de West-Vlaamse Wikipedia (heb al soms moeite om het te verstaan :p), dus ik denk dat ik helaas niet veel kan helpen. Groeten, SPQRobin (talk) 01:08, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Multilingual portal search[edit]

Hi, I remember that at some point you worked on the multilingual search for project portals (but perhaps it was removed). The closest bug report I found is bugzilla:24767 (context). --Nemo 07:20, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for notifying me. I worked on adding a search box to search for a wiki, i.e. to facilitate finding a wiki or starting one in a certain language. It still is/was on my todo list to work further on that. Bug 24767 is rather about searching content. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 11:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Translate some names for hundreds software projects including MediaWiki[edit]

Hello, I'm writing you because you subscribed to a Language support team. As you know, Wikimedia projects exist in almost 300 languages; supporting them all is a big effort so we partner with other organisations. One small but visible thing we miss is that many interwiki links in sidebar (among others) don't offer a translation of the language name when hovered. We're now able to translate 100 more language names in your language.

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Disabling upload for new wikis[edit]

Hello, is this old proposal of yours something the LangCom could be interested in making part of the new wiki creation process? Could be a patch to the addwiki script or something. --Nemo 12:24, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Current local uploads are enabled by default. My goal is/was to have it disabled by default, for which the discussion should ideally be revived (Local uploads policy, Requests for comment/Disable local uploads on smaller wikis, ...). What I already changed quite some time ago in the wiki creation process is that we ask the community of a new wiki whether they actually want to have it enabled, rather than assume it and have it enabled by default. So each bug includes a "Enable uploads: yes/no". SPQRobin (talk) 13:19, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I guess that works, with current policy. I'm looking into reviving Local uploads policy after getting some insight on which wikis are actually using local uploads and how. --Nemo 13:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
Great! This is something that should really get done. I'll try to follow it up. SPQRobin (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I linked your tool from my list, but I just found out I can't use it because in some cases it's not complete, for instance ar.n has the message but empty and ar.wikt is not in the tool at all (right now). --Nemo 12:34, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

About ar.wikt: I filtered out the databases that don't have "wiki", but obviously that also filters out Wiktionaries :-S Changed it now to "wik". About e.g. having an empty message will have the same behavior as not having the message, so it is indeed affected as my tool says. SPQRobin (talk) 19:49, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

Latin/Cyrillic Converter (Again!)[edit]

Hello Robin! How are you these days? For some reason the Latin/Cyrillic converter on the Uzbek Wikipedia has stopped properly converting the names of buttons and TOCs. We didn't use to have this problem before. Take a look at this page for example. As you can see, the converter is either simply displaying English words (Read, Edit, etc.) or converting into Latin English words, not Uzbek words (Contents > "Cонтенц"). Do you have any idea why we're experiencing this problem? Nataev talk 10:15, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Hi Nodir! I actually caused this problem apparently, by fixing another bug. I added missing variantname messages. The language converter works in a really strange way. It would be fixed again by adding fallbacks, but Siebrand wants to move the uz messages to uz-latn, which requires some work. In any case, I'm certainly aware of it and it's on my todo list. See the relevant bugs 42420 and 42397. SPQRobin (talk) 12:52, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello again! Thank you very much for responding! I took a look at the bugs but honestly they don't make much sense to me. :D I guess we will just wait. Let me know if I can be of any help. Nataev talk 08:59, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


Poke me on IRC when you're about? Reedy (talk) 13:08, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


hello there! you have created MediaWiki:Licenses page on wmua:, but we still do not have license options, so this page is to be created after we have prepared everything. thank you --アンタナナ 17:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Code lookup tool on toolserver references a non-existent message group[edit]

The Code lookup tool links to the "Most used core messages" group on TranslateWiki, which appears not to exist anymore...

(That tool is yours, right? Sorry if I got that wrong.) --Yair rand (talk) 14:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, it's my tool. Thanks for informing me! However, it's a bigger problem since that group must exist because it is necessary for the language proposal policy. SPQRobin (talk) 14:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Maithili Wikipedia[edit]

Dear SPQRobin, the Maithili Wikipedia project, although still in Incubator, has reached the strength of about 450 pages. Could you provide guidelines about getting it out as a full fledged Wiki - possibly --Muzammil (talk) 18:51, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

The request page says that it has been verified, but I don't find anything in the langcom archives about a content verification, so that still has to be done. It would also be better to have more active editors. Regards, SPQRobin (talk) 14:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Local upload configuration[edit]

Could you please add "wikimania2015wiki", thx. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 11:22, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

My tool depends on the labs database, so that is not up to date for some reason. The wiki exists since July already... SPQRobin (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

luri lrc wikipedia[edit]

luri lrc wikiincubator had been active for 15 months last and it has 3010 articles and 5 or six active useres but it isn't making yet but farsi wikivoyage an mahathili wikiincubator was made please help us to make this wiki so thanks best wisheslrc lori (talk) 13:42, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

About Ireland's adoption laws[edit]

Found these links, looks like joint may be on the cards

Feedback needed from LangCom[edit]

Dear member of the Language Committee, can you please try to answer some of the messages on Talk:Language committee (and its archive)? Many people are asking for updates and indications about their requests, but they are almost never getting an answer of any kind. Candalua (talk) 12:29, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

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